I have been given to understand that our relationship to the apes has been "proven"...evidently, the fact that our dna is very similar is "proof positive".
We share a common ancestor, or so I've been told.
I am wondering...has anyone ever located any evidence of this common ancestor? Any fossilized remains, perhaps?
Yes, I know...fossils are quite rare, etc.. Whenever someone asks where are the fossils that prove this or that, we are told about how rare the conditions that form fossils are...
And yet, there seem to be all sorts of them.
Evidently, however, this common ancestor has been "proven" to have existed. I mean, how can you doubt it?
Super computers have mapped out his genomes, and everything!!
Hey...maybe it's Bigfoot!!
2007-12-26
13:13:21
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My point is, that even though this deadbeat dad has kept himself very well hidden, lots of people are willing to take his existence as fact, because a computer program says it must be so?
And yet, these same people can't accept God, because they can't see Him??
Perhaps the "logic and reason" is over my poor brainwashed Christian mind....
2007-12-26
13:17:08 ·
update #1
Thank you, Vishal and Gorgeous for providing me with links to sites where I can see for myself our missing ancestor...
But wait!
According to Vishal's link, Science Daily reports that Eosimias, our ancient ancestor, was discoverd in China.
But Gorgeous's link for the National Geographic places our ancestor, Pierolapithecus catalaunicus, in Spain...
Erm...I'm a bit confused, here. These two specimens don't seem to have very much in common...ahhh...well...
Seems there are a few more branches in the old family tree than we first imagined, eh??
2007-12-26
14:34:45 ·
update #2
I want to thank everyone who answered, and apologize for my sarcasm...but sarcasm does tend to elicit more responses than a straight-forward question, I'm sorry to say.
From the reading I've done, it does seem as if we share similar dna with several species, and the notion that there were some common illnesses that left their mark on similar creatures really isn't solid enough evidence to constitute "proof".
While Vishal and Gorgeous's links were both very informative, I still don't see enough evidence to constitute "proof" of anything other than that these are fossils of similar creatures that are now extinct.
It's been over a century now, and still evolutionists have not found enough empirical evidence to prove their theory.
Having said that, let me hasten to add that I can accept evolution as a possibility, and I have no problem with it being taught in schools.
Teach the "Big Bang Theory", that's fine, I still don't mind...
Just don't teach them as "facts"....
2007-12-27
03:42:45 ·
update #3
And don't tell my children that science is a replacement for God, or that God is an outdated concept.
Let the teachers teach what they were hired to teach, nothing more, and nothing less...
And let them keep their OPINIONS about religion to themselves.
That would be enough to satisfy this Christian.
After all, we were taught this same stuff 50 years ago, when there were still prayers coming over the intercom in the morning, and nobody minded. God and science co-existed quite well in the classroom.
God has no problem with science...after all, He invented it...
2007-12-27
03:47:45 ·
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We have found fossils of common ancestors of humans and apes. They were found in China.
The fossilized remains described in the article below were discovered seven years ago and are the ancestors of both humans and monkeys.
"We have the first unambiguous evidence that is able to bridge the anatomical gap between lower and higher primates."
-Paleontologist Dan Gebo, professor of anthropology at Northern Illinois University
2007-12-26 13:17:58
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answered by Anonymous
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This is incredibly easy to look up. How much time out of your life would it take to gain a basic, true understanding of the science around evolution?? Should you not know what you are attacking so as not to bear false witness, whether stated or implied or repeated from another liar??
Because yes, there are several fossil candidates for the ape common ancestor, all of around the same age, and concordant with genetic clock evidence. The history of life on earth is a branching bush - read the links - not linear. So picking which of the fossils, if any, is the common ancestor of all todays apes and humans is a matter of interpretation. One may be, but logically none need necessarily be our common ancestor - they may all be contemporary cousin species to our common ancestor. But their existence is in the very least strong evidence of the path the branching tree took. Not that any fossils are needed - the forensic retrovirus dna evidence and etc is more than evidence enough. No, not just "similarity" in dna - I'll find you a link for that too although I strongly suspect I am wasting my time.
2007-12-27 02:17:53
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answered by Anonymous
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I'm a Christian, but I am also willing to believe that evolution is the way God created life on the planet...... and the universe to begin with.
The Christian religion was based on the Old Testament, and as you know Jesus came not only to save our souls but He revolutionalized the religion and completely transformed it from the Jewish traditions.
Therefore,the Old Testament, is to me nothing more than Jewish history and folklore. The old stories cannot be taken literally, if one would then the earth could not be as old as it is and one would have to explain dinosaurs and other evidence against the story of Genesis.
If Jesus walked amongst us today I firmly believe He would explain to us how humans received a soul and branched from the tree of life, who our ancestors were and explain science to us. Talking to people about DNA 2000 or more years ago would have been just as lost as it was to the OJ jury.
