even eat with sinners(ppl who continualy sin not just one or two)or unrepentant sinners such as:
(1Cor5:11-13-11 )But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person.
12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? 13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”
(Numbers16:26-26) And he spoke to the congregation, saying, “Depart now from the tents of these wicked men! Touch nothing of theirs, lest you be consumed in all their sins.”
(Romans16:17-17) Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them.
Now my question is if this is true why is it so wrong?
Oh and by the way JW are supposed to talk with family members................
2007-12-23
08:32:57
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Jehovah's Witnesses who commit a serious sin -- adultery, fornication, homosexuality, drug abuse, drunkenness, lying, stealing -- and do not repent are disfellowshipped. This measure is made to assure the spiritual health and cleanliness of the Christian congregation.
"“If in a Christian’s household there is a disfellowshipped relative, that one would still be part of the normal, day-to-day household dealings and activities.” Thus, it would be left up to members of the family to decide on the extent to which the disfellowshipped family member would be included when eating or engaging in other household activities. And yet, they would not want to give brothers with whom they associate the impression that everything is the same as it was before the disfellowshipping occurred." -- Watchtower of April 15, 1991
"The situation is different if the disfellowshipped or disassociated one is a relative living outside the immediate family circle and home. It might be possible to have almost no contact at all with the relative. Even if there were some family matters requiring contact, this certainly would be kept to a minimum, in line with the divine principle: “Quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person [or guilty of another gross sin], . . . not even eating with such a man.”—1 Corinthians 5:11." -- Watchtower of April 15, 1988
http://www.jw-media.org/vnr/2122827332/311131.htm
http://www.watchtower.org/e/19970101/article_01.htm
2007-12-23 08:59:32
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answered by Alex 5
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Titus Ch 3:
10) As for a man that promotes a sect, reject him
after a first and a second admonition; 11) knowing
that such a man has been turned out of the way and is
sinning, he being self-condemned.
1 Timothy Ch 5:
20) Reprove before all onlookers persons who practice
sin, that the rest also may have fear.
2 John
9) Everyone that pushes ahead and does not remain in
the teaching of the Christ does not have God. He that
does remain in this teaching is the one that has both
the Father and the Son. 10) If anyone comes to YOU and
does not bring this teaching, never receive him into
YOUR homes or say a greeting to him. 11) For he that
says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked
works.
Hebrews Ch 12:
15) carefully watching that no one may be deprived of
the undeserved kindness of God; that no poisonous root
may spring up and cause trouble and that many may not
be defiled by it; 16) that there may be no fornicator
nor anyone not appreciating sacred things, like E´sau,
who in exchange for one meal gave away his rights as
firstborn.
James Ch 5:
14) Is there anyone sick among YOU? Let him call the
older men of the congregation to [him], and let them
pray over him, greasing [him] with oil in the name of
Jehovah. 15) And the prayer of faith will make the
indisposed one well, and Jehovah will raise him up.
Also, if he has committed sins, it will be forgiven
him. 16) Therefore openly confess YOUR sins to one
another and pray for one another, that YOU may get
healed. A righteous man’s supplication, when it is at
work, has much force.
2 Thes Ch. 3:
14) But if anyone is not obedient to our word through
this letter, keep this one marked, stop associating
with him, that he may become ashamed.
Galations Ch 6:
6) Brothers, even though a man takes some false step
before he is aware of it, YOU who have spiritual
qualifications try to readjust such a man in a spirit
of mildness, as you each keep an eye on yourself, for
fear you also may be tempted.
Yours with mine is all the scriptures you need to provide
sufficient proof to any inquiring person that disfellowshiping is a scriptural concept that is approved by Jehovah God as a means of discipline (or correction). Shunning is not a big deal at all when you consider the benefits that result in it. In
reality, other churches should provide their members
with the same form of discipline. When they don't, it only produces bad fruits within the core of individuals that are free from the practice of gross sin. Such individuals are allowed to continue attending the meetings in order to further learn about Jehovah and accept his righteous standards.
2007-12-24 13:38:30
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answered by walterprognosticus 2
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Because they tend to teach the bad things to those still obedient or else may cause them apathy and drifting from the faith. It can become more important for some to hang out with unrighteous persons (even if not taking up the practice) than to continue in true worship and service.
Drawing one into inactivity still accomplishes the same purpose of drawing a servant away from God and his son.
Debbie
2007-12-23 16:43:00
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answered by debbiepittman 7
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There is a time/place when a church is required to step up and disfellowship a member. It is a very grave situation. It is outlined in the Bible clearly. It must be done exactly as it is written. But we must also remember.If a person repents. We are to welcome them back, remembering it no more. God doesn't hold our sins against us for a probationary period. Why should we do that to others? Its nowhere in scripture.
2007-12-23 16:40:34
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answered by paula r 7
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I wrote a letter to disassosciate myself about 24 years ago...they disfelowshipped me to boot...No comittee meeting nothing...I have had no contact with any of my family for all of thoseyears...
My question to you is: Can you see Jesus EVER behaving in such an un-Christian way?
Leave the cult, and search for God.... http://freeminds.org
2007-12-23 21:36:13
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answered by Anonymous
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Perhaps you're thinking like an IBM Mainframe machine. At least I don't presume to understand your question.
2007-12-23 17:04:22
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answered by chris_muriel007 4
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I don't really understand your logic!
The verses you quoted pretty much hit the nail right on the head for me!
I'd suggest reading all those again or rephrasing the question.
Ant...
2007-12-23 16:39:50
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answered by sirantonycartwright 3
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You need to drop all the examples and just ask your question in 5 words or less-maybe then we will understand what you want.
No offense- you question is not clear.
2007-12-23 16:37:33
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answered by Higgy Baby 7
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You've answered your own question...so yes, disfellowshiping is biblical and the early Christians did it, like you said, it's not actually wrong.
2007-12-23 18:15:31
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answered by Paul S 4
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It isn't. Just because someone complains about a decision doesn't make it wrong.
2007-12-26 20:41:13
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answered by Ish Var Lan Salinger 7
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