If God Created the Universe and all Life then keeping that line of thought?

Question

That means god created satan,so that means god is the true architect of pure evil, or does that mean god made a mistake and is not perfect and that he sent his son not to die for our sins but his mistake. . . why do i feel this is all illogical and nonesense

ok arewethereyet- isn't god the creator,didn't he make and place that tree of knowledge there,it sounds like a twisted game to me,like walking into a kindergarten,placing candy there and before walking aay telling the kids they can't eat it. . .an if god was the creator,don't you think he could be more creative and create free will without the evil twist???

So Paolo you are saying evil is perfection,so those who are evil are carrying out gods plan......... so evil is essential......salvation is dependant on evil........so why are christians so down on non believers....we are carrying ouy gods word and paving your way to your heaven,you should be thanking us not scorning us?

To Barney >Thank you for your kind words,you yourself are a hypocritical, heartless excuse of a human.If you claim to be christian and a studying of the bible makes me a name calling self righteous twat,then it is not for me, i sugest as well as your endless studies of the bible you embark upon a study of the english dictionary, i suggest you start with the word moron, before you loosely throw it around. Still no thumbs down from me as unlike some people i believe everyone has right to opinion, even people like you who use words as venom. . . peace to you

To Barney >Thank you for your kind words,you yourself are a hypocritical, heartless excuse of a human.If you claim to be christian and a studying of the bible makes me a name calling self righteous twat,then it is not for me, i sugest as well as your endless studies of the bible you embark upon a study of the english dictionary, i suggest you start with the word moron, before you loosely throw it around. Still no thumbs down from me as unlike some people i believe everyone has right to opinion, even people like you who use words as venom. . . peace to you

Answer 1

There can be no day without night, no light without dark, no good without evil. A huge part of perfection is in the contrast!


EDIT: "I'm not down on you, Disco D. - I don't scorn you either - I want to see you on the other side. I know the secret to eternal life and I want to share it with you! It would really be quite selfish of me to keep it to myself, now wouldn't it?!?"

Answer 2

Evil existed before angels were created as inhabitants of heaven.

Gen.3:22;

Job 38:4-7,30-32; Angels see ages old earth [ Gen.1:1,2]; prepared ages Gen.1:3-25; for intended inhabitant. Gen.3:1-5; Gen.3:22; Satan Rev.12:9; and 1/3 angels are partakers in evil, the one we know as Christ Jesus is not,and the rest of the angels are not. Man even in the imperfections of sin and prone to evil Gen.8:21; many of humankind try to be meek, just and of law and order, ever conscious of God and Christ.

There are vast numbers of heaven Rev.5:11; inhabitants or angels, Job 38:
4-7; called morning stars and sons of God, Satan was perfect Eze.28:13-15;
now a rebel and 1 / 3 of them are rebels [ God created them, then, there is the possiblility that they will be rebels ], Rev. 12:7-12; they did have rights to heaven [ Job 2:1,2 ]; until the time of the end, Eden to [ how much time here? ]as 6073 has passed, and to be is Rev.20:1-6; an end of Satan's power as god of this world [ 2Cor.4:3,4 ]; that ends, so they have a short time after
cast down before the second coming of Jesus. The Lord and savior of
the world.

So it is with man, they multiply by the billions, and who knows how many are rebels against God. 1Cor.15:22-28,51-53; John 5:26-29; Heb.9:27;
ALL ARE GIVEN EVERY OPPORTUNITY, ONLY THOSE LIKE SATAN DO NOT MAKE IT AND HAVE SELF TO BLAME.

Answer 3

Try as you might to rationalize your own illegitimate awareness of all things, you're own post should dictate to you that you know nothing of what you speak about. In short and simple truth you're a babbling moron. You pretend to posses such unblemished thought and wisdom but you can't even construct a simple sentence.

B*tching and complaining about how you are too lazy to study Gods word and simply throwing jumbled words together doesn't negate you in you're own responsibilities of searching out the truth.

Answer 4

Stretch your mind a teeny bit and consider "free will". Without it, anything He creates is just a thing, a puppet, a marionette.

Angels have free will. For a will to be truly free it MUST have true choice. And that means it MUST have the capacity to choose evil instead of good.

Lucifer freely CHOSE evil when he freely CHOSE to rebel against God's plan for all of creation. Now he lives with the consequences of that choice. As do we all, whatever we choose.

If loving His creation enough to grant it true freedom is a mistake, well then, Vive la erreur!

Answer 5

Basically the defenders will put forward free-will theories to claim that God is not in fault.

But doesn't God also knows that which path (according to their free-will) one will take. Take the story of adam, God must have already known that adam will (without doubt) disobey His command not to eat from the tree of knowledge and knowing place that tree there.

In this sense, the free-will argument is illogical and you're absolutely right about that.

Answer 6

Throw away the first word, keep the next seven, throw away all the rest of your question, and you'll be on the right track. Trying to disprove the existance of God and his plan of salvation is a complete waste of time.

Answer 7

It became illogical when you said "that means".

For one, we don't even know if evil was created specifically for us or has been around for eternity. After all, remember that the Serpent told Eve that she would have the knowledge that God has if she ate of the tree. And what tree was that? The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

Answer 8

God never created Satan. He created the most perfect angel of all, to bring the brightest light for God. He gave that angel, beauty, power and the most important of all, freewill. But that angel, so proud for himself, boast to God, gather some friends .... and revolted against God. That most perfect angel was Lucifer (the Shining One). Lost his place in heaven.... then Lucifer created himself to be Satan.

(read Isaiah 14:12)

remember we are the architect of our own destiny.

Answer 9

Satan was once an angel.He chose to rebel against God.The tree was a test of man's loyalty to God.God created us not to be puppets but individuals.What kind of relationship could man have with God if we were like puppets?

Answer 10

Another thought to show the illogic of it: free will doesn't have to be about choosing between good and evil, or reward and punishment.

The other thing to consider is that Satan's role has evolved through the Bible. In one of the oldest books, Job, he is a angel that is enlightening Job through trial, he is not tempting Job to do evil. By the new testament, he has become a tempter and seeks to have you join in his damnation. "Joining in his damnation" is a rather weird thought in itself.