Politics & Government - 14 August 2007

Evidence Suggests Ron Paul Was Cheated
Ron Paul's fifth place in the Iowa Straw Poll questioned due to voting machine failure, fuzzy figures and conflicts of interest




Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Tuesday, August 14, 2007


A host of curious events at the Iowa Straw Poll at the weekend has raised questions as to whether there was some kind of tampering with the final vote count, with evidence to suggest Ron Paul may have been wrongly placed in fifth position behind Mitt Romney and three second tier candidates.

It was reported by local TV news stations before the event that upwards of 45,000 Republicans would arrive to meet candidates and cast their votes, however this number was dwindled down to between 30,000 and 33,000 according to the Iowa GOP's projected figures.

The number of voters then decreased by another sizable margin to around 26,000 the next day, only for the final figure to drop EVEN FURTHER to 14,302 actual votes cast.

Even if the immediate figures of 45,000 and 33,000 were wrong and the Iowa GOP grossly overestimated the figures, with only 26,000 tickets being sold, this still does not account for the other 12, 000 tickets that suddenly disappeared. One has to ask the question why did 12,000 people buy tickets at $35 each and not vote?

In 1999 the Straw Poll, which was won by George W Bush, attracted 23,685 voters, an incredibly similar figure to the 26,000 tickets sold this year.

As we reported yesterday, it has come to light that the voting procedure was overseen the Story County Auditor's Office, the head of whom happens to also be a member of Mitt Romney's "Leadership Team".

When the electronic voting machines inevitably malfunctioned, many immediately became wary.

According to some reports 4500 ballots had to be re-run and the announcement of the poll results was delayed by over an hour.

Earlier in the week a group of Ron Paul supporters had attempted to block the vote based on concerns over insecurities in the Diebold machines, yet the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals refused to join an injunction against the vote.

It hasn't helped Romney's case that swirling around the blogosphere are rumours that previous to the straw poll he was "joking" out loud that his team were going to "stuff the ballot box".

The plot thickens with further analysis of the figures. A reader to popular website Whatreallyhappened.com writes:

FUZZY MATH #1
So we know from the state Auditor that one ‘problem’ machine contained 500 votes. Assuming most machines contained a similar pattern of use, then they should also contain about the same number of votes. 60 (machines) x 500 = 30,000 votes. That is more than TWICE as many as the official count. Based on a total vote count of 14,301, if all machines were used about equally, then the average number of votes per machine SHOULD have been 238 {14,301 (total votes) / 60 (machines) = 238 votes per machine}. What are the odds that one of the machines that ‘malfunctioned’ and actually gave up an audited vote tally would contain TWICE as many votes as the ‘average’ machine? But it gets worse…

FUZZY MATH #2
State Auditor David Vaudt (who unofficially certified the vote count) said that there were only 2 machines out of the 60 that were inconsistent (paper printout vs. electronic tabulation) and needed to be recounted. Mary Tiffany of the Iowa GOP said that a total of approximately 1500 votes were re-fed into the Diebold machines. Since we know that there were only two machines that were a problem and one of them contained 500 votes, then the second machine must have contained about 1000 ballots, which is more than FOUR TIMES what the ‘average’ machine should contain based on a total vote of 14,301. It seems more likely that there were actually 3 problem machines, and the true average per machine was about 500 votes, which would have resulted in a total vote of about 30,000 which is twice the official total vote count.
Though it was reported that "there were nothing but Ron Paul signs in the crowd" and that his campaign signs lined the highways and streets leading into Ames, Iowa, Paul came in fifth place behind Romney, Huckabee, Brownback and Tancredo.

Some exit polls also suggested that Ron Paul had actually WON the poll outright, before the final result was announced.

The Ames Straw Poll's results are non-binding and have no official effect on the presidential primaries. However, the straw poll is frequently seen as a first test of organizational strength in Iowa by the news media and party insiders. At the very least an investigation should be conducted to determine how significant an effect on the vote the Diebold machine malfunctions had and also why 12,000 tickets were not translated into votes.

2007-08-14 13:32:47 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Elections

What can I legally do to trespassers.

How can I file a police report if the person runs away, but has vandalized my property?

Do I have the right to restrain them (including minors) until the police come?

If they are vandalising my property can they be physically and forcefully removed (including minors).

If a physical altercation occurs, are we in the right?

2007-08-14 13:32:38 · 3 answers · asked by ty 1 in Law & Ethics

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2007-08-14 13:31:29 · 2 answers · asked by B W 1 in Law & Ethics

2007-08-14 13:28:20 · 17 answers · asked by The Apostle 2 in Politics

he lets libby lie for him, he gets caught throwed in jail Bush kisses butt and use the get out of jail free that means we can get away with perjury too. LAWSUIT toward the government for all the ones thats in jail for perjury

anyways, did everyone know that Bush was linked to Osama Bin Laden and Democrats knows that. Him and Osama were really great friends and he was ones responsible for 9/11 even though right now he doesnt care about the "enemies" homeland. All he cares about is trying find a way in Iraq a suppose war that isnt in a effect. Using our men, to go over and have themselves killed without a purpose other then like a Vietnam War.

