A question for veg*ns ONLY, omnis need not apply?

Question

Now you can't say I'm being a "preachy vegan" or "morally superior", since i'm only talking to veg*ns.

Has anyone else noticed that, when a question is asked on this forum and receives a good mix of answers from omnis and veg*ns, that the veg*n answers are usually a bit longer, more thoughtful, contain better vocabulary words, make better use of the rules of grammar, and contain less insults and incendiary comments?

I've often noticed after two or three long, well thought out veg*ns answers, there is usually an onmi answer consisting of "EAT MEET ITS GOOD", or something similar.

Why do you think this is?

To Dichotomymom:

I appreciate your response, and it is obvious from past answers that it is not you I'm talking about. I didn't say anything in my question about the substance of the answer (as in, whether they are caustic, inflammatory, etc) just how those answers are written. I'm not implying that meat eaters are dumb or that all meat eaters are trolls. I'm asking this question in all sincerity to find out if anyone else has noticed this phenomenon, and figure out why.

Again, I'll point out this is just an observation, not an indictment of non-veg intelligence.

Answer 1

I think that Veg*n's in general are more intelligent than the general population. It's not that being Veg*n makes one more intelligent, it's just that intelligent people are more ,likely to become veg*n. In order to become Veg*n one must take inventory of themselves, take a good look at what is right and wrong, and be commited enough to take the steps necessary to right what they believe to be wrong in their lives.

And Veg*n's tend to be compassionate people who don't want to cause unecessary suffering...and don't really get a kick out of irritating people by posting ridiculous questions/answers as trolls.

Answer 2

Why? Because this is a V&V forum. Nothing an omni says here will really have too much of an impact, because that's not what the real V&Vs are looking for. Most omnis realize this, so they don't even try, they just spout something stupid and leave. Not that all omnis act this way... there are even a few omnis that post regularly on the V&V forum and *gasp* are nice. Then you also have trolls to deal with, especially ones claiming a flexitarian-vegan lifestyle.

Maybe we should all go into the general food section and keep posting "EET UR VEGGIEZ!" & "CAN OMNIS EAT ANIMAL CRACKERS...WHAT ABOUT SOUR PATCH KIDS?".

I think it's funny that you've already gotten some of the responses you talked about in your post.

As for veg*ns being smarter... I don't know. The last time I took an I.Q. test was a few years ago in High School. I scored 132. Of the veg*ns I know personally, they do seem to be smarter than the average bear, although the smartest person I know is an omni. It does seem like it would be an interesting statistic to track.

Answer 3

Yew are soe rite; mete eeters arr sow stewpidd.

Dear exsft: You have proved that a long answer with better vocabulary words, and better grammar, does not always culminate in a more relevant point. You give the same tired old cliche that vegetarians don't care about people--in spite of your wonderful IQ that you are so proud of.

I work for a government department of mental health providing services for mentally retarded people. Later this week, I am working with a young man who has Schizophrenia so he can get disability benefits; I am doing this on my own time for no pay.

You speak of third world countries, how about my (vegetarian) wife's homeland, India? Her religious leader has a foundation that promotes vegetarianism and a charity hospital (for poor people, not animals). My wife and I also send money to two little girls we don't even know--so they can go to school. My brother in law sponsors a program for the homeless, he is also vegetarian. The mere fact that one believes in vegetarianism does not automatically mean he has no kindness for his fellow human beings.

Arrogate onwards, O preachy meat eating master of pretension.

Answer 4

I'm omnivorous and certainly don't want to unneccessarilly troll this forum for fun but I do believe that y/a is a place for debate and open/closing minds to other perspectives. The only link I see to vegans being more intelligent is that someone who is educated is more likely to be concerned with what they put into their bodies. Vegans are usually politically liberal and most liberals I know are intelligent (just not always rational or able to look at the bigger picture). Eating meat whether it be free range or not, is one way to live and it can be quite enjoyable.......most of the hunters I know are appreciative of the animals sacrifice, the habitat they live in and the fact that they themselves took the life and did not depend on someone else to do it (if that's not an intelligent outlook, I don't know what is) I myself raise chickens for slaughter and am wholly concerned with educating myself and my children about many lifestyles. I don't care for lifestyle judgements ( unless you are hurting someone, I don't care what you do with your time) and believe that many vegans are judgmental. This is where the caustic comments come in place in regards to omnivores......they don't appreciate you telling them something that you don't fully understand to be truth because really, we as humans are infallible and incapable of knowing the real specifics on morality beyond the basics.....don't murder, sleep with relatives, steal, etc....

