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wether it be a protest or signing a petition or anything of this sort? have you ever lead one of these types of things? what was the experience like?

2007-03-09 07:26:37 · 11 answers · asked by chikka 5 in Food & Drink Vegetarian & Vegan

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NO! I am active in animal welfare issues and I'm a life member of the USHS but It's my opinion that (at this point in time) animal rightists are counterproductive to the more immediate need of treating animals humanely! You can't run before learning to walk; most of society can't even crawl.

You ask about past history of protests and such; I was one of the early members of PETA and helped establish their initial presence in Texas. I'm the fool they talked into entering a veggie chili into the cook-off in Terlingua since mine looks and tastes like regular Texas 'dead stuff' chili. The plan was supposed to be that after the thing was over they'd announce the results of how a veggie chili did against the 'real' ones. When I took second place one of the other Peta idiots started snarking on them about how a veggie almost won and you stupid meat-eaters were eating soy. The b*st*ard almost got us killed by starting the confrontation there! My last bit of Peta-ness was stupidly agreeing to help them with veggie ribs to put into the Chicago Rib-fest. My veggie ribs have the texture of the real 'dead' stuff and so I taught a Chicago guy how to spin ribs, but the flavor was his part. They pulled the same damn stunt when the veggie ribs won first prize. Chicago folks get just as nasty as chili-heads! They were tickled S-less about getting people angry and that was the END of my association with them.

In the 20+years since that happened I've seen how much *real* change the USHS has done to improve animals lives and I've also seen how little Peta has actually done to truly make a difference. In these years I've seen how large Peta's bank account has gotten and just how little of that money they actually spend towards animals and how much they spend on confrontational advertising that only make people angry. They run websites to promote vegetarianism but then convince folks that veggies are violent psycho's that will attack you if you don't agree with them! By not funding no-kill shelters they convince the world that vegetarians are hypocrites! They've GOT the damn money and could *easily* afford it but would rather earn interest on the cash than save animals lives.

You want to make a real difference? Join a Humane society or fund a no-kill shelter. To protest for animal rights is a waste of time while most people just think of animals as being tasty; when large numbers of people think dog,rooster and bull fights are entertainment. Until society as a whole largely accepts animals as deserving respectful, humane treatment; animal welfare has to take priority over animal rights.

Jim's answer proves my points! Does anyone think that making someone that angry will encourage him to support a cruelty-free lifestyle? Do you think he's ever going to consider veggies in a positive light? He's dead-set convinced that we're wrong and that makes the job of helping animals that much harder!

Sorry for the rant but having Yahoo steal my avatar, name and edit profile option has made me *much* crankier than usual!

2007-03-09 19:03:46 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 5 1

Hate to tell you this but animal rights activist do far more harm to their organizations then help. Yep there is nothing like seeing a 17, 18 year old tossing blood on some little old lady to help the cause. Never ONCE have I seen or heard about a bunch of animal rights activists tossing blood on the leather jacket of a biker at a biker’s bar. Think about it, bikers go though a lot more leather then the little old lady ever will; of course little old ladies seldom fight back. Nothing like going after defenseless people to make your point. After a few protests like that what side do you think most people are on? The animal rights activist or the crying little old lady? You know the one standing there with tear flowing saying to a TV reporter “I was so scared, I thought they were going to beat me up. I couldn’t even run away. They were say I was evil….ETC”

Now there have be some very good campaigns out there, non-violent, that get the point across, but for the most part protests and petitions are worthless. (please notice I said for the most part).

The BEST way to stop people from buying leather and fur is first don’t buy it yourself, then talk your friend into not buying fur or leather, that include cars, trucks, etc. as the demand go down less and less leather and fur will be produced, and it will become harder and harder to find until, there is no more fur or leather.

2007-03-10 12:46:42 · answer #2 · answered by Richard 7 · 1 0

I make up some petitions and have people sign them then send them to K.F.C. Iams etc. I'm about to go into high school and found out i have to disect a frog. I believe this is morally wrong so I plan on gathering signatures and refusing to dissect. I'm hoping to get a policy written making it clear that students have a choice and should be made aware. B.T.W. it's really fun and i feel more important after i do something. Thepetitionsite.com is a great site to do something.