What makes it funny? Bush was never in the military and dont have no leadership in it, he dropped out from gouing to Vietnam when the real leaders left and "fully" supported this country.

2007-08-14 13:27:54 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics

i know what you are thinking
"i dont remember the dems doing anything for the farmers"
i hear conservative hosts complaining about high corn prices and "blaming" the dems for it
so does this mean farmers should thank the dems???

2007-08-14 13:26:34 · 10 answers · asked by specal k 5 in Politics

For instance, demographically speaking, our states(U.S.) are rich in culture and diversity. Should federal laws always trump those of state laws when it comes down to social/cultural differences among states? For instance, laws that may be deemed suitable for Texas residents is not for those living in New York.

Wouldn't it seem more appropriate for states to carry the burden of legislation and execution of said laws that affect their demograph and not those of another?

2007-08-14 13:24:47 · 6 answers · asked by Glen B 6 in Law & Ethics

for the leader of the country? They do not have the brains... to do the work themselves but they love to critizise those with the backbone to try and lead.

2007-08-14 13:23:40 · 9 answers · asked by Looking ahead 3 in Politics

Do you think it is a good idea to implement a law that employers should allow employees to leave work to vote? The structure of the idea is fairly simple. The employer allows the person to go vote and they must bring proof they voted. The employer can, but not required to, then pay the employee for upto two hours of work and those two hours are a tax credit for the employer.

share your thoughts on this idea, either positive or negative, but please be respectful.

2007-08-14 13:20:01 · 4 answers · asked by shrugger 4 in Law & Ethics

2007-08-14 13:19:45 · 12 answers · asked by trudgala2003 1 in Military

Are we still a government by the people for the people of the people?

2007-08-14 13:18:54 · 9 answers · asked by informatikrn 1 in Government

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I feel left out when there is talk about the war and politics.. i feel like i do not know basic information.. help please

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2007-08-14 13:15:12 · 13 answers · asked by The Guardian 1 in Law Enforcement & Police

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2007-08-14 13:14:05 · 5 answers · asked by hpr_zaza84 1 in Law & Ethics

I just dont see any reasons, as to why we went over to iraq, after congress and the senate except for a couple, signed a bill of war against terrorism, against the country of Afganistan, in which Bin Laden who the President exclaimed was the man behind 9-11-2001.
i can understand that after we deverted to Iraq, to help clean up what Dad Bush 41 wanted Sadom out, Sadom met hell in 2005, its after his capture i dont see why we are still In the country of iraq at war, other than to load the pockets of the Rich, greedy, and Powerful country's, also how much is our Hog money payouts, to the UK, And all the others who we had to buy to stay on with us to go fight iraq? lets leave in Surges as we came, and devert back to the war we really went at with Afganistan. Should be much more easier if we leave quickly, if al those taliban are over in Iraq, then whose watching their backs in Afganistan, Maybe its time for Rove to slide out, Bush and Chaney try to look smart, Devert out!

2007-08-14 13:12:36 · 8 answers · asked by kjokergo11 3 in Other - Politics & Government

I just dont see any reasons, as to why we went over to iraq, after congress and the senate except for a couple, signed a bill of war against terrorism, against the country of Afganistan, in which Bin Laden who the President exclaimed was the man behind 9-11-2001.
i can understand that after we deverted to Iraq, to help clean up what Dad Bush 41 wanted Sadom out, Sadom met hell in 2005, its after his capture i dont see why we are still In the country of iraq at war, other than to load the pockets of the Rich, greedy, and Powerful country's, also how much is our Hog money payouts, to the UK, And all the others who we had to buy to stay on with us to go fight iraq? lets leave in Surges as we came, and devert back to the war we really went at with Afganistan. Should be much more easier if we leave quickly, if al those taliban are over in Iraq, then whose watching their backs in Afganistan, Maybe its time for Rove to slide out, Bush and Chaney try to look smart, Devert out!

2007-08-14 13:12:10 · 6 answers · asked by kjokergo11 3 in Military

I just dont see any reasons, as to why we went over to iraq, after congress and the senate except for a couple, signed a bill of war against terrorism, against the country of Afganistan, in which Bin Laden who the President exclaimed was the man behind 9-11-2001.
i can understand that after we deverted to Iraq, to help clean up what Dad Bush 41 wanted Sadom out, Sadom met hell in 2005, its after his capture i dont see why we are still In the country of iraq at war, other than to load the pockets of the Rich, greedy, and Powerful country's, also how much is our Hog money payouts, to the UK, And all the others who we had to buy to stay on with us to go fight iraq? lets leave in Surges as we came, and devert back to the war we really went at with Afganistan. Should be much more easier if we leave quickly, if al those taliban are over in Iraq, then whose watching their backs in Afganistan, Maybe its time for Rove to slide out, Bush and Chaney try to look smart, Devert out!

