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2007-12-23 03:07:20 · 6 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Jehovah's Witnesses need help for basis for a talk, trying to help my sister with some basic guidelines to so it will sound natural please help.

2007-12-23 04:21:18 · update #1

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Two lines of evidence point to that year: (1) Bible chronology and (2) the events since 1914 in fulfillment of prophecy. Here we will consider the chronology. For fulfillment of prophecy, see the main heading “Last Days.”

Read Daniel 4:1-17. Verses 20-37 show that this prophecy had a fulfillment upon Nebuchadnezzar. But it also has a larger fulfillment. How do we know that? Verses 3 and 17 show that the dream that God gave to King Nebuchadnezzar deals with the Kingdom of God and God’s promise to give it “to the one whom he wants to . . . even the lowliest one of mankind.” The entire Bible shows that Jehovah’s purpose is for his own Son, Jesus Christ, to rule as His representative over mankind. (Ps. 2:1-8; Dan. 7:13, 14; 1 Cor. 15:23-25; Rev. 11:15; 12:10) The Bible’s description of Jesus shows that he was indeed “the lowliest one of mankind.” (Phil. 2:7, 8; Matt. 11:28-30) The prophetic dream, then, points to the time when Jehovah would give rulership over mankind to his own Son.

What was to happen in the meantime? Rulership over mankind, as represented by the tree and its rootstock, would have “the heart of a beast.” (Dan. 4:16) The history of mankind would be dominated by governments that displayed the characteristics of wild beasts. In modern times, the bear is commonly used to represent Russia; the eagle, the United States; the lion, Britain; the dragon, China. The Bible also uses wild beasts as symbols of world governments and of the entire global system of human rulership under the influence of Satan. (Dan. 7:2-8, 17, 23; 8:20-22; Rev. 13:1, 2) As Jesus showed in his prophecy pointing to the conclusion of the system of things, Jerusalem would be “trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations” were fulfilled. (Luke 21:24) “Jerusalem” represented the Kingdom of God because its kings were said to sit on “the throne of the kingship of Jehovah.” (1 Chron. 28:4, 5; Matt. 5:34, 35) So, the Gentile governments, represented by wild beasts, would ‘trample’ on the right of God’s Kingdom to direct human affairs and would themselves hold sway under Satan’s control.—Compare Luke 4:5, 6.

For how long would such governments be permitted to exercise this control before Jehovah gave the Kingdom to Jesus Christ? Daniel 4:16 says “seven times” (“seven years,” AT and Mo, also JB footnote on verse 13). The Bible shows that in calculating prophetic time, a day is counted as a year. (Ezek. 4:6; Num. 14:34) How many “days,” then, are involved? Revelation 11:2, 3 clearly states that 42 months (3 1/2 years) in that prophecy are counted as 1,260 days. Seven years would be twice that, or 2,520 days. Applying the “day for a year” rule would result in 2,520 years.

When did the counting of the “seven times” begin? After Zedekiah, the last king in the typical Kingdom of God, was removed from the throne in Jerusalem by the Babylonians. (Ezek. 21:25-27) Finally, by early October of 607 B.C.E. the last vestige of Jewish sovereignty was gone. By that time the Jewish governor, Gedaliah, who had been left in charge by the Babylonians, had been assassinated, and the remaining Jews had fled to Egypt. (Jeremiah, chapters 40-43) Reliable Bible chronology indicates that this took place 70 years before 537 B.C.E., the year in which the Jews returned from captivity; that is, it took place by early October of 607 B.C.E. (Jer. 29:10; Dan. 9:2; for further details, see the book “Let Your Kingdom Come,” pages 186-189.)

How, then, is the time calculated down to 1914? Counting 2,520 years from early October of 607 B.C.E. brings us to early October of 1914 C.E., as shown on the chart.

