Will we allow the Bush Administration to rape and pillage Iran?

Question

There are more US citizens in Iraq today than US military ... most are contractors paid with your tax dollars to NOT do what they say they will do (see rebuilding schools in Iraq) ... some are Mercenaries, also paid by your tax dollars to play wild west shoot em up

as the media junket prepares us for an invasion of Iran, a country involved in some type of civil war for the last 1300 years ... will the American people once again cave to 'stay the course' and harsh treatment to those perceived as enemies?

for what its worth ...

well, I also assumed we wouldn't be stupid enough to give Bush the power we have, so he could invade Iraq ... my question is, if he decides he wants to, can we stop him?

Jimmy J ~ more than happy to send you the facts on what American contractors have done (or more importantly have not done) and still been paid for in Iraq

if not, apathy is widely accepted these days ... to each his own

you made me think about offending service men who have served in Iraq, and done good things for other Americans and innocent Iraqis

that was not at all my intent ... I'm clearly pointing the finger at the men making the decisions in our government, and the capitalist endeavors that motivate them in this war ... and the contractors getting paid for work not completed ... I guess I'm naive in thinking that most contractors don't get paid until the work is complete, but thats just the norm in the private sector I guess

I don't want to assume that we will invade, I'm asking if Bush decides to invade would we be able to stop him ... and I'm expressing some anger and frustration (all apologies:)

I'm in favor of our mission in Afghanistan, and we were very successful there (well, short of not getting bin laden) ... but none the less, we made smart decisions, crippled the taliban, and helped a new government rise to power ... in retrospect we should have sent in a lager force, but we were fearful of what happened to the Russians

you should be ashamed of yourself for confusing Afghanistan with whats happening in Iraq

Iran a threat to the US? ... lol, not so much ... but then neither was Iraq

Iraq is a war of opportunity ... and the Bush administrations loyal friends are getting very, very rich as a result ... paid by the American taxpayer ... we are being looted from the inside ... and you're not wrong, as an American I am a little ashamed of that

Answer 1

These Military Misadventures by Bush senior and Bush Juniour have no International Relevance or sanction and its always the national interest rhetoric is getting to be the world police..

As far as I am concerened, I see these wars as futile cause they are designed to cause mayhem that will last for a hundred years,

Iraq was never a US problem, yet Saddam was demonised. There are Millions killed in 7 years in Iraq by the Bush administration compared to thousands during Saddams regime.

Lill by lill everyone is getting war wary and even the UK is getting out,

So any more misadventures by the US will have far reaching negative consequences on its people and not many will tow the US line and Bush Rhetoric.

I was just wondering wether or not this George W Bush even has a concience and wether his cronies dont even feel human anymore.

Answer 2

You start your argument based on a fallacious idea - that the government pays contractors to not do their jobs. Though it is true that there are some contractors who don't do their jobs, that is the truth everywhere. The difference is the results may have international impact and in the case of "security personnel" gives the US a particular black eye when they go over the line.
You also assume that the Bush administration will invade Iran. Actually, you used the words "rape and plunder" which are so unbelievably offensive to anyone who has served in either Iraq or Afghanistan that you should be ashamed of yourself.
In any case, the real question is how much of a threat is Iran or how much of a threat will they be in the near future? There are plenty of people outside of the Bush administration who feel that they are. We already know that Iran has vowed Isreal's destruction as well as our withdrawal from the whole area and our downfall as a whole. Let's not paint Iran as some helpless victim and the US as the bogeyman.

Answer 3

'Rape' and Pillage' are interesting words to use in a country where rape only counts if there are 3 witnesses and cross-border raids on other countries occur multiple times a year.

That aside, any country that has declared that the elimination of another is a necessity is placing itself in a dangerous political position. Iran has done this on multiple occasions. While this by no means preludes war, it means that any international incident could set the whole thing off. The incident in which Iranian ships captured, beat and starved british saliors recently comes to mind. Hopefully Iran will settle down to become another North Korea, bent on America's destruction but not actually willing to do anything about it. That sounds bad, but would be the lesser of two evils.