2007-03-11 15:59:48 · answer #3 · answered by irockudont61 1 · 1 0

I never have been in a protest, but I would if it meant saving animals. As for the petition, I signed the online Kentucky Fried Cruelty one.

2007-03-09 15:57:11 · answer #4 · answered by Pieces Of Rainbowzz 4 · 0 0

I co-head a monthly potluck and head
an adopt a college program.
If you're not familiar with adopt a college
it's a vegetarian outreach program in
which you set up a table on a campus
yard or in a student union. You give
people leaflets, veg-starter packs
etc. and field questions from them.
I have also fund-raised for Farm
Sanctuary and a Gandhi- aware-ness
event in which we built a display in memory
of Mahatma and his nonviolent philosophy.

I've learned a lot from adopt a college
about how to conduct myself as a veg-
etarian. I've learned perseverance
through fund-raising. I learned about
teamwork on the Gandhi project.

The potluck is pure fun. There's not
that much work too it.

2007-03-09 16:29:00 · answer #5 · answered by Standing Stone 6 · 2 0

I have signed some online petetions, and would like to get more involved. I feel like a hipocrit being a vegetarian and NOT doing something, but I don't think the answer is me trying to shove my beliefs and opinions down others throats. I would like to do something more proactive, but dont really know how or what to do. what gets me is that the average consumer has NO CLUE the conditions animals raised for food are in. I am a chef, and thought I was knowledgeable about food until I developed an allergy to meat, and had to do some research. I was SHOCKED, STUNNED AND OUTRAGED almost as much about the fact that I simply didnt know. I am 43 years old, and only gained this knowledge a couple of years ago. I, like most others, was blissfully ignorant to the facts. I simply never thought of meat as being an animal (I knew it was of course) it was just meat to me. Now that I know, I simply chose not to support an industry that would treat animals that way.

2007-03-09 15:40:41 · answer #6 · answered by beebs 6 · 0 2

I sign a bunch of petitions =]
I mean a bbbbbbuuuuunch.

But on a more serious note, I do teach as many people that will listen and ask questions the rights and wrongs of animal abuse for leather, meat, fur etc. etc. I read and sign petitions and send them to my boyfriend to read and sign himself.

2007-03-09 19:21:42 · answer #7 · answered by Killer Karamazing 4 · 1 0

Yes <3
I protested outside of a fur coat store. I got yelled at by the manager but it was really good. They've lost many cosomers =]
And Pantions too. They aren't as involved though

2007-03-09 21:48:42 · answer #8 · answered by Halle? 2 · 1 0

I give to a few different charities including animal rights organizations.

By-the-way, if you watched Glenn Beck last night (and why anyone watches him I don't know, but I digress) you could see my friend Matt! He has the best job. He gets to fly all over the country representing PETA.

2007-03-09 15:35:45 · answer #9 · answered by asleepfornow 3 · 2 0

Nope, while I can't stand animal cruelty, but when it comes to butchering cows or pigs for the food market then by all means go for it. It's got to be done. These pig farms and beef farms are here to provide food for the economy, not provide tender loving care for stray cow or pigs. That's what horses or donkeys are for, and cats and dogs and other pets.

I hate it when activists are like..."what did that cow ever do to you? Huh!! how can you eat something that was butchered like that?"


It's not like the farmers torture their livestock then kill. They raise them feed them care for them then they get butchered so people can survive and live healthy.

I can't stand activists, I hate them with a passion. Go ahead have your own beliefs and your own diet, BUT DON'T TRY TO PUSH ME INTO SEEING YOUR VIEWS!!!!!!

an activist one was literally harassing me on a daily basis to try to get me to not eat meat ever again. So I went to my friend who just happens to be a butcher and asked for some cow organs covered in blood and threw them at the activist and rubbed it in his face. He finally got the message not to talk to me anymore. I can tolerate someone handing out flyers because I can throw those out, but I don't want anyone in my face accusing me of being an animal hater because I eat meat. I love animals, if my dad let me, and we had enough open space I'd have a couple dogs. It's not like I'm the one killing the animal for food, or killing the animal for pleasure.

2007-03-09 15:45:10 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 6

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