CALCULATING THE “SEVEN TIMES”

“Seven times” = 7 X 360 = 2,520 years

A Biblical “time,” or year = 12 X 30 days = 360. (Rev. 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14)

In the fulfillment of the “seven times” each day equals one year. (Ezek. 4:6; Num. 14:34)

Early October, 607 B.C.E., to December 31, 607 B.C.E.= 1/4 year

January 1, 606 B.C.E., to December 31, 1 B.C.E. = 606 years

January 1, 1 C.E., to December 31, 1913 = 1,913 years

January 1, 1914, to early October, 1914 = 3/4 year

Total: 2,520 years

What happened at that time? Jehovah entrusted rulership over mankind to his own Son, Jesus Christ, glorified in the heavens.—Dan. 7:13, 14.

Then why is there still so much wickedness on earth? After Christ was enthroned, Satan and his demons were hurled out of heaven and down to the earth. (Rev. 12:12) Christ as King did not immediately proceed to destroy all who refused to acknowledge Jehovah’s sovereignty and himself as the Messiah. Instead, as he had foretold, a global preaching work was to be done. (Matt. 24:14) As King he would direct a dividing of peoples of all nations, those proving to be righteous being granted the prospect of everlasting life, and the wicked being consigned to everlasting cutting-off in death. (Matt. 25:31-46) In the meantime, the very difficult conditions foretold for “the last days” would prevail. As shown under the heading “Last Days,” those events have been clearly in evidence since 1914. Before the last members of the generation that was alive in 1914 will have passed off the scene, all the things foretold will occur, including the “great tribulation” in which the present wicked world will end.—Matt. 24:21, 22, 34.

When will the end of this wicked world come?

Jesus answered: “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” However, he also stated: “Truly I say to you that this generation [that was alive when “the sign” of “the last days” began its fulfillment] will by no means pass away until all these things occur.”—Matt. 24:36, 34.

Also, after telling of events that would follow the establishment of the Kingdom in the hands of Jesus Christ in 1914, Revelation 12:12 adds: “Be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”

Also Revelation 6:1-17, the four horsemen... Each one represents something... the first one is a king sent out to conquer the world... 1 John 5:19

1 John 5:3, 4 - "For this is what the love of God means, that we observe his commandments; and yet his commandments are not burdensome, because everything that has been born from God conquers the world. And this is the conquest that has conquered the world, our faith."

The second one represents war...

The Third one represents economic hardtimes...

The forth one represents desease and famine that cause death...

These are not literal things but figurative representations...
Now lets look at history... WW1, WW2, the influenza pandemic, and events like these that happened globally... All of the riders represent global events... All beginning around 1914...

Journey Well...

2007-12-23 03:32:43 · answer #1 · answered by Juggernaut 2 · 8 0

It was to do with prophecy being fulfilled from the time of Jerusalem 1st destruction and the prophecy found in Daniel. It correspond with the ouster of Satan out of heaven and the bible says woe to the earth because the Devil have come down to you have great anger because his time is short (Revelation 12:7-12).

It is more detailed to explain. Why not ask them when they come to your door or ask your JW workmate. They will be glad to give you a more detailed answer.

2007-12-23 03:16:05 · answer #2 · answered by andre 6 · 5 0

Jesus is the mediator between his Father and us who stay to tell the tale the earth. He publications and directs the anointed who're nonetheless on earth. they provide us course in each and every element of our lives by means of God's be conscious the Bible. purely as Phillip helped the Ethiopian eunuch to comprehend the scriptures, so do the anointed help us. in the process the preaching artwork that we do, the international is being warned of the approaching destruction of the evil on earth and the superb restore of paradise on earth. it fairly is a huge activity spearheaded by ability of Jehovah by means of his son. all and sundry could desire to be warned earlier the tip comes.

2016-11-24 21:03:10 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

--THERE IS INDEED substance of our application of Jesus words at Matthew 24; Luke 21, Mark 13; John's writings at Rev.6,12; Daniels reference at Daniel 4, 12 , also at Ps. 110 & Acts 2 etc. to Christ enthronment as King of that established Kingdom in 1914-- which will follow in detail:

>>JESUS WAS ASKED, a question concerning a time period:

--(Matthew 24:3) “. . .While he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples approached him privately, saying: “Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?””
--(Mark 13:4) “. . .“Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign when all these things are destined to come to a conclusion?”. . .”
--(Luke 21:7) “. . .Then they questioned him, saying: “Teacher, when will these things actually be, and what will be the sign when these things are destined to occur?””

