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Did a man by the name of Constatine have a hand in putting the bible together?

2007-12-27 20:59:30 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Constantine had nothing to do with the scriptures.

The authentic church most certainly did.

Before any written texts, there were oral teachings (of One God)

The Pentateuch ("The Law"), is the first 5 books of the Old Testament (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy). First written by Moses (inspired by God) c.1,300 B.C. to c. 454 or 100 B.C.

OLD TESTAMENT: 46 completed books c. 100 B.C.(note: 46 books, NOT only 39 as is in the Protestant versions)

THE SEPTUAGINT: (the sole and official canon of the Catholic O.T.) c. 280 or 250 B.C. to 100 B.C.

Under Pharaoh of Egypt: Ptolemy Philedelphus commissioned 70 Jewish Scholars (Scribes) to translate into the vernacular (common language spoken at the time): GREEK This is the Greek translation that Jesus and His Apostles (and Jews at the time) used, and quoted from as well.

(After the dispersions of the Jews, they began to lose their Hebrew tongue, and Greek, which was the universal language at the time, became their spoken tongue.)

After the death of Jesus, and many of His Apostles, c. 100 A.D., in the village of Jamnia (in ancient Israel -see "Jabneh") the Sadducees (enemies of Christ and non-believers in the resurrection, life-afer-death, and angels...) assembled a completely new version of Jewish scripture, omitting some books entirely and rewriting others.

The result is the JAMNIAN CANON, or, the PALESTINIAN TALMUD.

(There is also another version known as the BABYLONIAN TALMUD.)In Acts 5: 17-19, it states that the Sadducees were particularly zealous enemies of Christianity.

One of them for instance (Aquila) removed the word PARTHENOS (virgin), from Isaiah 7:14, and rendered it NEANIS (a young woman)shall conceive. That way they could assert that the prophecy didn't match what the Christians were teaching.

An interesting note: Since the deviation from the True Old Testament, Judaism has splintered into many different sects. (Sounds familiar as has happened to Protestants, there are currently 33,000 different Protestant sects with more new ones being established each year.)

During the Reformation, the Protestants rejected the Catholic Bible and adopted the (altered) Hebrew Bible, that does not have the complete 46 Books and verses.

This is why the Protestant's "Old Testament" part of their Bible has only 39 Books, and incomplete passages/verses in parts.

Thus, the (altered) Hebrew Bible is what the Jews today use, and the Church has the TRUE, complete, Old Testament. So we see that the two differ.

The Prostestants have the Hebrew Old Testament as part of their Bible, and the Catholic New Testament. So we see that before the Reformation the True Church has always kept intact the True Scriptures - Old and New.

And after the Reformation, after using the Bible for over 1500 years, man altered the Bible, by adopting the altered Hebrew Bible, and through Martin Luther, even added words to the Bible!

Praise the Lord our God, through Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, that as Jesus promised, He guided His Church, to make sure that the true Bible was kept intact, and His teachings unchanged in His True Church.

Because non-Catholics do not have the fullness of Truth or the fullness of the WHOLE Bible, they do not understand all the teachings of the Apostles or have that unbroken link from the Apostles.

Because of the altered Prostestant bible, they have come up with many "new" and contradictory theories and dogmas, even among themselves.

That is not to say that they do not have some truths, for those that believe in the Trinity - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and Jesus as Savior and the Way, and are Baptized as Christ instructed by using water "In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit", are Christians.

They are just the separated brothers and sisters of R. C. Christians.

Remember, Christ founded and established ONE Church, and promised to guide THAT Church throughout the Ages, in all fullness of truth. He did not establish and found thousands and thousands of churches.

He left us a visible voice on earth, the vicar of Christ, who upholds all of Christ's and His Apostles teachings.

Just as in the Old Testament the High Priest was the one who spoke God's words to the people and taught them, and made the decisions with God's blessings, so too has Christ continued this God-made tradition by giving us a "high" priest (Bishop)on earth - the Pope (which means papa--father).

In Matt. 23:1-3, "Jesus spoke to the crowds and to His disciples, saying, 'The scribes and the Pharisees have taken their seat on the chair of Moses. Therefore, do and observe all things whatsoever they tell you, but do not follow their example. For they preach but do not practice."


