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2007-05-10 15:53:40 · 16 answers · asked by realchurchhistorian 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

As suggested, try Jeremiah 44.

You have to ask yourself, are you really just trying to justify your position, or are you searching for the Truth?

Which do you think God is interested in? You know. So make that your #1 interest, and the scales might fall from your eyes.

2007-05-10 16:14:13 · update #1

Imacatholic -- the Mary you worship is the Queen of Heaven. She is the pagan queen from Jeremiah 44, not the humble mother of Jesus.

Mary had other children, sinned like you and me, and is no where in the scriptures elevated to any position of importance beyond that of any other believer.

She was the chosen one to give birth to the Christ. It is an incredible honor. But just like Peter she is just a believer.

Paganized Christianity has tainted the minds of 'christians' for over 1,000 years now. Much credit to this can be given to the worshippers of the ancient "Queen of Heaven" who is found in many pagan religions of old, including Catholic & Orthodox theologies.

2007-05-11 12:23:09 · update #2

Isabella -- very poetic. The notion that Mary was sinless is absurd.

There is no logic or scripture that removes her from the line of Adam I which means she received a sinful nature just as you and I.

This is why the Catholic Church and her daughters are in so much trouble. They come up with an unfounded theory, then start building on it and defending it.

Old wives tales do not count for spiritual truth.

2007-05-12 13:22:37 · update #3

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The term only appears in reference to a false goddess mentioned in the Book of Jeremiah.

Jeremiah 44:17-25

2007-05-10 16:06:17 · answer #1 · answered by wefmeister 7 · 2 0

Mother of God, Queen of Heaven

Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ, who is God the Son, and therefore can be addressed as the Mother of God.

This is similar to a commoner who marries a king and becomes the mother of the next king. She is entitled to the title Queen and Mother of the King even though she is not royalty.

Nobody two hundred, five hundred or a thousand years ago would have been confused about these terms.

But this is hard for people to understand in these times where royalty and kings and queens are few and far between.

With love in Christ.

2007-05-11 01:32:16 · answer #2 · answered by imacatholic2 7 · 1 1

The wording "Queen of Heaven" has been seriously mis-translated in most versions of the Bible, including the King James. This is what Gill's Commentary has to say:

"Jeremiah 7:18 -- to make cakes for the queen of heaven; the moon, as Abarbinel; which rules by night, as the sun is the king that rules by day; and which was much worshipped by the Heathens, whom the Jews imitated. Some render it, to the work, or workmanship, of heavens; (q) that is, to the whole host of heaven, sun, moon, and stars, which were worshipped in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem, 2Ki_23:5.

The Targum renders it, "to the star of heaven;'' and Jarchi interprets it of some great star in the heaven, called the queen of heaven; and thinks that these cakes had the impress of a star upon them; see Amo_5:26 where mention is made of "Chiun, your image, the star of your god". The word "chiun" is akin to the word here translated cakes, and thought to be explained by a star; see also Act_7:43 but it seems rather to be the moon, which is expressly called by Apuleius (r) the queen of heaven; and often by others Coelestis; and Urania by the Africans, as Tertullian (s) and Herodian (t) affirm; as also Beltis, by Abydenus (u); and Baaltis, by Philo-Byblius, or Sanchoniatho (w); which have the signification of "queen"; and these cakes might have the form of the moon upon them, and be made and offered in imitation of the shewbread."

The term either refers to a pagan moon goddess or to the collection of heavenly bodies. The old notion that it referred to Ishtar has been discounted by a number of scholars, based on better understanding of the culture of Israel at the time in which the verses were written.

It does not have any reference to the Virgin Mary, if that's your implication. . .and it obviously is.

2007-05-10 23:06:40 · answer #3 · answered by Wolfeblayde 7 · 0 1

I am searching for the Truth - Mary is our Mother and Queen of the New Davidic Kingdom

John 19:26 - Jesus makes Mary the Mother of us all as He dies on the Cross by saying "behold your mother." Jesus did not say "John, behold your mother" because he gave Mary to all of us, his beloved disciples. All the words that Jesus spoke on Cross had a divine purpose. Jesus was not just telling John to take care of his mother.

