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Religion & Spirituality - 19 March 2007

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Why do so many in this forum act like unevolved cavemen?
Seriously, constantly insulting each other and reporting answers as violations just beacuse someone has a different ideology.
ARE WE JUST CAVEMEN WITH ELECTRONIC CLUBS?

2007-03-19 10:45:38 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous

I just recently saw the movie The DaVinci Code and was amazed at the outcome (I never knew this before).....which brings up a good question. Who feels Jesus was human and why? Who feels he was spiritual only?

2007-03-19 10:43:54 · 47 answers · asked by kelliandjay 3

Devils and Satan are believed to be playing around cemetery in nights and on specific days of the week. I lived in a church mansion over-looking the cemetery. I did not find a single one there. If we attribute evil qualities to draw them I find many around me and I too am no exception. On human form they represent exploiters, faith merchants, Robed Judas Iscariots who betray their faith and loyalty for returns in gold standards, pimps who are procurers of ‘poverty objects’ for pleasure, violators of human dignity and so many others. A Commercial Evangelist in his TV programme presents along with him the Satan in caricature - two horns, jet-black complexion and a heavenly pointed tail - playing around in joy. He mentions the devil in abusive and offensive adjectives and blames him for causing all human miseries including sowing of diseases that make them to pray for cure – of course for good returns. I am amused and confused! Could you enlighten me please? lileeann33

2007-03-19 10:42:38 · 15 answers · asked by Nimit 2

i saw the passion and mel gibson made it soung like jews killed jesus.

2007-03-19 10:38:23 · 4 answers · asked by Anonymous

Yesterday I posted a question stating that I believe the Bible and think that there is no Hell-like afterlife for those that choose not to walk in the ways our Creator intended. I wanted to see what people said to me.

Besides the people that quoted verses from the Bible that I have already looked at and determined are not actually talking about Hell, there were people that said some things that concerned me about the reason people believe in Hell.

Several people stated that they felt that IF there was NO Hell that there was no justice. That evil people, aka Hilter, would not have to suffer for the terrible things he did, and yet in the same breath they would say things like Peace and Love, or "let Jesus into my heart" without explaining what that even means, or the that from my view the need to have others suffer is some how the same thing as Peace and Love.

It is my personal view that the state of other peoples eternal lives is their's and I have no right to want them to suffer.

2007-03-19 10:37:43 · 25 answers · asked by Zaarix 2

why is it that America was screaming bloody murder about the Taliban regiem
for subjugating women, and being too extreme, and basing legislation on some ancient holy book.

doesnt George Bush do all of that?

2007-03-19 10:37:25 · 5 answers · asked by philosophizer 2

Or Alex shaving his killer 'stache?

2007-03-19 10:35:28 · 16 answers · asked by hot carl sagan: ninja for hire 5

I guess by creationist guidelines, mathematics is obviously false and we must discard it!

Look at that, it is even worse than evolution:
* P versus NP
* The Hodge conjecture
* The Riemann hypothesis
* Yang-Mills existence and mass gap
* Navier-Stokes existence and smoothness
* The Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer conjecture

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsolved_problems_in_mathematics

Well, back to saying π equals three, like the good book states.

2007-03-19 10:33:07 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous

Then how come we dont have any real evidence of a missing link?

All the "possible links" have been proven hoaxes.

And further more, why do you always dodge a legitimate question?

Why arent there monkeys that are still evolving?

If we evovled from monkeys the change should be eventual and there should be sometype of missing ling alive, not just upright walking hairless people and hairy hunched over apes.

But our foot, we have a big toe on the top of our foot. Where ever youre at just take a look at your foot. The big toe on us is FAT!

The big toe on a monkey is like a thumb, so right now do a comparison with your hand and your foot.

There is no ape that shows a gradual change where the bottom thumb gradually becomes a big toe, henceforth a human.

Please explain this along with why this question is always dodged?