We see that even Jesus upheld the teachings just as we are to do today with the teachings of His Church - the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

By the way, the term "Roman Catholic" is a name given by non-catholics during the Reformation, -- it is really called the Church. But the name is used (R.C.) to distinguish it from all the other churches in the world today.

Before the Reformation, it was only known as the Church - a universal (which is what "catholic" really means) Church for all men who want to know Christ and be Christian.
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2007-12-27 21:56:26 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 2

Several people wrote religious tracts in the first and second century. There was a general consensus on some of these writings well before the time of Constantine -- particularly on the Gospels of Matther, Mark, Luke and John. There were lots of arguments, though, over which books were the inspired word of God and which were not. Late in the 4th century, the Catholic Pope convened a council (the Council of Rome) where they decided which books were to be included in the canon and which were not. The Catholic Bible has remained unchanged since that time.

In the 15th century, Protestants dropped several books from the canon. Catholics held another council (the Council of Trent). At this council, the Catholics reaffirmed the canon from the 4th century.

Constantine was the first emperor of Rome to become a Catholic. As such, he obviously had a lot of power in shaping the church. However, three men -- Paul, Augustine and Thomas Aquinas -- had more influence in shaping the Christian religions than Constantine.

2007-12-28 05:07:34 · answer #2 · answered by Ranto 7 · 0 1

Over 1300 years, many different authors, by the divine guidance of the Holy Spirit, wrote the 66 books of the bible. the first 5 or Pentateuch were written by Moses. Job is also believed to be written by Moses as well then we have Samuel, David, Solomon, Jeremiah, Isaiah, Daniel, Amos, and others. On the New Testament, Matthew, Mark, wrote their accounts of the Gospel. Luke wrote the Gospel and Acts. John did revelation, Paul wrote most of the New Testament and there are some books like James that is only speculated, but nothing for sure...
Anyways, here is the deal with Constantine. The Old Testament we always had, the Jews had it when Jesus was around.
The New Testament was a different story. You see, the apostles thought Jesus was coming on their time, so John, Matthew, Mark and Luke never wrote an account of Jesus' life until later one (the first account written was the Gospel of Mark, AD 65).
After a few hundred years, there were hundreds of books on the life of Jesus (Apocrypha books, or hidden books). Not all of them were accurate, most of them were only written as a novel.
Constantine became a Christian and decided to end that. He in fact had some to do, but not a lot. He ordered that a canon was created, so a group of scholars got together and examined each book in circulation, and they defined which ones were to make the canon. Their criteria were simple, the book had to sound inspired, it had to agree Theologically with the Old Testament, it had to be from the apostolic era (AD 65 - AD 100), it had to agree with each other Theologically speaking. They had most of the books added, I believe the last one to be added was Hebrews because they had a hard time to believing in it.

So constantine did have something to do with the bible... he also is the one responsible for the change of the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday (you can look it up...)

2007-12-28 05:21:45 · answer #3 · answered by H.G 2 · 0 2

I saw on a documentary that there was never any "cross" sign that Constantine saw.

He saw the Greek letters "Chi-Rho", which is a 'P' and 'X' put together. This was a symbol the early Christians used. You can see the symbol if you type it on Google Images.

2007-12-28 05:18:51 · answer #4 · answered by grassfell 3 · 0 1

Constaintine only converted to Christianity on his death bed. It is ironic how the seasons change pertaining to religion. At the beginning, Christians were thrown to the lions durin pagan Rome. Now the Romans represent Christianity. Funny, isn't it?

2007-12-28 05:02:47 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

Yes.They had a vote and decided which books should be removed and which books should be in the Bible.This was in about 350 A.D.I believe the Pope had a meeting with all the hierarchy of the churches .

