Agnostics and Atheist And Intelligent Design?

Question

Do you believe in Intelligent Design? If not please explain why WITHOUT giving any references to any religious teaches whatsoever. For example, do not say, "I don't believe in Intelligent Design because I don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster," because you're using a satire to disrespect religious people views of God and therefore giving references to religious teaches. Please don't do it.

I’m an Agnostic that believes in Intelligent Design.

Answer 1

This is one of those difficult questions. My first thought is that science has demonstrated to my satisfaction that the "Big Bang" did happen and that evolution is fact. That doesn't necessarily preclude the existence of an intelligence using those methods. I also consider that in such a vast cosmos we are unlikely to be the highest form of self aware intelligence. On the other side, there are certainly enough questionable situations and circumstances to raise doubts about how intelligent a design our reality would represent. Then there is the possibility that only part of our existence is a result of intelligent design, while the rest is random and chaotic. I suppose I'll have to conclude with the admission that after considering several possibilities,I just don't know!

Answer 2

I see no evidence for the Idea of intelligent design.
I also recognize that Intelligent Design requires a hypothetical Designer. This is just another form of a circular argument and no different than any of the other creation/creator arguments.

Can you prove design without referring to a designer? No, of course you can't.
Can you prove the designer exists? Obviously not or this would not even be a question.

Answer 3

There is no proof of an Intelligent Designer, so no I do not believe.

How can you ask a question about a silly Christian idea and not expect a response containing references to religious teachings? The entire idea was developed by Christians to make the ideas of evolution fit within their ideology and teachings based on the Buy Bull.

Answer 4

I don't believe in Intelligent Design because I don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Answer 5

Will you tell me exactly what part of the human body is intelligently designed? From where I sit, moronic design is much more likely. We are prone to disease and injury, our bodies wear out as we age, our bones break easily, our eyes have a layer of blood vessels ON TOP OF the retina! There's no evidence of intelligent design there, you IDers are just grasping at another straw in a vain effort to cling to your old time religion. Give it up.

Answer 6

First of all, *you* are being disrespectful to demand constraints on people's reasons for disbelieve. You've basically said you've already decided that people's disbelief because its religion (vs. science) is in invalid, and I won't hear and I won't hear any more of that; so don't waste my time unless you agree with me. The whole pretense of ID is that it is open minded, but you're not even pretending.

Secondly, the Curch of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a genuine religion not meant to disrespect any other religion, but to demonstrate that the same type of reasoning used by other religions to justify themselves can be used to justify the FSM. To make the demonstration complete, a complete and genuine religion was created.

That said, I actually *can* answer your question, given the constraints - there is no actual evidence. The illusion of evidence is based on the false logic of assuming that absence of evidence constitutes evidence of absence. For example, if one cannot provide evidence for a detailed causal chain of events that constitutes a natural explanation for the origin of a given phenomenon, then ID takes that as evidence that the chain of events is not natural - that is, artificial or supernatural. One problem with this is that such "evidence" increases the *less* we know. For example, the "evidence" for ID was stronger in the 1700's than it is now, based on this logic, because fewer things could be explained in terms of natural processes then. Increasing actual evidence logically requires one's knowledge to increase, not decrease.

Another problem is that ID cannot be disproven assuming such a standard of evidence. Since we will never be able to explain *everything*, there will always be "evidence" of ID out there waiting to be "discovered" (the Discover Institute is named after this never ending process). As one thing after another is explained in natural terms, the ID'er will simply move onto the next unexplained thing as "evidence" of ID. So far, they've gone from the missing link, to the human eye, to the bacterium flagellum, and now they're at the human immune system, where their demand for an explanation is at the biochemical level.

These basic problems (lack of evidence and lack of falsifiability) make ID not a scientific theory. See, no mention of the R-word.

Answer 7

I don't believe in intelligent design for two reasons. Firstly, there is absolutely no evidence for it whatsoever. And secondly, the idea that complex things require a designer but that the designer doesn't is illogical.

Answer 8

i don't believe in intelligent design becaue the fossil record clearly indicates evolution. a designer creates distinct ideas or products from an initial idea in a deliberate process. the universe does not demonstrate development in a deliberate process. we can see from scientific evidence that everything came into existence in a clear process of cause and effect. design requires manipulation.

whether the universe was initiated from an intelligent source, nobody can ever know.

Answer 9

I don't believe in Intelligent Design because I don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster

Answer 10

Intelligent design,hard to argue against it's there twist on evolution,BUT hehehehe,here's the argument that put's it into view.
God has made us in his image right!,but why?,Humans breed animals for certain traits so God is breeding us for a certain trait ,what if that trait is intelligence and knowledge is gods food,after all humans mainly breed animals for food,pets or racing so which are we.