There is absolutely no reason to assume this is all there is. What we have in the universe, and on this small planet of ours, is something so unbelievable that I have no doubt there is something else more unbelievable hidden from us, all of
God's infinite wisdom, energy, and power manifesting itself as the universe and beyond.
To me all the natural sciences are a fantastic way to explore the creativity and the unbelievable genius of God. We have yet to unlock the secrets of our brains to understand why so many of us are aware of the presence of God.
So for me I don't need more old bones, I believe in the evidence of fossiles and the unrefutable evidence in the genomes which read like a universal code to explain the tree of life.
Trace evidence is good enough to send people to death row, no dead body has to be present. So why cannot logically thinking people also believe in the evolutionary tree of life even if the whole tree is not presented to make the case?
2007-12-26 23:02:46
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answered by realme 5
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Fossils are great evidence, but we would still be sure that we're a species of ape, related to other apes and all other living organisms, even without the fossil evidence. Here's one line of evidence:
A substantial proportion of the human genome is relic DNA from retroviruses - genetic code which became fixed in our germline DNA from infections millions of years ago. By comparing our genome with that of other species, we can see that some of these insertions are relatively recent (within the last 5 million years) and so are only found in humans. Others which occurred longer ago are found in the same place in both human and chimpanzee DNA, demonstrating that the incorporation happened in a common ancestor before the evolutionary divergence of chimps and humans. Others occurred tens of millions of years earlier still, and are present in 'old world' monkeys and apes (including humans), but not in 'new world' monkeys, demonstrating that the virus found its way into the genes after old and new world monkeys diverged but before apes evolved.
There is no way to account for this kind of evidence other than that all organisms including humans are related by common descent.
2007-12-26 21:42:36
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answered by Anonymous
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There is a 75% genetic similarity between human DNA and that of nematode worms, but this does not mean that humans are 75% worm or that there is only a 25% difference between the two. The similarity between humans and chimpanzees therefore constitutes no evidence for evolution
Evolution A to Z
http://www.darwinistsneverrealize.com/
http://www.askdarwinists.com/
http://www.fossil-museum.com/
http://www.darwinism-watch.com/
http://www.evolutiondeceit.com/
http://www.evolutiondocumentary.com/
http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/
http://www.darwinismthegreatestlieinhistory.com/
http://www.whydarwinwaswrong.com/
http://www.detailsofdarwinistforgeries.com/
http://www.bewareofdarwinistfalsehoods.com/
http://www.famousdarwinistdeceptions.com/
http://www.religionofdarwinism.com/
http://www.evidencesofcreation.com/
http://www.thestoneage.org/
http://www.living-fossils.com/
http://www.evolutiontale.com/
http://www.nationalacademyofsciencesrefuted.com/
http://www.harunyahya.com/c_refutation_darwinism.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/books/darwinism/cambrian/cambrian1.php
http://www.harunyahya.com/books/darwinism/evolution_50themes/50evolution02.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4khUBCzmMs8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5sfHz3xyNc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-_BDLNfcOc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slJ1ZINQBfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv6uejxOugI
2007-12-27 06:09:27
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answered by nooru 3
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A bumper sticker my husband made on his car:
"The Theory of Evolution" A disproven religion taught by fraud and deception.
Check out this site below! I know you would really love it. Dr. Hovind has put his whole life in this subject and he believes in Creationism.
"CSE (Creation Science Evangelism) has become a trusted source of information in the creation versus evolution debate." Here you will find all sorts of answers. I learned so much, it is just too much to share here. I even ordered his video set and have learned so much. Viewing all the evidence he presence before you, it makes any evolutionist realize the truth.
People will create any lie to make themselves believe there is no God.
2007-12-27 02:20:39
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You wanted a transitional species, here you have it.
Pierolapithecus Catalaunicus
November 18, 2004
In Spain scientists have discovered 13-million-year-old fossils of new species of ape. The species may have been the last common ancestor of humans and all great apes living today. (See pictures of the new ape species.)
The great apes—which later gave rise to humans and which now include orangutans, chimpanzees, and gorillas—are thought to have diverged from the lesser apes about 11 to 16 million years ago. Today's lesser apes include the gibbons.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/11/1118_041118_ape_human_ancestor.html
2007-12-26 21:25:35
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answered by Gorgeoustxwoman2013 7
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I have a question for you. Why do you block those people who this question is directed at? Are you afraid of solid answers? Isn't that rather dishonest? You would be better served to open your mind and read some books. By the way, modern science has advanced far beyond Darwin.
2007-12-26 21:28:40
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answered by Anonymous
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A computer looking at common retroviral and intron sequences can make such determinations. Yours is the fallacy "argument from incredulity".
2007-12-26 21:20:13
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answered by neil s 7
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Darwin's theory of evolution is a THEORY of evolution. It is not limited to evolution from apes. It is not based on fossilized monkey's. It is the "notion that all life is related and descended for a common ancestor." Please read the whole theory. I read the whole Bible.
2007-12-26 21:26:01
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answered by Blame Amy 5
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