Then they made 50 copies

Tradition tells us that he was converted to Christianity suddenly, and by a miracle. One evening during the contest with Maxentius, he saw a radiant cross appearing in the heavens, with the inscription, "By this thou shalt conquer." The tradition is first mentioned by Eusebius, in his De Vita Constantini, written after the emperor’s death. This miracle has been defended. with ingenious sophistry by Roman-Catholic historians and by Card. Dr. Newman (Two Essays on Biblical and on Ecclesiastical Miracles, 3d ed., Lond., 1873, pp. 271 sqq.), but cannot stand the test of critical examination. Constantine may have seen some phenomenon in the skies; he was no doubt convinced of the superior claims of Christianity as the rising religion; but his conversion was a change of policy, rather than of moral character. Long after that event he killed, his son, his second wife, several others of his relatives, and some of his most intimate friends, in passionate resentment of some fancied infringement of his rights. In his relation to Christianity he was cool, calculating, always bent upon the practically useful, always regarding the practically possible. He retained the office and title of Pontifex Maximus to the last, and did not receive Christian baptism until he felt death close upon him. He kept Pagans in the highest positions in his immediate surroundings, and forbade every thing which might look like an encroachment of Christianity upon Paganism. Such a faith in such a character is not the result of a sudden conversion by a miracle: if it were, the effect would be more miraculous than the cause. Judging from the character both of his father and mother, it is probable that he grew up in quiet but steady contact with Christianity. Christianity had, indeed, become something in the air which no one occupying a prominent position in the Roman world could remain entirely foreign to. But the singular mixture of political carefulness and personal indifference with which he treated. it presupposes a relation of observation rather than impression. He knew Christianity well, but only as a power in the Roman Empire; and he protected it as a wise and far-seeing statesman. As a power not of this world, he hardly ever came to understand it.

His first edict concerning the Christians (Rome 312) is lost. By the second (Milan, 313) he granted them, not only free religious worship and the recognition of the State, but also reparation of previously incurred losses. Banished men who worked on the galleys or in the mines were recalled, confiscated estates were restored, etc. A series of edicts of 315, 316, 319, 321, and 323, completed. the revolution. Christians were admitted to the offices of the State, both military and civil; the Christian clergy was exempted from all municipal burdens, as were the Pagan priests; the emancipation of Christian slaves was facilitated; Jews were forbidden to keep Christian slaves, etc. An [547] edict of 321 ordered Sunday to be celebrated by cessation of all work in public. When Constantine became master of the whole empire, all these edicts were extended to the whole realm, and the Roman world more and more assumed the aspect of a Christian state. One thing, however, puzzled and annoyed the emperor very much, - the dissensions of the Christians, their perpetual squabbles about doctrines, and the fanatical hatred thereby engendered. In the Roman Empire the most different religions lived peacefully beside each other, and here was a religion which could not live in peace with itself. For political reasons, however, unity and harmony were necessary; and in 325 the Emperor convened the first great oecumenical council at Nicæa to settle the Arian controversy. It was the first time the Christian Church and the Roman State met each other face to face; and the impression was very deep on both sides. When the emperor stood there, among the three hundred and eighteen bishops, tall, clad in purple and jewels, with his peculiarly haughty and sombre mien, he felt disgusted at those coarse and cringing creatures who one moment scrambled sportively around him to snatch up a bit of his munificence, and the next flew madly into each other’s faces for some incomprehensible mystery. Nevertheless, he learnt something from those people. He saw that with Christianity was born a new sentiment in the human heart hitherto unknown to mankind, and that on this sentiment the throne could be rested more safely than on the success of a court-intrigue, or the victory of a hired army. The only rational legitimation which the antique world had known of the kingship was descent from the gods; but this authority had now become a barefaced lie, and was difficult to use even in the form of a flattery. At Nicæa, however, the idea of a kingship of God’s grace began to dawn upon mankind. Constantine also met there with men who must have charmed and awed him by their grand simplicity, burdened, and almost curbed, as he was by the enormous complexity of Roman life. After the Council of Nicæa, he conversed more and more frequently and intimately with the bishops. his interest in Christianity grew with the years; but, as was to have been foreseen, he was sure to be led astray, for the needle lacked in the compass. He was more and more drawn over to the side of the Arians, and it was an Arian bishop who baptized him.

2007-12-28 05:03:21 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

The bible is composing many books which were put into one book which is called the bible or the scripture. Any prob lem?

2007-12-28 05:06:22 · answer #7 · answered by Jesus M 7 · 0 2

Constantine was a pagen, he didnt put the bible together. I read that he wasnt even baptised Catholic until he was dead.

2007-12-28 05:04:15 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

With much prayer and fasting

2007-12-28 05:02:01 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

i don't know about that - but i do know that the NKJV - was authorized by King James and that he said what could stay and what had to go, but before that, i don't know.

2007-12-28 05:02:59 · answer #10 · answered by Grace 2 · 1 3

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