Religion & Spirituality - 4 November 2006

This is a ? directed to those who compromise with it...not only women but pastors (men) who allow such disobedience to the very Word they claim to uphold who is Jesus Christ Himself. It is very evident through a casual search of scripture of It's condemnation of women preachers/teachers. Don't misunderstand me by passing me off as a woman hater. Women certainly have their place and roles as Christian's. But again, why in wilfull disobedience? And by the way, Deborah was a judge, she had a political role. The woman at the well testified, not preached. And Paul was used as God's mouthpiece having the revelation of God and said..II Tim. 3:16 "all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitible for doctrine, for reproof, for instruction in rightousness:" So, the historical reasons of why some people ignore I Cor. 14:34 are not good enough...Why the disobedience?

2006-11-04 21:17:20 · 11 answers · asked by enochbride 1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcomb's_paradox

2006-11-04 21:17:04 · 3 answers · asked by DREAMER 3

I am a born again anointed Christian, Even though I pray to Jesus everyday for the sins i have done and ask to God not to lead me into temptations, but everyday I'm tempted and i sin. What shall I do to overcome the temptations so that I may always have the blessings and favor of God.

2006-11-04 21:16:37 · 6 answers · asked by Vivin 1

Jesus said they will: Jhn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

Jhn 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
The apostle Paul said they will:
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

The apostle John said they will: Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
What say ye?

2006-11-04 21:14:54 · 10 answers · asked by revulayshun 6

Do you think they gain some kind of emotional comort out of this ?

2006-11-04 21:14:52 · 9 answers · asked by Carpe Diem 1

I just asked how did Catholics come up with that image of Him as we see on tv, pictures, and the like, when there isn't any camera that time. Some claimed that when Veronica wiped the face of Jesus, His sweat and blood in the clothe was formed, that's why they had it figure that that was the picutre of Christ. And if that is true, where is the clothe now?

2006-11-04 21:13:23 · 12 answers · asked by water nixie 2

5 years ago I knew a guy. I met him 10 years ago, but we were sort of acouple sort of NOT a couple. I was too young then. I am 23 right now. Before 5 years ago, we had a somewhat sexual relationship. Not a very verbal close one, but more of an understanding. Well, I recently caught up with him again, and we started seeing each other and eventually slept together again. He kept saying things like "no matter who you marry you will always belong to me" but not in that weird creepy way. I also have two children, and he spent an entire day playing with them. He kept holding my 8 month old son, and later told me he wants children in the future. Now, the way we are, and with him being how vague he is, I am confused. Was that at me, or was he saying he wants children just in general in the future? He says that he "cares" for me all of the time, but won't say the L word. I am in the process of a divorce from a man I did not know well and ended up getting broken bones from. Ideas?

2006-11-04 21:07:44 · 6 answers · asked by Anonymous

I'm just curious cause I'm non religous.

2006-11-04 21:06:36 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous

2006-11-04 20:58:39 · 17 answers · asked by flint.hearts 2

2006-11-04 20:58:37 · 6 answers · asked by #15mwu 5

The apostle Paul said He is:
1Cr 15:1 ¶ Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;


1Cr 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.


1Cr 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;


1Cr 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:


1Cr 15:5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:


1Cr 15:6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.


1Cr 15:7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.


1Cr 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

What say ye?

2006-11-04 20:56:00 · 18 answers · asked by revulayshun 6

Stating Trinitarian Ontology

According to orthodox Christianity, although there exists a God as understood by Swinburne, He is tri-personal. In other words, God is three distinct persons (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit) in one substance, and yet He is still one being. To understand this, we can do no better than turn to the Athanasian Creed, where we find the following existential statements:

“[T]he Catholic Faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory Equal, the Majesty Co-Eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost … So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God … there is One Father, not Three Fathers; one Son, not Three Sons; One Holy Ghost, not Three Holy Ghosts … He therefore that will be saved, must thus think of the Trinity.”6

Trying to make sense of the creed can be difficult, and therefore we can follow philosopher Richard Cartwright7 by stating the seven basic propositions of the creed, the belief in which is essential for salvation, for the purposes of analysis.

1. The Father is God.
2. The Son is God.
3. The Holy Spirit is God.
4. The Father is not the Son.
5. The Father is not the Holy Spirit.
6. The Son is not the Holy Spirit.
7. There is exactly one God.
From this point onwards, when I refer to the Christian understanding of God, it is in reference to the Athanasian Creed that my arguments are to be understood.

Can A Tri-Personal Deity Exist?

Answering this question is very much an ontological exploration. We need to distinguish between a priori and a posteriori answers to the question of existence. By a priori answers, I am referring to answers which speak of conceptual possibilities or impossibilities. For example, there is a conceptual possibility that there exists in the world a unicorn. There is nothing in the definition of a unicorn which would immediately render its existence impossible. On the other hand, it is conceptually impossible that there exists in the world a married bachelor, since the notion of a married bachelor is incoherent. We know immediately a priori that such a being could not exist, ever.

By a posteriori answers, I am referring to propositions which we know the truth or falsity of through experience. Thus, although the existence of a unicorn is conceptually possible, most people do not believe that unicorns exist because of the lack of experience they have had, or lack of evidence. However, one would always be open to the evidence, since unicorns could exist. But it would be absurd to seek evidence for the existence of married bachelors, since it is conceptually impossible for such beings to exist.

Here, I am concerned with the definition of the Trinity, propositions (1)-(7) stated above. If any two of these propositions are contradictory, then it would be conceptually impossible for God, in so far as He is understood in orthodox Christian theism, to exist. And therefore, assessing the a posteriori evidence for or against the doctrine of the Trinity (as is often the case with the Biblical data) would be as meaningless as entertaining a married bachelor’s request for divorce.