As for the large number of civilians involved in Iraqs reconstruction process, this is a trend that will continue into the forseeable future. America's current military stragey calls for the reconstruction of any warzone they smash..often to the point of making it better than before. This is an evolution of the 'win their hearts and minds' strategy that met with limited success in the vietnam war.

In the end it is best to remeber that despite the past few decades, there have been 2 cultral traits that are still inbred into american culture.

1: Any coutnry invaded must be left in a condition to fend for itself (this has been a demand since the Cold war and Germany's divison and improverishment)

2: Americans will finish wars no matter the cost at home. (This has proably been America's biggest politcal chip, as even nuclear weapons are not certain to remove the tradtional amercian fighting resolve)

In favor against a war:

1: Americans are one of the least tolerant non-european nations about foreign wars, It is very difficult to convince Americans to get involved in non-American matters (Darfur and the Chinese invasion of tibet come to mind.)

2: There is an election coming in 2008. With war being one of the main topics, it should serve as a good 'litmus test' as too the average American's opnion of the current foreign policy.

Answer 4

We will not invade Iran. Period.

And Halliburton is the poster child for American corporate opportunism and rapacity (i.e. there is a frickin' reason the name comes up so frequently).

I love it...even right-wingers are disavowing their boy W. Bush will not be remembered for his mistakes...he will be remembered as a mistake.

Finally, I'd rather MY tax dollars went to help feed the children of a drug addict than to increase Dick Cheney's dividends. You see the Dems and the Reps will always f*ck things up in their own way. But the Dems way errs on the side of the poor and suffering...the Rep way errs on the side of the rich and increases suffering. So it is, so it will be.

Answer 5

Grow up. Iran is a threat to the entire middle east. However, since the rest of the world is ignoring the problem, I don't think it should be up to the US to single handedly take on the problem.

Your rape and pillage observation is nonsense and not worthy of commentary.

Edit:

Your question was about Iran. That is what I commented on. Information I get about Iraq comes from my son, who is a Combat Engineer Officer and stationed in Iraq. I find his first hand observations to be more accurate than the prevaricative nonsense I see posted here.

I don't support the war in Iraq. I have not supported it from the very start and think it will go down in history as President Bush's biggest blunder. While I don't support our participation in this Iraq blunder, I also don't support the vituperation that the left attempts to pass off as intelligent discourse.

As far as the contractors are concerned, I've previously commented on it. I'd rather contractors get paid the extra bucks to escort VIPs (both American, Iraq and others) than our soldiers. American soldiers are not security guards and their lives mean more to me than the life of some petty politician, filled with a false self-importance.

You know, not a single question gets answered without some ill-informed twit finding a way to inject Haliburton into the discussion in a futile attempt to sound intelligent.

Answer 6

Looking at the "answers" above and again as always whenever a question involves the quote.."Your tax dollars" etc. and how they (the dollars) are being raped and pillaged, it's odd how nobody ever seems to comment on [that] side of the coin?!

..very interesting..do all those Americans work for Haliburton or blackwater? Spend them Defense Dollars!$$

Answer 7

Pillaging is on the agenda but I think we're scheduling the raping for the next country on the list. Have your people call my people and we'll do lunch.

Silly question, silly answer.

Answer 8

No, the Bush administration will invade Iran. If they get ahold of nuclear capabilities ISRAEL will rape and pillage Iran.

Add: Oh, and my tax dollars are going to waste, huh? So this would be different from my tax dollars going to some welfare program so some druggie can be lazy and get a free ride how?

Answer 9

apparently YES but then there's not much the American public that has been able to do about it ! Bush/Chaney& Company stole the 2004 election as well as 2000 and the Republican majority did nothing. The 2006 elections through out everyone supporting Bush Iran debauchery and still the carnage and corruption continues!

Answer 10

From what I've read we always put far more money into the countries we take over than what we can ever hope to take out if we wanted. I think if anything we are too nice.