2007-08-14 13:11:25 · 3 answers · asked by kjokergo11 3 in Government

Would people be able to survive indefinitely with radiation and nuclear winter at other places not directly hit?

2007-08-14 13:11:00 · 11 answers · asked by Peter N 1 in Military

They make me want to vomit. Osama's the worste closely followed by Chelsea's momma then Obama takes third.

2007-08-14 13:10:35 · 6 answers · asked by Anonymous in Government

She's like one of those moms who overprotects their son. You know the type. He holds onto her skirt while she gives a lecture to the bullies that were picking on him. It seems like she does all the talking for him while he just pampers himself in the background. Like those effeminate kids on the bus who smelled like diapers and kept to themselves. And you felt sorry for them, until they ran off the bus and their mommy got on the bus and started yelling at everyone. Then when she got off and the bus drove away everyone burst out laughing so hard. Even the bus driver. Because the kid was such a wimp and his mother only made it worse. The poor kid. Now they're REALLY gonna pick on him!

That's what John Edwards seems like. His wife is always overly vocal and responsive to the other candidates, and he just sits there quiet in the background.

And he wants to be PRESIDENT?

SHE should run. It's clear she has a set of cajones and clearly wears the pants in their family.

2007-08-14 13:10:12 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Other - Politics & Government

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2007-08-14 13:06:44 · 19 answers · asked by The Apostle 2 in Politics

This was the incident happened last weekend. My wife and I had an argument followed by physical assaults (couple of slaps on the back). She, out of anger, called 000 and said she is being hit. Police came after a while and arrested me and put a charge "Common Assault-T2". They issues ex-parte AVO against me.



Well, we are married for over 4 years now with one child about 2 years. We are happy family with usual arguments at times but it has never went this far. My wife now regrets of her making a call on 000, which she did in anger and impatience.



Now, can someone from you guide me what could happen in the court in 2 weeks time? We are single income family (I am earning member) and have mortgage upon us. We can't really tolerate any big penalties or jail term at all. If that happens, it would be disaster and would destroy the family and especially 2 year old kid's life.



How can we survive this? I heard someone saying that if you are sorry about this,n

2007-08-14 13:05:34 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Law Enforcement & Police

I'm turning 18 soon and with the War in Iraq, should i fear being sent over against my will by the draft? I know Nixon outlawed it but is there any chance that it could come back? I'm actually scared because well, knowing this White House, i wouldn't be surprised if they tried doing the draft again...

2007-08-14 13:04:11 · 9 answers · asked by Anonymous in Military

i want to know if its illegal to shoot any type of gun in my yard. I live in King County, WA and i'm outside of the city limits if that matters.

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2007-08-14 13:04:03 · 20 answers · asked by ? 2 in Law & Ethics

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2007-08-14 13:01:54 · 37 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics

I'm not one to bash people with opposing political beliefs, but I was thinking about something and realize the Republicans seem to contradict themselves on one of their core values. In general, less government is supposed to be a core value of Republicans. But at the same time they want the government to restrict/prohibit abortion and gay rights. They want the government to allow the teaching of ID in science classes. They want the government to take harsher action on illegal immigration.

Do the Republicans only believe in less government when it comes to taxes and gun laws. Or is there is serious division between different factions of the Republican party. If the latter is the case, how long can the Republican party exist as it is today? Wouldn't these differences lead to the party fracturing into two distinct parties?

2007-08-14 12:58:55 · 16 answers · asked by Justin H 7 in Politics

I am an American and I find that a majority of the America's mainstream media is stupid, untrue and mean. Why do these things appeal to the American public?
Ann Coulter's book "Godless: the church of Liberalism" untrue,bullying and mean spirited
American T.V: mostly consisting of pointless "reality" shows containing lots of "drama" and the rest are acted shows containing lots of "drama" or shows like "Maury" "Jerry Springer" or "Dr. Phil" Not to mention the stupid commercials.
American news: in one hour contains about 5 minutes of news and 55 minutes of mostly biased, bashing commentary or two people yelling and interrupting one another
American talk radio: alot of obnoxious, mean, biased, bashing yelling
American sports radio: more obnoxious yelling
Why are these things so popular in America?

2007-08-14 12:57:31 · 15 answers · asked by Lindsey G 5 in Politics

What is required to work as a JAG attorney? I am starting law school in 6 days :)
I am just wondering what is requried to become a JAG Attorney? How long do u have to in the military for etc? What do you consider the pros and cons of it? Thanks for your thoughts

2007-08-14 12:55:41 · 3 answers · asked by Anonymous in Military