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/knee-joint.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/a_piltdown.html

2007-03-19 10:32:59 · 23 answers · asked by Indio 4

I am Catholic.
I'm not anti-christ,
Christ is all.
But I'm scared of touching the bible, like if i touch it the wrong way it will be a sin. Please help.

I've never read the bible can someone tell me the proper way? and when the right time is?

Sorry for the stupid question but i want to learn.

2007-03-19 10:32:49 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous

Acceptance of Islam doesn't involve blind belief and mysterious dogmas. God's existence and Islam's truth – Proven logically!


Truth Revealed
A Professor walks in the class and asks, "Has any one of you seen God? Has any one of you touched God? Therefore God doesn't exist".
A Student stands up and addresses the class, "Has any one of you seen Professor's brain? Has any one of you touched Professor's brain? Therefore..."

The universe exists. We are here. The birds sing, the wind blows, the stars shine. Why do things exist, instead of nothing? Is the universe eternal or was it created by God? If it was created by God, then is it One God or many Gods ? Of the hundreds of religions, which one is true? These are questions raised since antiquity.
Can we arrive at definite answers? And after arriving at the 'truth', are we brave enough to accept and follow it? Let the quest for truth begins...

For the paragraphs below, follow the relevant segment in the flow chart to the accompanying this article

Is the Universe Infinitely Old?
To answer this question, let's see if the concept of actual infinity itself is true.

Self-Evident Assumptions
1) Impossible for anything to possess two contradictory attributes simultaneously.
2) When a body is added to one of the two equal bodies, the one receiving the addition becomes greater than it was before, hence the greater of the two bodies.[1]

Now If...
a = infinity and
b = infinity + 1 = infinity. 'b' should be bigger than "a", see assumption #2
Therefore we have two infinities !, one is bigger than the other; 'b' is both equal to 'a' and simultaneously bigger than 'a', Which is absurd. Therefore, actual infinity doesn't exist. See assumption # 1. Also... What is infinity minus 1, or plus one, or infinity minus infinity. Thus, the concept of infinity leads to all kinds of absurdities.

Conclusion
Therefore actual infinity doesn't exist, see # 1. It is impossible to continue subtracting numbers (Or segments of time) to reach negative 'infinite', and likewise it is impossible to add up numbers (or segments of time) to reach positive 'infinite' future.

Aristotle states: "Though we can imagine infinite, it is impossible for it to actually exists"[2]

David Hilbert, the greatest mathematician of this century likewise states, "The infinite is nowhere to be found in reality. It neither exist in nature nor provide a legitimate basis for rational thought...the role that remains for the infinite to play is solely that of an idea..." [3]

Scientific Confirmation of Universes' Beginning
Big Bang: Edwin Hubble's discovery in 1929 of the red shift in light from distant galaxies implies that the universe is expanding. 'If we trace this expansion back in time, the universe becomes an infinitely dense point. An infinite density is synonymous with 'nothing'. Cambridge astronomer Fred Hoyle points out, 'the Big Bang theory requires the creation of matter from nothing'.[4]

Second Law of Thermodynamics: 'Processes taking place in a closed system always tend to move towards a state of equilibrium (entropy)'. The universe is a gigantic closed system (since it is everything that there is, and no energy is being fed into it from outside). Therefore, this Law implies that given enough time, the universe will reach a state of thermodynamic equilibrium, known as "heat death" of the universe.[5]

Since the universe is not now in a state of heat death, it means it is not infinitely old.

Therefore the universe had a beginning (it is 'temporal').

Who created the universe?
Self-Evident Assumptions
1) Everything that begins to exist has a cause of its existence.[6]
2) Out of nothing comes anything.
3) Only an existing entity can cause a change or produce something.
4) Infinite succession of events doesn't exist, because actual infinity doesn't exist in reality.

Conclusions
a) Can it be by no one: Impossible. See assumption # 2
b) Can it be itself: impossible. See #3
c) Can it be another temporal entity: yes, but who then created this Second temporal entity; you can take this chain of causes back to infinity. But that's not possible, see #4. Therefore, you reach an 'entity' that doesn't need anyone to push it into existence. An entity that created the universe and itself was uncaused. We call this entity "Necessary to exist".
d) Can it be by a 'Necessary to exist': Yes, see the above point.

