R&S and LGBT question?

Question

OK, I don't quite know how to phrase this so please bear with me if I ramble or get a bit confusing.

My fiance is Roman Catholic, though he doesn't practise and hasn't been to church since he was a child. He wants to start going to church and doing Bible studies. I really want to support him with this and he's asked me to go with him, the only problem is that I'm a bisexual, Wiccan female, and hate it when I hear people saying that homosexuals and anyone that doesn't beleive in the Christian God will go to Hell and are evil disgusting people, I ALWAYS want to fight back and defend my beleifs and the rights of homosexuals, I'd be fine during Mass because I'm not about to stand up in the middle of churc and start arguing with the priest, but during Bible studies if someone starts going on about homosexuals being depraved and disgusting or Pagans being evil I know I'll want to go at it with them, so... my question is, should I just shut my mouth if something like this happens, or fight

for my beliefs?

Thanx for answering, i know its a long post

Thank you everyone for your input so far, i'd just like to address a few points that were raised:
I want to go with my fiance because he has supported me in my beliefs and would like to return that favor, also, he is a bit nervous and has no one else that he could go with.
He is hetero and we are monogamous, I say I am bi because i have been in serious relationships with both males and females before and have loved members of both sexes I am engaged to my fiance because i want to spend the rest of my life with him.
I am sorry if I offended anyone, I didn't mean to imply that the members of the Bible study group would sit around ranting about homosexuals and Pagans, I just wanted advice on how to deal with it if the situation came up, and i would not get "aggro" while explaining my beleifs, i guess i phrased that badly, like i said i wasn't sure exactly how to ask this.

Oh yeah, and Pagan Pie Princess, we've decided on a civil ceremony for the wedding!

Answer 1

You have every right to defend your beliefs and sexuality against those who are so bigoted as to condemn you. They'll do it hatefully, so if I were you, I'd take the high road and get my point across as nicely as I could. It'll shame them if they have a conscious, and you come out the victor.

Answer 2

Simply put - Christians believe the Bible is the word of God. Whether that's right or whether that's wrong - that's what Christianity is. And the Bible unequivocally says over and over that homosexuality is wrong.

Having said that, far be it from me to tell anybody to "sit there and take it". Maybe it's not always wise to "fight back" every single time one is challenged but there always comes a time where one can not keep silent any further and needs to stand their ground to defend their beliefs.

So, if you do "fight back" during the Bible Study, you need to be prepared with more than "I think" and "I feel" because this will not be a "think" and "feel" class - this is a Bible study class. We Christians submit to the Bible as the final authority. You will need to have Biblical support for your arguments. When you think about it, anything else would be akin to arguing "Finders-Keepers" in a court of law.

Let me assure you, though, that not all Christians think homosexuals and bisexuals are "evil disgusting people". We are ALL sinners of some sort. As the Bible says, anybody that believes different is deceiving themselves. We also believe that God's love and grace is greater than one's propensity to sin, so nobody is "doomed to Hell" based on sin alone, only if their actions are unrepenetent and they are not in God's grace at the time of passing.

(That's a long winded way of saying "Maybe", isn't it?)

Answer 3

I understand where you're coming from. So I'll just say this.
Yes, the church does hold rather strict veiws on paganism and homosexuality, but you don't have to attend with your fiance, and you don't have to put yourself in a position of defence.
It's an individuals right to believe what they want, even if that belief is offensive to others. As a wiccan, you above all others should know that part of our path is understanding and allowing others to walk their own path.
Also, relationships between differring religions can and do work, there just has to be good and open communication.

I wish you and your fiance well in the future.

Answer 4

Its simple, just tell u friend the truth. Let him know up front how u feel and what a stress it would put on u.

Then another thing u should talk about is "Are u really a good match?" Maybe the two of u do not belong together with such differences.

Or u could convert and become a hetrosexual Roman Catholic.

Answer 5

Let your finance know what your beliefs are. You can still support him but tell him of your concerns. If you go and you're uncomfortable in the situation, tell him it's not your thing.

It sounds like there is a difference in religious beliefs and this issue may come up again in future when you're married. You might as well address it and create a solid ground before you get married so that there is mutual respect and understanding of each other's religious views.

Answer 6

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." [Attributed to Edmund Burke]

Not speaking out against bigotry is tantamount to tacit approval, so I would say something, but then I've never put popularity before ethics. Please don't take that the wrong way. I just mean that you might decide it's more important to keep the peace, as it were, and it's your call to make since you'll have to deal with the possible consequences. By the way, I've known catholics who're very progressive, so your concerns might be unfounded.
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Answer 7

The bible says to be sure that your sins will found you out. You don't even have to say anything, & a True Christian can sense that spirit about you, going to a catholic church is no more then going to K-mart. I am not a Catholic But a True born again Christain by experince & not by denomination, in fact I am not in any denomintions, My church is Non denominations. I don't say these things to pick on you or anyone, But Truth is truth & no one, Not even myself can change the truth, A True Christain will not be a bisexual, nor homosexual or lesbians, But Yes they can be saved & delivered from this sin.

Answer 8

Well stating your married and yet bisexual kind of hints at you practice that lifestyle. If so I must be honest it will be contradictory of most religions I know of. Within religion a marriage is committing to that other person entirely. Allowing the walls to go down and sharing what is inside almost like squeezing two homes together to have a larger more beautiful one. I see your concern but you must recognize a religion's concern as well. I think you should not fight but seek to understand within yourself and others including and religion you may chose. Just remember almost anyone who becomes religious have had great problems in their life to if not in the past, in the current and or future. They key is striving to understand and do better, don't let anything or anyone hold you back on doing that.

Answer 9

I see! And getting married is going to make this all go away? Or are you going to consign yourself to arguing with anyone who goes to Bible study with your husband with those sets of beliefs?

Your beliefs about those who think that other people are sinners . . . not themselves but 'other people', I agree with you. We are all sinners and need the grace of God. Not all are chosen by God though, so would you ever think yourself desiring to be with God and to know God?

If not then aren't you just asking for it?

Does not the Wiccan beliefs include any call for wisdom? Where is wisdom in all of this?

I am not a Roman Catholic, and will never be one. I know that they themselves practice pagan worship, they just don't call it that, and they are Roman Catholics because they do not recognize it as such. But what good will it do to try to convince your fiance that his wonderful brand of Christianity embraces idols and sorcery of its own?

It sounds to me like you two are not a match.

Answer 10

honey, I think you have misunderstood what the Catholic church teaches. Go and discuss this with the priest and see what he says. When you know what the church actually says, you might be the one to correct people in a bible study who themselves don't know! God bless!

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