Christians beive that Jesus is God and Jesus worshiped God. but then how did Jesus worship himself?

Question

When I asked this question, the answer said Christians believe Jesus is God… okay

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Au4SiVqV1u4q0ByJnwnhivPty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071220194554AAPaNvV

When I asked this question, MORE people said Christians believe Jesus is God in some kind of weird (sounds like a made up theory kind of way)… okay
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AuO.S2GH7XFv1FAHvh_ulrbsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20071222064057AAEAHLv

When I asked this question, people said Jesus did worship God..
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20071220194649AATXzHI


So here is my question by what the Christians believe:

So if Jesus is God, and Jesus worshiped God, then how did Jesus worshiped himself?

That makes no sense…

I believe this is a HUGE flaw in Christianity . It is also one of the main things that separates Christianity from other religions such as Islam.


But then again, many of you will say at there are many different types of believes in the Christian religion. I believe this is another fault. it seems to me like there was an original Christian religion, but it was changed up by humans so many times that different types of Christians even have their own bible, which leads me to believe that their “bible” was changed by humans to satisfy that type of Christians random belief.

And the “son of God” thing… God doesn’t have any parents, brothers, sisters, daughters, or sons. God is not even human, so how will he have a son. God isn’t even a gender. It really seems like the idea that God has a gender was made up when the Christian religion was broken up into its many different types of Christians, and then people started making up their own theories of how Mary had a child.

As for me, I think of Mary having a child when she was a virgin as a miracle to show how powerful God is, but then when the Christians saw this, she was accused of having a child without being married, then the Christians didn’t belive in miracles (back then!) . The Christians thought there HAD to be an explanation for it. They obviously didn’t beliven miracles, and thought that there is some logical explanation. So they made up their own theory that .. Oh sure, “God got Mary pregnant, there for, Jesus is the son of God“? Its funny how they didn’t also make up that Mary is the wife of God, they might as well have…
But because Mary is the mother of Jesus, it surprises me that you also didn’t make up that Mary is the wife of God. So why didn’t you do that? I guess you didn’t’ think of it at the time…

Answer 1

Question:

So here is my question by what the Christians believe:

So if Jesus is God, and Jesus worshiped God, then how did Jesus worshiped himself?

That makes no sense…

I believe this is a HUGE flaw in Christianity . It is also one of the main things that separates Christianity from other religions such as Islam.

My Answer:

To start off with, Christians never did say Jesus prayed to Himself, this is a deluded perception made up by anti-Trinitarians who are just trying to confuse the whole issue of Jesus as God. What I said along with countless other believers who said the same thing is Jesus is the hypostatic union, meaning He is One personality with two different natures, a human nature and a divine nature. If you can read the Bible and see how is it a man can claim to be human and at the same time divine, then you should be able to see that this one man has two different natures. So what is the HUGE flaw you are trying to portray into our beliefs? It is very puzzling to say the least that you will still not understand the biblical content of the Messiah and yet you would rather attack us who have managed to successfully establish a belief of the Bible in CONTEXT, something which the cults have never come close to doing. If you take your Bible and read Revelation 1:17-18 and explain 'The First and The Last, who was dead and then lived forever more' with your own views of Jesus, you will not be successful at all.

Question:


But then again, many of you will say at there are many different types of believes in the Christian religion. I believe this is another fault. it seems to me like there was an original Christian religion, but it was changed up by humans so many times that different types of Christians even have their own bible, which leads me to believe that their “bible” was changed by humans to satisfy that type of Christians random belief.

My Answer:

What proof do you have for this speculative theory? If you look into the Dead Sea Scrolls and the earliest Greek and Coptic manuscripts, you will see our Holy Bible is uniquely God's tongue, your accusations are completely and utterly false. If you are referring to the Book of Mormons and the New World Translation Bible, these are not Christian Bibles. Those books were badly mistranslated and they are not written by Christians, they are polytheistic cults who strayed outside the beliefs of mainstream Christianity.

Question:


And the “son of God” thing… God doesn’t have any parents, brothers, sisters, daughters, or sons. God is not even human, so how will he have a son. God isn’t even a gender. It really seems like the idea that God has a gender was made up when the Christian religion was broken up into its many different types of Christians, and then people started making up their own theories of how Mary had a child.

My Answer:

Precisely, you are somehow using some logic which shows our side of this belief. We believe the Son is the same spiritual substance and has the same divine attributes as the Father. This logic came from the Bible, for the Son was not human before He was in the Virgin's womb. He was, is and always will be the only begotten Son of God, which means He is spiritually not like you, me, the angels or anyone else, except He is more like the Father. Only the human Jesus is like us, but in a much more glorified body.