Attributes of this 'Necessary to exist'...
1) Creator
2) Eternal
3) Independent

We will add more attributes later.

This 'Necessary to Exist' is God!

How many Gods?
Many, 3 in 1 (Trinity), or Only One

Self-evident Assumptions
1) If 'x' has all the properties as 'y', then 'x' is the same entity as 'y' - The principle of Indiscernibility of Identities.[7]
2) For two items to have separate entities, they have to be different in at least one property.
3) Impossible for two contradictory attributes to exist in an entity, simultaneously.
4) A physical body is dependent on the space it is occupying. No space = no physical body.
5) For an entity to change in form, it has to be made of parts. The parts have to rearrange to assume this new form.
6) Anything that is made of parts needs someone to assemble the parts; therefore dependent on someone outside.
7) If made of parts, then it was not in the present form before. The old unassembled form disappeared and the new assembled form now exists, hence its only 'Temporal'.
8) Removing a portion from an entity makes that entity less whole; therefore not perfect (anymore).
9) If someone produces an entity, it means that this entity is not independent.

Conclusions
a) If there are many gods, then they each have to be different from one another in at least one attribute. See # 1. If they are different in attributes, then some lack the attributes the others have. Therefore, some of these gods are missing in least one attribute. Therefore they are not perfect. See # 8. Therefore, they can't be Gods. It is impossible for an all perfect being to be more than One.
b) God does not assume human (or any physical) form. See #4. Therefore, Incarnation of God is impossible.
c) Change of form means composed of parts. Therefore, it is not independent See #6.Therefore God is not made of parts.
d) An entity can't be both dependent and independent simultaneously. see #3. It is Impossible for anyone to be both 100% human (dependent) and 100% divine (independent) simultaneously.
d) God is not begotten. See #9
e) Begetting involves a part of one transferring into other. Therefore God doesn't beget anyone. See #8

Derived Attributes of God
1. Absolutely One
2. Creator
3. Independent, Eternal
4. Formless and Timeless
5. Doesn't come down in physical form
6. Not made of parts
7. Is not begotten
8. Doesn't beget
9. All Powerful
10. All knowing.

Down to Two Religions...
Of the pure monotheistic religions, only two fully recognize the above attributes of God. Judaism and Islam.

Self-Evident Assumptions
1) A Perfect Being doesn't contradict
2) An All-Moral Being doesn't deceive or confuse us.
3) A Perfect Guide, guides us with Clear 'Signs".

Conclusions
a) A true religion must recognize all the above attributes of God
b) Two religions that possess all the above attributes of God can't have contradictions between them. If they contradict, then one or both can't be true. See # 1, and #2
c) A true religion must possess a clear cut distinguishing feature. see #3

Criteria of a Miraculous Feature
1. If this feature (miracle) is produced by God, then none among the creation can match (equal) it.
2. Even the smallest portion of this miracle can't be matched.
3. This miracle should come down to us in an unaltered, pure form.
4. This miracle should be available to us to examine.

Judaism Examined
Miracles related in the Old Testament can't be witnessed by us now, to test or match them.

a) The oldest complete written copy of the old Testament is only from 900 AC (After Christ).[8]
The complete Old Testament hasn't been memorized in successive generations and hasn't reached us in that form.
Therefore doesn't satisfy criteria #3 and #4
b) If the miracles happened in the distant past and those records haven't comedown to us (from the time of the event to our time) in a pure and unaltered form, how can we be certain that they actually happened? Therefore neither the Old Testament or its miracles satisfies the above criteria.

Islam Examined
Islam proclaims the Quran, the revelation given to Prophet Muhammad (P), as that miracle.