>>IF YOU notice the three accounts ask for a sign , in particular as Matthew expressed of his presence or "parousia"!

>>IN PROPHECY concerning Jesus having to wait for a special assignment please note:

Psalm 110(YOUNGS LITERAL TRANSLATION)
1"A Psalm of David. The affirmation of Jehovah to my Lord: `Sit at My right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.' "

>>THUS TIME would pass before Christ would be enthroned as this Psalm states & adivise to the rulers, kings, presidents (Christs "enemies" before he would bring Armageddon )of the earth would be as follows:

Ps. 2 (YLT)
7 "declare concerning a statute: Jehovah said unto me, `My Son Thou [art], I to-day have brought thee forth. ....8 Ask of Me and I give nations -- thy inheritance, And thy possession -- the ends of earth. ...
.....10And now, O kings, act wisely, Be instructed, O judges of earth,
11Serve ye Jehovah with fear, And rejoice with trembling 12Kiss the Chosen One(Christ -my comment), lest He be angry, And ye lose the way, When HIS ANGER (my caps) burneth but a little, O the happiness of all trusting in Him! "

This long range prophecy which continued after Jesus death is reiterated by Luke quoting David:

(Acts 2:34-36) “. . .‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, 35 until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom YOU impaled.””

>>In Revelation , please note the sequence of events that would take place, as we state in our time:
(Revelation 6:2) “2 And I saw, and, look! a white horse; and the one (Christ)seated upon it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went forth conquering and to complete his conquest.”
(Revelation 11:15) “. . .And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world DID BECOME (special happening, special time-my comment) the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.””
(Revelation 11:17-18) “. . .saying: “We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you HAVE TAKEN(special time my caps) your great power and begun ruling as king. 18 But the nations BECAME WRATHFUL (as Ps. 2 warned them not to --my comment) and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.””

>>AFTER THE WAR with Satan that Michael(Jesus)had in 1914 note the outcome:(Rev. 12:7-9)

(Revelation 12:10) “. . .And I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God!”.....
..On this account be glad, YOU heavens and YOU who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to YOU, having great anger, knowing he has a short PERIOD OF TIME (my caps)."

What other SPECIAL time in history coincides with Satan being ousted from heaven , bringing woes to the earth and at the same time Christ being enthroned & Christ readying for Armageddon, in Satan's "short period of time"?

Thus even the world recognized our statements on 1914 as extraordinary:

The New York World of August 30, 1914, explains: “The terrific war outbreak in Europe has fulfilled an extraordinary prophecy. For a quarter of a century past, through preachers and through press, the ‘International Bible Students’ [Jehovah’s Witnesses] . . . have been proclaiming to the world that the Day of Wrath prophesied in the Bible would dawn in 1914. ‘Look out for 1914!’ has been the cry of the . . . evangelists.”29

*** ce chap. 18 p. 227 par. 30 The Bible—Is It Really Inspired by God? ***
**1914 A MARKED TIME
German statesman Konrad Adenauer said: “Thoughts and pictures come to my mind, . . . thoughts from the years before 1914 when there was real peace, quiet and security on this earth—a time when we didn’t know fear. . . . Security and quiet have disappeared from the lives of men since 1914.”25
>>People living before 1914 thought that the future “would get better and better,” reported British statesman Harold Macmillan.26 >>
>>The book 1913: America Between Two Worlds notes: “Secretary of State Bryan said [in 1913] that ‘conditions promising world peace were never more favorable than now.’”27

THUS THERE is much support for something special taken place concerning Christ and this can be calculated chronologically also!

2007-12-23 03:29:04 · answer #4 · answered by thomas_tutoring2002 6 · 6 0

I heard it was 1919...but whatever, it's just a prediction...don't put much weight in it...we were all looking for the world to crash in 2000...before that we were waiting for Big Brother in 1984.

2007-12-23 03:14:31 · answer #5 · answered by RT 66 6 · 1 7

Because they incorrectly calculate the seventy weeks, an because WW1 Started then.

2007-12-23 03:11:54 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 7

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