Question:

As for me, I think of Mary having a child when she was a virgin as a miracle to show how powerful God is, but then when the Christians saw this, she was accused of having a child without being married, then the Christians didn’t belive in miracles (back then!) . The Christians thought there HAD to be an explanation for it. They obviously didn’t beliven miracles, and thought that there is some logical explanation. So they made up their own theory that .. Oh sure, “God got Mary pregnant, there for, Jesus is the son of God“? Its funny how they didn’t also make up that Mary is the wife of God, they might as well have…
But because Mary is the mother of Jesus, it surprises me that you also didn’t make up that Mary is the wife of God. So why didn’t you do that? I guess you didn’t’ think of it at the time…

My Answer:

Like you said before, God is genderless, so your notion is already tossed out the window. He was conceived with the Holy Spirit inside the Virgin's womb, this had very little to do with sex, but more to do with a divine spiritual intervention. Why did you misinterpret our belief when you said we do not see this as miraculous? Again, you are making a completely and utterly false accusation. In Matthew 1:19, if you can see it, Mary is the wife of Joseph, not God. You can't say she had an extramarrital affair of a supernatural kind, that is way too far-fetched.

Answer 2

Well, it's very difficult to help you understand things when you have your own preconceived notions, isn't it?

Now, it wasn't Jesus who deified Himself, but the people who followed Him who did so.

They, too, did not put Him above or equal to God, but just gave Him the exalted position that He so richly deserved.

Now, it's evident that you and some others who've answered before me are Muslims who take pleasure in mocking Christians.

Let me ask you if you can understand this.

God is the Father of all Creation; so, what's wrong with calling Jesus His Son? Because that's exactly what He was.

Now, please tell me what do you think of this:

Allah gave to the world Jesus, exalted him above all others, and supported him with the Holy Spirit as proof of His Sovereignty (Koran 2: 253).

Allah appointed Mary to be the virgin mother of Jesus, the Messiah (Koran 3:42-45; 19:12-22; 21:90).

Do you Muslims want to call the Koran and Allah liars and ridiculous, now? Because, it seems that the Koran also says the same thing, doesn't it?

Unfortunately, you Muslims don't even really know your own religion and arrogantly presume to tell all others how "ridiculous" their Faiths are.

Tell me, how can you call a man who lusted after his own adoptive sons wife - Zainab and even toyed with a 6 year old girl and married her when she was 9 [Aisha binti Abu Bak'r], to justify which he even created "Revelations" allowing him to do so - a Prophet?

You want to say that the Koran is unedited and unchanged, whereas the Bible has been "corrupted"?

Please explain to me how the Recitation, which is what Koran translates as, was edited by the Caliph Uthman who burned all the other copies that he'd seized and brought out the "Shahih" version?

Please explain how is it that Pakistan declared the Ahmediyas and their Koran as un-Islamic? How is it that the Wahahbis know that your version of the Koran is not their permitted Wahabi version if there is only one Koran? Why is there a lot of things that you Muslims claim is the Sufi or Shi'a version, if there is only one Koran? By the way, aren't there Sunni, Sufi and Shi'a factions of Islam? And what are the Ahmediyyas, Baha'i, Ismaelis, Dawoodi Bohras, Fatimid, Druze, and so on and so forth? Aren't they also many different denominations of Islam?

Can there be anything more ridiculous than that you people say a lot of things and then contradict yourselves?

Think well before point a finger at another, because three other fingers point back at yourself.

Peace.

ST

Answer 3

Your objections have a pretty simple solution. The problem is that you are confusing the Godhead("God") and God the Father. The Godhead, or sometimes referred to as "the trinity", is the sum of three persons. God the Father is one of those three persons. When Jesus, another of the three persons of the Godhead, begs the God the Father to spare Him from the crucifixion if possible, He is simply begging another of the three persons within the Godhead. The answers to the rest of your related objections is the same. God the Father and Christ are two different persons. @ your second objection: "Secondly wouldn't worshiping Jesus go against the law of God and teachings of Jesus himself." Jesus is a part of the Godhead, and is therefore just as much 'God' as the Father. Thus He cannot be considered a separate god from the Father. @ your third objection: "How can he both Man and God? Is Jesus also the creator of the Earth? The creator of Adam & Eve?" Jesus at the time of creation had not taken on flesh; the incarnation had not yet taken place. @ your third objection: "So God can split in two? He is God yet he is Jesus? But Jesus has to pray to himself? Jesus spoke as if He and God were clearly two different entities." God the Father and Christ are two different persons, if that is what you are objecting to in Christian doctrine. This is orthodox teaching, that the Father and Son are two different persons. @ your fourth objection: "Where did Jesus say "worship me"? I don't want a quote not about some other person worshiping him. I want a direct quote where Jesus said to worship him as God." Seeing as Jesus is a part of the Godhead(i.e. "God"), any verse which says to "worship God" says to "worship Jesus". --------------- So, as I stated earlier, you have a misunderstanding of God's triune nature. There are three persons: The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. These three persons make up the godhead. The godhead is most often referred to as "God", though sometimes people mean "God the Father" when they say "God". The bottom line is that most Christians have a severely primitive understanding of the trinity, and make faulty, ignorant statements that misrepresent orthodox belief. Or in other words, I don't blame you at all for your misunderstanding of Christian doctrine.