A) The complete Quran was memorized since its inception and this method was maintained in successive generations by millions to our present time in an unaltered and pure form. Muslims recite the Quran from memory in their five daily prayers. Satisfies Criteria #3.
B) At least two written copies from initial times are preserved to our day.[9]
Therefore satisfies criteria #3.
C) Quran as revealed in Arabic is available in an unaltered and pure form in our hands for examination. Satisfies Criteria #4
D) God challenges any doubters to produce a book as perfect as the Arabic Quran.[10]
This challenge is open to all, and for all times. Satisfies criteria #1
E) God challenges the unbelievers to match even a single chapter of the Arabic Quran.[11] Satisfies criteria #2

Scientific Miracles in the Quran
Since Quran is the word of our Creator for all humanity, it gives us a hint about how the universe came about and how it is organized.
a) Big Bang: "Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together then We split them apart..." [12] ("We" is the Arabic plural of respect and not the Christian plural of trinity)
b)Expanding Universe: "And the firmament, we constructed with power and skill and verily We are expanding it".[13]



Conclusion
The best gift of God to us is our mind. Using which, we have successfully proven that the universe had a beginning and the cause of it was God. This God is One, Omniscient, Omnipotent, independent, doesn't beget and the rest of the attributes. Furthermore it was proven that out of the maze of hundreds of religions, only Islam fully satisfied all the derived attributes of God and posses a testable unique and unalterable miracle, which is a complete guidebook for all Humankind. Quran, along with the example of Prophet Muhammad (P), provides solutions to problems plaguing the world.

Now we can shun the above truths and continue following our ancestral religions. But then, we have to shun rationale too and be plagued by it for the rest of our lives, and regret it on the Day of Judgment. Or we could accept Islam, the revealed Truth, and preserve our rational.

Welcome to Islam.http://www.iol.ie/~afifi/BICNews/Sabeel/sabeel.htm

2007-03-19 10:30:52 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous

then why the f- are there people suffering in the world!

2007-03-19 10:30:36 · 23 answers · asked by Anonymous

What percent is 3 5 ths?

2007-03-19 10:28:05 · 4 answers · asked by Anonymous

2007-03-19 10:27:55 · 5 answers · asked by Anonymous

I want to do what He tells me, but can't be still enough to know when He is guiding me.

2007-03-19 10:27:43 · 13 answers · asked by blonde4 3

How do you view fundamentals? Surely you cannot blame them personally for how they grew but debates get pretty heated. If you're a determinists, wouldn't you view "oneself as another?" That you are the same as the extremists because we are only products of our environment and heredity?

2007-03-19 10:27:22 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous

2007-03-19 10:25:50 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous

If I went there and preached, and taught them about Jesus and even converted some of them to Christianity, what do you think they would do to me?

2007-03-19 10:23:22 · 20 answers · asked by Kenny 3

to wish that there was something similar to death?? Do you have any concept whatsoever how long that time period would feel like? would you also be able to live with yourselves knowing that millions of decent, law abiding, hard working people were burning in hell simply because they didn't believe in god?

2007-03-19 10:21:59 · 34 answers · asked by Activist 1

"It is difficult to resist the conclusion that 20th century man is trying to abolish himself. Tired of the struggle to be himself, he has created boredom out of his own affluence, impotence out of his own erotomania, and vulnerability out of his own strength. He himself blows the trumpet that brings the walls of his own city crashing down until at last, having educated himself into imbecility, having drugged and polluted himself into stupefaction, he keels over a weary, battered old brontosaurus and becomes extint"---malcolm muggeridge

2007-03-19 10:21:19 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous

Not that I would endorse any such experiment, I just want to know if, theologically, he/she would be eligible for salvation.

2007-03-19 10:15:48 · 20 answers · asked by WWTSD? 5

artifacts of fossilized sea creatures at the top of mount ararrat? some 14000 feet above see level or something like that

2007-03-19 10:15:32 · 19 answers · asked by Pastor Biker 6

why do you put suits in a garment bag and garments in a suit case?

2007-03-19 10:14:40 · 21 answers · asked by philosophizer 2

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