In a question I asked about three weeks ago, someone wrote, "The Tanakh is VERY specific about how the Jewish people should recognise the real messiah. Specific events must happen and if even ONE of them fails to take place, then we are to assume we are facing a false messiah."
As Christmas is almost here, I've been thinking about this person's answer. My question is, "Which Messianic prophecies were not fulfilled by Jesus of Nazareth, whom the Christians believe to be the Messiah?"
2007-12-23 05:14:54 · 11 answers · asked by The Non-Apologetic Apologist 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
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I certainly hope others are able to give better thought out answers than you did. The website you referred me to uses Bibliomancy (http://www.facade.com/bibliomancy/) rather than scholarship. I'm looking for more of an Acts 17:11 answer ("Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true") rather than some random verse drawn out of the Bible.
2007-12-23 05:34:16 · update #1
And in case it wasn't clear - rather than just saying something like, "the Messiah is to bring peace', please let us know where in the Tanakh the propehcy is found. Rather than take your answer on blind faith, we'd like to be able to look it up for ourselves. Thanks!
2007-12-23 05:37:44 · update #2
Being a practicing Jew (Orthodox), I can tell you with confidence that the following messianic prophecies were not fulfilled by J*sus, as they would be fulfilled by the REAL messiah:
The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
Jews will know the Torah without study (Jeremiah 31:33)[original research?]
He will give you all the worthy desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)
2007-12-23 07:37:07 · answer #1 · answered by kismet 7 · 6⤊ 2⤋
Rather than reinvent the wheel..I'll give you a clever way that lists the JOB DESCRIPTION of Messiah ( and the qualifications for the job from the Tanakh) and notes whether or not Jesus fulfilled each one..one by one.
http://www.messiahtruth.com/wanted.html
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
EDIT: It appears to me you're looking more for someone to agree with you than you are looking for the specific prophecies regarding the Davidic Messiah. I say this because I went to look at your previous question. Considering the question you directly refer to as inspiring this one gave rise to paperback's "best answer" which gave direct Biblical references to many specific prophecies that Jesus did not fulfill, this question appears disingenuous. You asserted her link made strawman fallacy of the New Testament as your reason for discounting it. It is obvious you did not look up the direct Biblical references the Rabbi specifically invited people to investigate in context, nor did you provide evidence to your strawman fallacy claim.
If I were to gamble..I'd bet the factually correct answer here isn't what you're aiming for, but an amen corner appearance.
2007-12-23 07:43:45 · answer #2 · answered by ✡mama pajama✡ 7 · 7⤊ 1⤋
I suspect that may be my post you are quoting from :)
Jesus did not fulfill ANY of the things that the Tanakh says the real messiah will.
- he did not usher in world peace
- he did not rebuild the temple
- he did not shun magic and miracles
In addition, the Tanakh makes it clear that the real messiah will be a human being - he/she will NOT be part divine, not be G-d incarnate in flesh. This very notion is heresy in Judaism.
The Tanakh says also that the real messiah will accomplish everything in one normal human lifetime - no second chances, no second comings.
Clearly then, Jesus could not possibly have been the messiah discussed in the Tanakh. Anyone who insists that Jesus is predicted in the Tanakh is relying on wrongly translated Hebrew.
2007-12-23 07:14:40 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 3⤋
Jesus did not fulfill the prophecies (the "job requirement") of the Messiah, nor has anyone else through history.
Contrary to a popular Christian belief, performing miracles is not one of the requirements of the Messiah. In fact, the Bible warns against following a "prophet" simply because he can perform miracles (Deuteronomy 13:1).
2007-12-23 21:40:25 · answer #4 · answered by mo mosh 6 · 3⤊ 2⤋
The resurrection of the dead, the end to all war, the Jews becoming priests to other nations, the return to the state of the garden of Eden in which the yezter hara (evil inclination) loses power and we desire to do good instinctively and more.
The bottom line is that Jesus did not fulfill the Messianic prophecies.
2007-12-23 05:29:14 · answer #5 · answered by allonyoav 7 · 7⤊ 1⤋
The 3 that come to mind is that there isn't world peace, that will happen when Messiah comes. Also the temple hasn't been rebuilt. There is a belief that Messiah will rebuild the Temple when he comes. There is a belief that He will regather Israel, that hasn't happened yet. So no, all hasn't been fulfilled.
2007-12-23 05:28:20 · answer #6 · answered by robb 6 · 5⤊ 1⤋
I think the "messiah" is a metaphor for an age of peace on earth. .
2016-05-26 01:03:51 · answer #7 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think one reason is adequate. He will bring peace on earth for all mankind. Have you read the news lately? Is there peace anywhere on earth? No?
No peace -- no messiah.
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2007-12-23 06:43:33 · answer #8 · answered by Hatikvah 7 · 4⤊ 2⤋
DAN 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed,.DAN 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. ,.DAN 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be
2007-12-23 05:19:36 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 5⤋
I'm sorry, but I cannot think of one that wasn't fulfilled. If you look in Daniel, Revelation, even Genesis, all of the prophecies have been fulfilled.
The NT is really a bridge from the OT. Jews were Christians. Jesus is from the lineage of David, Judah, and all of the prophets.
2007-12-23 05:19:40 · answer #10 · answered by Big Bear 7 · 1⤊ 8⤋