Let the Father be designated by x, the Son by y, and the Holy Spirit by z. God, as defined by Swinburne, can be designated by G. As Cartwright notes, one way to interpret the creed is to take the verb ‘is’ and understand it to mean ‘is identical with’8, therefore, x = G, y = G, and z = G. But if this is true, then it logically follows (according to Leibniz’s principle of identity, which states: if x is the same object as y then x has exactly the same properties that y has) that x = y, x = z, and y = z. However, the creed will not allow this: (4)-(6). The Father, Son and Holy Sprit are different and distinct from each other.

Another possibility is to construe G as a general term9 to avoid the logical inconsistency. Thus, x is a G, y is a G and z is a G. But surely this would contradict (7), for we are suggesting the existence of three Gods, or tri-theism. Cartwright presents the following syllogism: “every Divine Person is a God; there are at least three Divine Persons; therefore, there at least three Gods”.10 The second premise is supported the principle: if every A is a B then there cannot be fewer B’s than A’s. Cartwright cites the following analogy. If every cat is an animal, there cannot be fewer animals than cats.

It seems we have a dilemma: if x, y and z are identical with G, then we simply have one person, or three names for one person. The heretical position of modalism comes to mind, where the eternal coexistence of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit is denied. But if x, y and z are a G (i.e. belong to a genera), then one has three divine persons, which of course is another heretical position: tri-theism. In the first instance, the contradiction can be removed by altering propositions (4)-(6). In the second, by altering (7). But taken altogether, (1)-(7) portray an inconsistent set. It follows ipso facto that the Christian God, as He is depicted in the Creed, cannot possibly exist.

Implications For Christian Particularism


Orthodox Christian ontology, as depicted in the Athanasian Creed, forms the basis for a number of Christian particulars. And these particulars are contingent upon the truth of the Christian ontology of God. The implications of ontological incoherence of the Trinity are that certain doctrinal particulars simply cannot be true. For example, the divinity of Jesus (the second person of the Trinity took on human form), the incarnation (which involves the second person in the Trinity being completely God and man simultaneously), etc. There seems to be an a priori blockade that prevents these doctrinal particulars from even getting off the ground.

To conclude, the doctrine of the Trinity as presented in the Athanasian Creed depicts an ontologically incoherent model of God. To dissolve the contradictions which arise from analyzing the Creed, one can either reject the plurality of persons and hold that there exists a single person with different names or modes. Alternatively, one can embrace tri-theism. As long as one is committed to neither confounding the persons, nor dividing the substance, as the Creed would have us do, one is holding beliefs about God which are logically inconsistent. And if one is to remain consistent with the philosophical treatment of theism in contemporary philosophy by the likes of Swinburne and Craig, it follows that the doctrine of the Trinity, and its relation to ‘Christian monotheism’ — being profoundly irrational — should be abandoned.

2006-11-04 20:52:24 · 6 answers · asked by Anonymous

2006-11-04 20:52:11 · 18 answers · asked by Keops 2

So-damn Insane, butcher of the innocents, is going to die. Why don't you all plead for his pardon? Since, clearly, none of you believe in absolute evil.

2006-11-04 20:52:10 · 6 answers · asked by seven 1

Any religion - you know, the kind that thank God for the athletic gifts they've been given, or pray for a touchdown, that kind of thing.

2006-11-04 20:48:28 · 4 answers · asked by p_i_turtle_sanders 3

if you knew that your life was ending soon...would you by any chance pray...just incase....?

2006-11-04 20:43:53 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous

2006-11-04 20:41:20 · 9 answers · asked by Carpe Diem 1

not all islam is so extreme surely?

Surely women are allowed to behave like any other human.

surely the muslim cannot hate infedels that much

Can a normal Muslim advise please

2006-11-04 20:36:53 · 27 answers · asked by Anonymous

2006-11-04 20:36:09 · 2 answers · asked by Submission 3

2006-11-04 20:35:20 · 9 answers · asked by DREAMER 3

If you do, do you think this is fair that others can easily express thir beliefs and you can't without fear of repercussions ?

2006-11-04 20:31:01 · 15 answers · asked by Carpe Diem 1

2006-11-04 20:25:54 · 11 answers · asked by techeroflogic 2

Is not about just to throw them away, but are too old and most of then damaged...and not original master works. So how i should proceed with them?

2006-11-04 20:25:28 · 4 answers · asked by marco 1

if so how do we find out what are past life was?

2006-11-04 20:23:34 · 13 answers · asked by silverdiva 1

This is a subject that came up no another forum, and I'm just curious as to what most people think. On the subject of being able to repent (ie, ask and recieve forgiveness from God).

Example senario: A person broke one of the Commandments-they killed someone. Not in defense, or even for revenge-but simply to see 'what it felt like' or 'for fun'. now let us assume this same person is caught, serves their time, is released, but then is diagnosed with something terminal, and they have all of a year ot live. They turn to religion and wish with sincerity forgiveness from god-but they do so as most people would because they do not want to risk a eternity of suffering. Is the person forgiven and allowed in? Also if you could post a verse along with why you have this belief that is easy to follow for those of us not well versed in Christian faiths, that would be excellent and appreciated. Thanks in advance everyone!

2006-11-04 20:23:10 · 12 answers · asked by Drisana R 2

I have seen pious people from all religions have long beards, why?

2006-11-04 20:19:30 · 17 answers · asked by netwalker01 3

If so, what difficulties do you face ?

I am Irish by the way.

2006-11-04 20:17:00 · 4 answers · asked by Carpe Diem 1

2006-11-04 20:13:11 · 10 answers · asked by malou 1

2006-11-04 20:11:36 · 7 answers · asked by Joey_D 3

2006-11-04 20:11:35 · 11 answers · asked by Carpe Diem 1