Does anybody else agree that the people on the mental health forum.....?

Question

need to quit blaming an over rated illness on their own downfalls and say what it really is? Excuses to get away with irresponsible behavior while the drug companies and quacks get richer.

here it goes...i will be reported for telling the truth

notice that the nurses and doctors disagree

Answer 1

i agree with you...how many people are diagnosed as bipolar these days...tons. i know two people who were diagnosed as bipolar that are just plain druggies and now they have an excuse for being that way...i also know one guy that is truly bipolar and it is a very serious disease for him. those other two guys need to just call it what it is so that people who are truly ill can be taken seriously

Answer 2

I think the problem here is that you are confusing a number of different things. As a result of this confusion, you have come up with the idea that people are not really suffering and could just 'pull themselves together'. This is inaccurate.

It is absolutely true that the pharmaceutical companies have medicalised a good deal of human experience. But they have only been able to do this because our society has developed some bizarre idea that one should be able to be happy, confident, with a zest for life ALL THE TIME!!! How mad can that be? We all get anxious, shy, self-critical or something. If we start to believe there is something wrong with anyone who has any non-conventional thought, feels less than happy or whatever, it's not surprising that the drug companies get in on the act. This perpetuates the misapprehension that psychological difficulties are all about 'chemical imbalances in the brain' - a pernicious idea that leads people to think they have no psychological and emotional responsibility for themselves.

So - yes, people do need to take responsibility for themselves. People do need to acknowledge that they have problems which need to be addressed. BUT it is grossly unfair to accuse people of simply behaving irresponsibly. You seem not to understand the very serious suffering of many people. If you FEEL that you are, for example, being criticised and attacked by others all the time, it is absolutely no help to be told you are wrong!! That just adds to the sense of being attacked. The actual experience IS of being attacked. I think you are failing to recognise that only 10% of us, at most, is rational. The rest is that weird, complex, psychological aspect of ourselves, which results in our emotions, our creativity, our inspiration, the possibility of love, etc.

Answer 3

I guess you have a right to your opinion but it's pretty clear that you don't know much about the topic.

Even people with mental illnesses have to take responsibility for their own behavior.

Drug companies and quacks are aware that the root of mental illness is a chemical imbalance in the brain and it can be treated not cured with the right medications.

I'm guessing someone in your life is being extremely annoying and blaming it on a mental illness....maybe because this person is untreated.

If the forum annoys you, you're under no obligation to keep coming back.

Answer 4

I agree with you. There are people out there that have no business being on drugs for a 'mental' disorder they do not have. Most of these people simply don't want to face their problems like a real adult, and therefore claim they have a 'mental disorder'.

For example, if I get a credit card, and run up a debt that's more than I can pay, I'm of course going to be depressed about the situation, that doesn't mean you have a mental disorder concerning depression.

Here's another example, I have a nephew that the school he attends wanted to put him on a drug to 'make' him pay attention. My sister and bro-in-law fought the school on the issue. The school got upset and called in a 3rd party physiologist. After the psychologist was finished, they said my nephew was in a much more advanced level than his 3rd grade peers. The solution was to bump him up a grade and the problem went away. People are TOO QUICK to turn to drugs. They are not the solution!

Answer 5

Be thankful that you are so healthy... Perhaps you ought to do research and learn the truth about mental illness.
Their own downfalls? That is quite a judge mental statement. People do not choose to have a mental illness. This is what you are implying, which makes you seem ignorant.
Be careful not to assume when especially you are obviously uneducated on the subject.

Answer 6

No...I'm not a nurse and I completely disagree. People on the Mental Health boards are in general trying to figure out what the matter is.
How does this have anything to do with drug companies? Usually people just need help!

Answer 7

wow, im sorry to put it this way but your ignorant, completly and utterly ignorant, YES there are a FEW people out there who blame the way they feel on stuff and its not true. BUT having a mental disorder is very serious and possibly life threatening. How would u feel one day ur friend comes up to u and says shes depressed, u blow it of and say its bull, and the next day maybe she wont be around.......the point is, if someone says they are depressed and feeling this way, you take it seriously even if they dont mean it, because the one time u dont take it seriously, the person may have really needed your help, o and just to add im not a doctor or a nurse, nor have i ever liked a docter i hate them, but at one point i felt very depressed and no one believed me and it made it worse, and when a really good friend finally did listen and heled me it made a world of difference

Answer 8

Of course each person is responsible for his or her own thoughts and actions, as long as the person has a brain that is physically intact and functioning properly.