Answer 4

Jesus was the first born of all creation. He was the son of God (direct creation from God) who is responsible for all of creation including angels and demons. As the representation of the reality of God he being with God, said: Let us make man in our image. From the beginning because he spoke for God, people assumed he was God. Then when he came to earth to bring the New Covenant, he made his Fathers name known and admitted he was the God of the Old Testament (according to mans thinking). Since his revelation all should acknowledge the Son but worship God. Holy Mary mother of god is a prayer dictated to early believers because of the controversy of Jesus' identity. Hope this helps clear things up?

Answer 5

There are so many different views on the Trinity. I believe that there is an Eternal Father, and his Son, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. But they serve different purposes and are distinct personages.

John 14:10: says, “And that I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father and I are one.” In my opinion this isn't supposed to be taken literally. It's just saying that Jesus and God are one in knowledge, in truth, in wisdom, in understanding, and in purpose;
Jesus asked his disciple to be one with him, and to be in him, that he might be in them. Jesus also taught his disciples to be pray to God not him.
Right before he died and was resurrected he told his apostles that he would send a comforter, he was talking about the Holy Ghost.

So no, Jesus is not God. They are "one" only figuratively speaking.

When two people become married they become one, but just figuratively.

We know little about God but we know enough about Him because of Jesus Christ's example. It's easy to maybe think that God isn't a man or that he doesn't have a wife or any of that because it doesn't really teach that in the Bible. We know very little about life before Earth and how everything happened. I believe one day we will understand how things work but don't get to hung up on the details. What's important is following God's commandments and living a righteous life.

Answer 6

God,Himself sent Jesus in the flesh..if He hadn't none of us could be saved..we must first realize that God and His son are One with the Word..God made Himself flesh and entered through Mary by the Holy Spirit born unto a virgin so His bloodline was pure..in answering your question i dont think anything said would be enough to make you understand because you dont want to and had rather deny Him..God gave everyone a measure of faith and the way you posted your question i think you know He is real

Answer 7

First off remember to not think of God in human terms. God is all powerful, he can be every where at once or no where at all, their is nothing beyond his power. Jesus is God in the form of man, he is gods word made flesh. They are the same yet separate. If you was in heaven you would see God on his throne and Jesus sitting at his right hand yet they are the same person. It's complicated but as I said you can't think of God like a human. For example for a man to exist he has the first be created by his parents yet God has always existed and was never created, he is alpha and omega, beginning and the end, always and forever. To put the limitations of the creation on its creator if foolish. I can create a beautiful drawing yet the drawing can be nothing but what I want it to be, compared to me it is nothing, as is God's relationship with man.

Answer 8

Nothing in the new testament said He worshiped Himself. Jesus honors his Father and taught us to do likewise. Jesus's birth is the mystery of the Incarnation when God became Man, by the power of the Holy Spirit, to fulfill the promise He had made to Adam and Eve, and continued to promise to the Jewish nation, through the teachings of the prophets.
You understand these things through Faith and the teachings of the Apostles and the Church Fathers.

Answer 9

Jehovah created Jesus, Mary was married , Jesus made it very clear to not worship him but the Father, the sons of God are what we call peacekeepers, and Jesus was very much in love with a girl named Mary but it was not his mother Mary. I really think alot of people are confused out there

Answer 10

Jesus is NOT God. Nor dose it say that in the Bible. There are about 500 places in the New Testament that state that God is God and Jesus is Jesus.
In the commandments is the command "not to make an image of God". These people believe that if they call Jesus "God" they can get away with it and not get in trouble for it. For we are required not to imagine God looking like anyone or anything. For too many people that is too hard, so they make this false claim.
Read your Bible and see for yourself.