Yule is the celebration of the re-birth of the Sun after Winter Solstice. Early christians simply changed it a bit and said that it was to celebrate the birth of the son of god.
And when you look into history, the "census" of King Herod (that made the mythological Joseph and Mary go to bethlehem) was held in the summer to facilitate the whole affair. So even the date of the supposed birth of jesus is highly suspect. (as is Luke's assertion that the duo had to travel to Bethlehem because they were of the house of David. An assumption that is also very highly suspect)
So christians, since this IS a pagan holiday, please take your iconography out of it once and for all, Ok?
Thanks.
2007-12-23 01:47:31 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Wow batgirl you don't even realize just how ironic your answer was do you.
I'll give you a few minutes to think it over. Then come back and tell me just how dumb that answer was. Deal?
2007-12-23 01:54:10 · update #1
Dropshor,
Yes, I've read that crock of sh!& too. It has no basis in reality. Stars do not "align", nor is there anything in the astronomical record to suggest it.
Christians have postulated that it could have been any number of things.
ALL of them have been utter myths and legends.
2007-12-23 12:27:25 · update #2
it's just another social time of feasting that the catholics and christians had to steal and make it their own, complete with modified bible texts and pagan rituals to get converts and regain control of the masses
it's always about power, control and authority
2007-12-23 01:51:12 · answer #1 · answered by voice_of_reason 6 · 4⤊ 2⤋
It all relates to the Gregorian calendar established by Pope Gregory X111 in 1552 and was based on Abbot Dionysius Exiguus during the 6th century and unfortunately was out by 6 years according to the estimates of astrology and King Herod's time. The 25th of December was the fifteenth day of the New Moon being the final day of the Roman Pagan Saturnalia carnival which was already a public holiday in Rome.
The birth star of Bethlehem was in-line 7 years before AD and it was grouping of 4 stars that were in-line and only happens every 7,000 years according to the astrologists.
The stars were coming together from about April and finally linked together to show as one big star by about August if I remember right. There is a book written on the hole subject and you might have to have a bit of knowledge on the heavens as to speak of.
2007-12-23 10:09:30 · answer #2 · answered by Drop short and duck 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Christians celebrate Christ's birth on the same day that Pagans observe the Winter Solstice or Yule because of politics. The Christian Church decided to make the celebration of Christ's birth on Dec. 25 to make it easier to convert Pagans since the Pagans were already observing a celebration on that date.
2007-12-23 09:53:14 · answer #3 · answered by BlueManticore 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Christianity borrowed a lot of imagery from Paganism as it developed. Even though the birth of Christ wasn't, historically speaking, in December, it's the event itself that is important to us, not the date it happened.
Most religions celebrate rebirth in the winter. It's part of humanity's collective unconscious to do that. I'm sorry if you feel ripped off. I'm just as happy to celebrate the birth of Jesus at the same time you celebrate the birth of the Horned God.
Can't we all just get along? =P
2007-12-23 15:23:50 · answer #4 · answered by raxtonite 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
The Church of Rome suckered the population into celebrating on Saturnia the alleged birth of Jesus in order to get on the good side of Christians since they were feeding the Christians to lions and such and Christianity just kept getting stronger. So, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em and the best way to do that is to create a party...humans are so easily led astray.
2007-12-23 09:52:28 · answer #5 · answered by RT 66 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
The Christians actually banned Christmas for a while. Both in England and America.
http://www.didyouknow.cd/xmas/xmashistory.htm
2007-12-23 09:57:54 · answer #6 · answered by Buke 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Shoot, they even stole winter solstice celebrations in the southern hemisphere. The Inca celebration of Inti Raymi (June 24), return of the sun, has become the celebration of the birthday of St John the Baptist (I'm sure that date isn't in the Bible either).
2007-12-23 09:51:12 · answer #7 · answered by Dendronbat Crocoduck 6 · 4⤊ 2⤋
I celebrate it for the fun times we have with the family. I also like turkey.
2007-12-23 09:58:01 · answer #8 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
No, thanks. You are not God. You do not make the rules for the universe.
We will celebrate the birth of Christ. If you don't like it, tough.
I celebrate Yule AND Christmas. Winter Solstice is cool.
SO what? WHy quibble over this? How does it hurt you in the slightest?
2007-12-23 09:52:11 · answer #9 · answered by batgirl2good 7 · 5⤊ 4⤋
; ) The only thing 'christian' about this holiday is the name. The pagans even celebrated the birth of a 'crucified savior born of a virgin etc' (Mithra) too!
2007-12-23 09:51:47 · answer #10 · answered by American Spirit 7 · 2⤊ 3⤋