Some aspects of your question suggest that the person posting the question has been brainwashed by the Scientologists, who pose as a form of religion, but are actually a racket, a form of organized crime, that separates the people upon whom they prey from their money. In Germany, the government has found Scientology to be a racket and a form of organized crime, and Scientology was recently banned in Germany. The same should be done in the rest of the world.

I'm sure the person who posted this question will agree that neurological impairment, whether due to toxins or structural damage to brain tissue, can cause a person's reality testing to become impaired. The most readily observable proof of this is to witness someone who is drunk or who has dementia due to Alzheimer's disease or strokes. Certainly, these persons are victims of a physical disease and do not suffer impaired function through their own irresponsible choices.

The question seems to presume that there is no such thing as an impairment that occurs without any known intoxication or structural lesion in the brain or nervous system, but such impairments definitely do occur. These are called functional disorders, since there is a disturbance of function without intoxication or anatomic change.

The most common severe and disabling functional disorders are schizophrenia and bipolar disorder (manic-depressive disorder), but there are others. The victims of these disorders, through no fault of their own, have disordered and disorganized thinking, may have powerful delusions and/or hallucinations, and can have severely regressed behavior. This is not irresponsible behavior on the part of those who suffer from such illnesses, not a choice, and not something that can be improved or reversed through the exercise of will.

Drug companies are in business to make money, and I'll readily admit that they make a lot of money. However, they make money because they offer products that have been extensively tested, have been found to be effective and generally safe, and because their products work, they have real value. It is inappropriate to disparage pharmaceutical companies simply because they are profitable: to do so belies their very real value and service to humanity. The pharmaceutical products used in treating persons with mental illnesses have been proven beyond any possibility of doubt to shorten the length and severity of the mental illnesses, and to help prevent relapses.

It also reflects poorly on the troll who posted this question to label as quacks those sincere and dedicated professionals who have spent years learning how to treat ill patients, including mentally ill patients. There have always been and will always be charlatans and quacks, but you will find that those who hold medical degrees have no tolerance for charlatans and quacks, and the medical licensing boards have no sense of humor at all about physicians who do not properly care for their patients.

The average physician is an intellectually gifted person (average IQ of physicians is above 130) who has spent many years absorbing the knowledge necessary to understand how people work, at every level from chemical reactions to cells to organs to organ systems to a whole body, and even to the complex behavior we all have, and the physician has learned how to help patients deal with disorders and diseases that disrupt function at any level.

So, in summary, I don't agree with the incorrect and irresponsible premises of the troll who asked this question -- not because I'm a physician or health care provider, but simply because the person who posted the question is ignorant and wrong, and chooses to ignore obvious and readily demonstrable facts!

I challenge the troll who posted this question to provide any meaningful basis based upon real or solid evidence for anything asserted in the question. The ball is back in the troll's side of the court!

Answer 9

whilst in comparison with their suing people for publishing their supplies it quite is much less significant. And the undercover character assassination, each and all the front companies, the way they use people who're being punished as slave worker's... it quite is nonetheless incorrect, yet they do different issues that are plenty worse. edit: Fart, it regularly starts with people suggesting you do a "character attempt" with them, without revealing everywhere that they are Scientology. maximum individuals have not got any thought what they're entering into.

Answer 10

Wow, no offense but it sounds like you have no clue what all mental disorders involve.
There are many reasons these things could happen and some of it does have to do with factors such as life circumstances.
Some mental disorders do require medications.
I do think that Psychiatrist do over prescribe some of these medications though, I do agree there.

Answer 11

no i dont.
mental illness is not just to do with how you feel.
it is imbalance in your brain.
people with brain injuries, strokes can and do suffer with mental illness does that mean these people have this overrated illness you mention??
the irresponsible behaviour is because they are ill not becasue they feel like a few months off work or to pay the 'quaks' wages. there is alot of stigma attached to mental illness and you have demonstrated one of them.
Psychiatry is not about blaming the illness it is about dealing with it so it doesnt become an 'overated illness'.
Mental health is just like having a wound only that you can soo the wound treat it and watch it heal. mental health you cannot but just becasue you cannot see it doesnt mean its not there and it affects so many people all in different ways which you describe as irresponsible behaviour.

Take care
xxx