In this section I see people saying all the time that we (Americans) can't blame illegals for overstaying their visas or coming here legally because they are just coming here to work hard, make money, and don't want to stay forever. To me this is ridiculous. Why is it America's responsibility to let everyone else make money and leave here? Why should America support anyone coming here that does not want to be AMERICAN? I'm not saying that people should forget where they come from, but I do believe that people should immigrate to a new country with the intention of becoming a part of that country.
Agree? Disagree? Why or why not?
2007-12-23
08:38:38
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Politics & Government
➔ Immigration
*I meant coming here illegally*
2007-12-23
08:42:04 ·
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Cute Sexy Sadi... move to Mexico please, seeing as you already said you want to. I'll stay here supporting my coutry while my husband fights for freedom and does what he is called to do.
2007-12-23
08:45:27 ·
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Mando- Um, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of illegals that do not learn the language, and send all their money back to the country in which they came. That's not being a prodective member of society. If they wanted to truly be American, the would go through the LEGAL process of becoming so.
2007-12-23
08:55:07 ·
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I couldn't agree more! If people want to be rich, they need to get a real job and work their way up the ladder. It's not our problem that they were born in a low class family in a crummy low class country. I have had to sleep in my car because I didn't have a home nor a job but I worked myself up and our of that way of life and now I own a business. I've never wanted to be rich but I did want to be able to live without having to get help from others and that's the way it is now. I stick my nose in the air to the rich and the poor cause it's their own fault they live like they do. I'm not talking about the physically handicapped but rather the true lazy people who are capable of working for a living.
2007-12-23 09:11:13
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answered by Anonymous
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I don't agree with Conservative, but at least I can respect his answer. Too much of the debate over illegal immigration is based on emotions instead of details. I'll admit that I don't know a ton about the problem, but I think if people from Mexico just want to earn money and then go back than maybe we should make it easier for them to earn money in their own country. Mexico is a place where companies send their manufacturing jobs because the labor is cheaper (I think ). Maybe the Mexican government should tax those companies and use the money to help its own citizens.
2007-12-23 10:09:45
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answered by blondeboch 2
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Whoever told you America is making people rich (except for those who are already rich) was lying to you.
The people who come here illegally are NOT being made rich. They're paid nearly nothing for their very hard labor, which is why you can afford to eat.
If you had to pay for produce and meat, that had been produced at American-level wages, you wouldn't be able to eat more than a couple of times a month.
The people who come here to work contribute more than they take by far.
The people being made rich from all this are the employers of illegals. They pay almost nothing, and keep all the profit.
What would make sense would be to make it legal to come here and take jobs no one else will. They do it so their families won't starve to death. Can you really blame them?
Since they live in an impoverished country, that is, they live there part time, their families are there all the time, a little of our money goes a really long way there, much further than here.
They're not being made rich. The people who hire them are, and you're able to put food on your table.
Chicken at $30/lb would put it out of the reach of nearly everyone.
2007-12-23 10:04:44
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answered by tehabwa 7
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I agree with what you are saying, but the short answer to your question is that the U. S. of A. is the ONLY country on earth that can do that. Of all the hundreds of countries on earth, there is only one out there that does NOT owe the U.S. money. Russia, Red China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, all of them owe us money.
2007-12-23 09:39:28
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answered by Nothingusefullearnedinschool 7
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oh think yourselves lucky , you have quite a strict restrain on ppl coming into your country, try living in the UK and it would really pis*s you off, we have so many ppl come here cause we are the richest country (meaning that our money is worth the most) and then pis*sing off back home it is a joke.
or most of the time they stay here and live the life of riley
ppl aint gonna like this post but i'm past caring to be honest
2007-12-23 08:46:05
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answered by Anonymous
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AGREE 100% - I am SOOOOOOOOO tired of being blamed for the fact that we have 30+ million illegal alien criminals in this country. Excuse me but they weren't forced to come here! They came by choice.
2007-12-23 08:44:53
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answered by Anonymous
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The issue of illegal immigration is complicated. While it is not our job to make Mexicans rich, the negative economic impact of NAFTA on Mexican farmers and laborers has been significant. For example, US corn farmers have been able to dump subsidized corn into the Mexican market without the consequence of tariffs. Because the product is subsidized by the US government, the farmers have been able to sell it cheaply. As a result, over a million Mexican corn farmers have been put out of business. What would you have them do? It is the interference of our government programs that cost them their livelihood.