I know: I wouldn't appreciate having my choices demeaned and I realize there are a lot ofpeople who choose to do so with the intention of pissing off.....it's great that you have strong convictions and we wouldn't be here if we didn't have passionate people leading us!

Answer 5

A long and thought out answer does not mean it is correct or accurate. What I've noticed is that vegans ask a simple one sentence question followed by a two paragraph rant against anything non vegan. Just look at your own question. "Why do vegans post long well thought out answers while others seem to just rant" would have sufficed as your question. But you chose to elaborate further with negative implications, even indirectly referring to the intelligence and education (or lack thereof) of non vegans. Having a "Vegan & Vegetarian" section does not mean it is yours exclusively. This a public forum and you have no right whatsoever to arrogate any portion of it for your own personal use to the exclusion of others. This is also called "Yahoo Answers" not "vegans support group and consensus building forum". You ask a question, people will answer. Do you want honesty or do you just need to see what you want to hear? Your question above is actually more appropriate for the "Soceity and Culture" or the "Social Science" section since it asks a question regarding behaviour not diet. But it seems you want to hear a "beating the drum around the vegan campfire" type of answer rather than an honest one. Since you are a vegan, can you honestly expect another vegan to dispute your observation? As for intelligence, my IQ is 163. I am an omnivore born, raised and by intelliget choice. I have been all over the world and have seen more things than you can possibly imagine. Instead of concerning myself with the welfare of animals, I concern myself with the welfare of people. You may agree or disagree, but a starving 3rd world child is much more important to me than a cow or a chicken. For that child too, the question is not whether to become a vegan or an omni, the question is "what and when will I eat today or tomorrow or the day after that?" Do you have an answer for him? I think a vegan lecture on animal cruelty will not help, what do you think?

Ps. In keeping with your biased perception about short rude and crude answers from omnis, I ask this - Long enough for you?
Pps. "Just an onservation" made with biased eyes is still biased regardless of intent. An insult coached in pleasant terms is still an insult.

Answer 6

I wouldn't go as far as to use the word "mostly" meat, they were also gatherers & they mostly ate whatever they could get their hands on. Supposedly, they were also cannibalistic from time to time as well. Obviously it doesn't apply to neanderthals as they didn't have the luxury of choice. Either way, I find that hunting food for yourself and paying someone to systematically kill animals slaughterhouse-style is hardly comparable. As is pretty much every aspect of Neanderthal life vs. modern life.

Answer 7

Its a good question.

Many of the meat participants in this forum are just trolls. So they are not setting out to provide decent Q or A, they are just setting out to disrupt.

They are doing the meat-eaters reputation a real dis-service but we don't see too many meat-eaters telling them they are wrong.

To them its a game, to me my veggie commitment is lifelong so its important to me, so i try to answer as completely as I can.

EDIT:

I would of thought someone with an IQ of 163 could care for 3rd world children and show concern for the treatment of animals. Why do the 2 have to be exclusive ? I can multi-task, can you ?

In fact, lets be clear here, eating meat consumes far more resources than eating a vegetarian diet. So, if "exsft" is really concerned about children in the 3rd world, why not give up meat and therefore help in increasing the resouces available to solve probelms elsewhere in the world.

I've never met a veggie or vegan who said children in the 3rd world shouldn't eat meat if its thier only food choice, can you show us people who have said that, or is this just another meaty-assumption ?

If the types of cliched answers you quote are all you have to say, i think i prefer the short answers.

Answer 8

People who are passionate about their beliefs are likely to put more thought and effort into it.

Answer 9

I know you said vegans only, but.. I read most of the questions and answers about vegans and I have noticed the same thing. (I just give them the thumbs down like im sure someone is going to do me..)

Answer 10

I think you are seeing people passionate about something and some people just randomly seeing the question.