SO, you don't believe in that man made global warming stuff huh?

Question

SO sceptics and deniers, you don't believe in that man made global warming stuff huh?
Well then, what are your views on the origins of the universe and that evolution thing?

Garacaius, what natural cycle would that be?

Garacaius, ok then keep going, what caused it then and which natural cycle is causing this warming? There are lots of things that could be called a natural cycle, so which one are you talking about? Is it the Milankovitch cycle? The sarcadian cycle? The solar blavewitch cycle? The carbon cycle? The menstrual cycle? Or maybe it’s the spin cycle? If it's a natural cycle it must have a mechanism.

Answer 1

Ha ha, got a lot of evasive answers here. I betcha 90 bazillion dollars if you did well designed survey, the kind that exposes inconsistent answers, disbelief in Evolution would directly correlate with disbelief in Global Warming.

Answer 2

The origin of the universe is still a mystery, the currently accepted Big Bang Theory only explains events just after the initial origin (i.e. just after the initial mass/energy locus came into being).

Evolution is clearly the best explanation for the observable evidence, but the theory itself as evolved significantly from Darwin's original premise.

What does this have to do with global warming?

Answer 3

The first thing is to set parameters. In the scientific community theory is defined as:
In science, a theory is a mathematical or logical explanation, or a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise falsified through empirical observation. It follows from this that for scientists "theory" and "fact" do not necessarily stand in opposition. For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theories commonly used to describe and explain this behavior are Newton's theory of universal gravitation (see also gravitation), and general relativity.

Unless you understand what "Theory" means in science then a cogent argument is impossible.

Answer 4

I usually don't think about the origin of the Universe that often, but I do know the beginning of the Bible is very flawed. It was early mans way of trying to explain how life on earth began, than it goes into a history of only one race of people (And most of that history can be proven.) So how did the great expanse of the Universe happen? Nothing has been proven to be a fact yet, but the big bang theory is still the best one we have to date.

As for evolution, I've been giving that a lot of thought lately. It makes sense that things have evolved over time, since it shows itself to be true everyday. Humans are still evolving, since we keep striving to improve on all aspects of life and discover more about the planet we live on. (Sure there are some cultures that are less evolved, but they are a link to the past and the way things used to be. These cultures also live in regions that don't require them to change the way they live.)

The thing I'm still trying to solidify in my mind about the start of any creature is how did adult creatures form first, since babies of any species could never survive.

Egyptian history places the first humans at 500,000 to 700,000 years ago. That is almost hard to believe, since it would appear we evolve culturally much faster than that.

"The earliest evidence for humans in Egypt dates from around 500,000 - 700,000 years ago. These hominid finds are those of **** erectus. Early Paleolithic sites are most often found near now dried-up springs or lakes or in areas where materials to make stone tools are plentiful."

http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/egypt/history/paleolithic%20egypt.htm

So are scientists wrong on how they are reading the carbon dating information?

(Edit: If anyone thought my answer was evasive, it's not, it's my true feelings about each of the theories Gwens asked about in her question. I'm being open and honest to her.)

Answer 5

There have been global warming and global cooling cycles going on long before man climbed down out of the trees. Global warming occurs when there is a build up of CO2 in the atmosphere (has happened at the end of EVERY ice age) causing a warming period. The glacial ices melts and that eventually causes changes in the oceanic currents which then puts us back on the path to another ice age. This has happened numerous times in the last 1 million years, are you implying that man has caused each and every period of global warming or are we just somehow responsible for this one freak occurance of global warming????

Answer 6

It does not matter what my BELIEF in anything is because global warming is supposed to be a SCIENTIFIC debate. And the only reason it is a debate is because the Anthropogenic Global Warming theory has not been proven as scientific fact. The IPCC has made an extensive report on our climate, but has never proved that humans are the main cause. Don't believe me, read the 4th assessment report yourself, I'll make it easy and give you information. When you read their hypothesis, you'll find words like "likely" and "very likely," phrases that should not be uttered when you're trying to PROVE something. Yes the IPCC report has defined the use of these words in the second link I provide.

Scientists today aren't saying that gravity "likely"(above %66 as defined by the IPCC) exists, they KNOW gravity exists.

Then how come people are letting the IPCC say things like "Anthropogenic forcing has LIKELY contributed to recent decreases in arctic sea ice extent and to glacier retreat." How come people are taking this as scientific proof when the IPCC admits that it only has about %66 confidence in this statement? Don't just believe me read it for yourself in these links below.

Bob: You and I both know that the IPCC scientists are being "conservative" with their accusations because
1. They haven't proven they're CLAIMS. Otherwise it would be scientific law in every book and source out there.
2. They know they have a large change of being wrong.

I'm sorry Bob, but in the scientific community you have to prove something before it's a fact. The IPCC has said they have %66 confidence that humans are causing glacial extent retreat (that's not me talking, that's them, go read the assessment for yourself.) That's like a doctor saying they're %66 confident you have a brain tumor and they're going to operate to fix it. The IPCC (like doctors) have to be right %100 of the time before they start spending trillions and trillions of dollars trying to fix something. Just like the doctor had better be right before he starts cutting you open.

Answer 7

These kind of answers are the ones that really get me down. doesnt anybody relize that YES the climate does cool and warm over thousands of years. BUT NOT LIKE THIS EVER BEFORE !! it is rising so fast that species and effected areas are not having a chance to adapt to this rapid change in temperature

Answer 8

Don't brand me as a heretic, but I'm not sure which of the several computer models are correct, since none of them have correctly predicted anything, and since history is so full of global warming and global freezing scares. This uncertainty I have also applies to all natural phenomena, including the formation of the Universe and the manifestation of self-replicating molecules (life forms).This is my answer.

I am ignorant, because I was taught in the old days that the method of science didn't include preferential data selection and consensus, but repeatable results and laboratory proofs.

I am bundled up for the night (really cold here in California), wondering why the 1930's were warmer in the US and why the hurricanes aren't getting worse. (I'm more confident in my understanding of how antibiotic resistant bacteria have developed.)

Please inform me as to which of the many global warming computer models is the One True Science. Thank you.

And remember, we must all stop ManBearPig.

Answer 9

We have cut down much of the Earths capacity to soak up and store carbon in the forests and we have dug up millions of years worth of stored carbon and burned it. We know that the greenhouse effect keeps the Earth warm and by increasing the concentration of the greenhouse gases the warming effect will be increased.

Answer 10

man wasn't even around the last time the ice caps melted down forming the great lakes,, the grand canyon, the Mississippi River Etc.(must have been the dinosaur doo ) As far as evoulotion we see it every day with new strains of old viruses that evolve and become resistant to medicines. As far as Origins .. on the 1st day God created the heavens and the earth