Rev. 12:17 - this verse proves the meaning of John 19:26. The "woman's" (Mary's) offspring are those who follow Jesus. She is our Mother and we are her offspring in Jesus Christ. The master plan of God's covenant love for us is family. But we cannot be a complete family with the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Christ without the Motherhood of Mary.

John 2:3 - this is a very signifcant verse in Scripture. As our mother, Mary tells all of us to do whatever Jesus tells us. Further, Mary's intercession at the marriage feast in Cana triggers Jesus' ministry and a foreshadowing of the Eucharistic celebration of the Lamb. This celebration unites all believers into one famiy through the marriage of divinity and humanity.

John 2:7 - Jesus allows His mother to intercede for the people on His behalf, and responds to His mother's request by ordering the servants to fill the jars with water.

Psalm 45:9 - the psalmist teaches that the Queen stands at the right hand of God. The role of the Queen is important in God's kingdom. Mary the Queen of heaven is at the right hand of the Son of God.

1 Kings 2:17, 20 - in the Old Testament Davidic kingdom, the King does not refuse his mother. Jesus is the new Davidic King, and He does not refuse the requests of his mother Mary, the Queen.

1 Kings 2:18 - in the Old Testament Davidic kingdom, the Queen intercedes on behalf of the King's followers. She is the Queen Mother (or "Gebirah"). Mary is our eternal Gebirah.

1 Kings 2:19 - in the Old Testament Davidic kingdom the King bows down to his mother and she sits at his right hand. We, as children of the New Covenant, should imitate our King and pay the same homage to Mary our Mother. By honoring Mary, we honor our King, Jesus Christ.

1 Kings 15:13 - the Queen Mother is a powerful position in Israel's royal monarchy. Here the Queen is removed from office. But now, the Davidic kingdom is perfected by Jesus, and our Mother Mary is forever at His right hand.

2 Chron. 22:10 - here Queen Mother Athalia destroys the royal family of Judah after she sees her son, King Ahaziah, dead. The Queen mother plays a significant role in the kingdom.

Neh. 2:6 - the Queen Mother sits beside the King. She is the primary intercessor before the King.

2007-05-11 12:19:45 · answer #4 · answered by Daver 7 · 0 1

Nowhere is Mary called the Mother of God.
Jesus knew He was to do the work of His Father in Heaven.
Mary had no idea she would be having the Messiah until Gabriel told her.
Isaiah 9 talks about Jesus (no mention of "Mother Mary").

Mary and Joesph were only a man and woman.
they have a geneology

2007-05-10 23:51:37 · answer #5 · answered by robert p 7 · 1 0

the Queen of Babylon
Semiramis became known as "Ishtar" which is pronounced "Easter," worshipped as the "Mother of God and Queen of Heaven" she was married to Crush, Nimrod, and Tammuz
in
Jeremiah 44

2007-05-10 23:00:53 · answer #6 · answered by Noble Angel 6 · 2 0

Oh it isn't referenced in the Bible those wicked Catholics. So who does the Bible call Pat Robertson? Isn't your bit he's a Man 'o God? But wait - I thought nothing was valid if it wasn't in the Bible? Oops. Sounds like you screwed up your logic,pops.
Fact is,you fundies wouldn't even have a Bible if it weren't for the RCC and by the way we don't consider you Christians anyway,since you worship Israelis.

2007-05-10 22:59:35 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Semiramis, who was married to Nimrod. She was also known as Ishtar. She was also known as the Mother of God and the Virgin Mother.

2007-05-10 23:02:34 · answer #8 · answered by sensiblechristian 1 · 1 0

The bible does not call anyone the Queen of Heaven. Jesus says this" who is my brother, my sister or mother, it is they that does the will of my Father which is in heaven.

2007-05-10 22:59:01 · answer #9 · answered by I Wanna Know 3 · 1 1

Mary was the chosen one in this world. And to answer your question it's Mother nature.

2007-05-10 23:03:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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