2007-12-23 08:55:59
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answered by yakngirl 5
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Excellent point. Open borders + welfare state = disaster.
2007-12-23 08:42:59
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answered by Ellis Wyatt 5
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"ditto" Conservative's answer
2007-12-23 08:44:37
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answered by bill 2
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By draining public funds, creating unfair competition for jobs with America’s least prepared workers and thereby lowering wages and working conditions, and by imposing unwanted strains on services designed to provide assistance to Americans, illegal immigration causes harm to Americans and legal residents.
Illegal aliens' numbers are large and growing.
FAIR estimates there are between 10-12 million illegal aliens residing in the country in 2005. According to the Census Bureau, there were an estimated 8.7 million illegal aliens living in the United States in 2000. According to the Migration Policy Institute, roughly 500,000 illegal aliens are added to that population every year. The immigration authorities also estimate that there are over one million temporary illegal aliens, such as seasonal workers, here at any given time. The population of illegal aliens would be higher, but in 1986 our government gave amnesty to nearly three million illegal aliens, allowing them to become legal members of our society, and we have allowed additional millions to gain amnesty through other loopholes.
Illegal immigration undermines legal immigration.
There is a list of several million eligible people waiting to be legally admitted as immigrants to our country; some of them have been on that list for many years waiting for one of the numerically limited visas to become available. Illegal immigration makes a mockery of those people's adherence to the rules and of our country's sovereignty.
Illegal immigration harms the American workforce.
According to a study in 1996 of the costs of illegal immigration by Rice Univ. economist, Dr. Donald Huddle, illegal aliens were displacing roughly 730,000 American workers every year, at a cost of about $4.3 billion a year, and the supply of cheap labor depresses the wages and working conditions of the working poor. The approximate doubling of the illegal alien population since the time of that estimate means that the number of jobs lost to American workers and the costs of displacement would also likely have more than doubled.
Illegal immigration is a burden on the taxpayer.
The costs of illegal immigration to the taxpayer are numerous, but the largest costs are education of their children, emergency medical care and incarceration for those arrested for crimes. Despite being ineligible, some illegal aliens also get welfare the same way they get jobs: with identity documents falsely identifying them as U.S. citizens. In addition, if they have U.S.-born children, they may collect welfare assistance in the name of those children. The annual net cost of illegal immigrants (after subtracting their tax payments) to the American taxpayer is likely to be more than $45 billion. Our recent study of the net fiscal “Costs of illegal immigration to Californians” estimated the partial costs at $10.5 billion in that state alone.
The number of deportations is low.
Compared to the size of the illegal alien population, the number of annual deportations is shockingly small. In fiscal year 2003, only 186,151 aliens were formerly removed.1 Many of the deportees are caught by the police after they have committed a crime. In FY’03, 39,600 of the deported aliens fell in that category. The federal Bureau of Prisons estimates that nearly three-tenths of its prisoners are aliens.
Recent improvements have not solved the problem.
Although the number of deported illegal aliens is more than triple the average during the 1990s, we are only treading water in a rising tide. The Department of Homeland Security has no plan for identifying and removing the bulk of the illegal alien population, whose number continues to rise. Most illegal aliens remain safe from capture and deportation unless they are arrested for a crime.
Some aspects of INS enforcement are getting worse.
Stung by criticism from companies about worksite raids, often accompanied by criticism from elected representatives, the immigration authorities instituted in 1998 an innovation called "the Phoenix Plan." Instead of raiding a company, they informed it on the basis of a review of employment documents that they appeared to have hired illegal alien workers, giving the companies the opportunity to dismiss the workers. When this happened, the workers were free to simply walk away with their counterfeit identity documents to another employer. The interior immigration inspectors have only the resources to focus on a few large violators at a time, so most illegal alien workers — and the companies that employ them — get off scot-free.
Amnesty is not the answer.
As millions of illegal aliens are allowed to remain here year after year, pressure rises from immigrant advocates to grant them amnesty. But this is the equivalent of pardoning criminals en masse because it is easier than capturing them. It encourages further illegal immigration and, by creating new "legal" immigrants out of old illegal ones, adds dramatically to the backlog of relatives abroad who apply for legal admission. It also adds to the costs to the taxpayer, because when illegal aliens are given legal residence, they become eligible for additional tax-funded services.
2007-12-23 08:41:34
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answered by Anonymous
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