And how come it didn't predict that a pervert named Paul would come along and render the messiah's doctrine into pablum and take it to the gentiles?
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2007-12-27 06:24:09 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
If you mean the Torah, the Torah does have messianic prophecies. Jesus doesn't fit any of them.
Most of what Christians interpret to be messianic prophecies about Jesus are not messianic prophecies and are poorly interpreted.
That's why the Jews "don't buy it." If you read the Torah from the Jewish perspective/interpretation rather than the Christian one, you'd see why. They actually have a sounder argument for why Jesus could not have been the messiah than the Christians have that he was, IMO.
Personally, though, I don't believe there is a messiah coming. I think it's all mythology.
2007-12-27 06:29:33 · answer #1 · answered by MSB 7 · 2⤊ 5⤋
I love it when Muslims come on here and try to say something ridiculous like Paul was a pervert.
You have obviously not read the Bible. And yet your "holy" book says that Jesus was an honest, holy prophet. So why not read a book that was written about Him by His closest friends and people who followed Him?
Salvation is from God and comes only through the saving work of Jesus Christ. When we put our faith in Him, we may be saved (see John 3:16–21,31–36).
And God had every intention of saving the Gentiles along with the Jews from the very beginning. "I will also make you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth." (Isaiah 49:6)
2007-12-27 06:39:32 · answer #2 · answered by Theresa N 4 · 2⤊ 0⤋
It does. He will come into his own and will be rejected by them and crucified by them. Where have you been anyway? Christ dealt with the gentiles fairly. He healed many. He spoke to a Samaritan. He knew the Jewish people would reject the Gentiles. He sent a vision to Peter. Peter James and John made up the 1st presidency of the church. Peter knew when he received this that the gospel was to be spread first to the Jews and then the Gentiles. Paul on the Sabboth preached in synagogues. He was not as successful as he was with the gentiles, so he spent much of his time preaching to the gentiles, but also always carried his message to the Jews.
2007-12-27 06:31:34 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Isaiah 53 vs 5 and 6 does predict the messiah and the purpose for which He came"he was pierced for our transgressions ....And the the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. The Torah does predict the Hebrews and the Jews would reject the Messiah because the Hebrews and the Jews Where looking for a Great Military Leader who would defeat the enemies of the Jews. Paul was not a pervert because came to bring the promise of Gods word That we all should accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior.
as our Lord and Savior.
2007-12-27 13:22:23 · answer #4 · answered by topcat 1 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Wow! All day I've had people tell me that Paul was a pervert and a liar. I ask for a reference, get a thumbs down. It didn't predict that the chosen ones wouldn't buy it? I suppose the Apocalypse must be something else then. I guess predicting that many of his chosen people would reject him (just like when they killed Jesus) was in a different Bible. Can I read yours?
2007-12-27 06:31:51 · answer #5 · answered by Buddy_Lee_Hombre_de_accion 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
How long will you mock God? The Bible DOES prophecy about you and people LIKE you, that in the last days mockers would arise.
It's is obvious from your question that you have never even read the Bible.
If Paul was a pervert, then so was Luke, because Luke wrote about Paul's conversion.
If Luke was a pervert, then so was John, because John gave us the same doctrine as Paul did.
In fact, that would even make Jesus a pervert because Paul only amplified on what Jesus already said, though I don't know why you use "pervert", when none of them have ever attacked any innocent children. Or is "pervert" on your brain?
2007-12-27 06:29:48 · answer #6 · answered by no1home2day 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
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2016-11-25 20:03:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Bible predicted a Messiah, but the idea that Jesus was the Messiah is based on distortions of these prophecies, some of which were not even issued as prophecies to begin with!
2007-12-27 06:30:41 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
Isaiah 53 tells of a suffering servant, who atones for the sin of many, doing God's will, yet getting rejected and despised and handed over for execution. It speaks of the rejection and unbelief of the people...
Isaiah 53:1 "Who has believed our message.."
Isaiah 53:3-4 "He was despised and rejected by men..."
Zechariah 12:10 ? "They will look on the one they pierced and mourn" (prophecy regarding 2nd coming)
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Where's your evidence that Paul was a pervert? What he was, before he converted , was a violent murderous zealot for the traditions of the Jewish Establishment, so he went around in both Judaea and into Syria bringing christians to jail and punishment. When he converted he became a man of peace, but was often attacked for the salvation message Jesus called him to preach. Because of his loyalty to Jews he took this message to them first in towns he went to.
Compare him to Mohammed, who got more violent, killing 100s (probably 1000s actually) to establish his belief in himself as ruler of Hijaz Arabs and messenger of Allah, and married a child and probably had sex with her before she reached the age of 10. Paul's life shows the repentance that God requires.
2007-12-27 06:33:13 · answer #9 · answered by Cader and Glyder scrambler 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Jesus does not fit the prophecy and therefore is not hte messiah. Read the Torah!
2007-12-27 08:56:40 · answer #10 · answered by Yenta 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