Where did the first atom and time come from? Same queston asked in physics, who can answer it.?

Question

To have a big bang, you have to have material (matter) to go boom. All the matter that was available at the time had to come from somewhere? Also, when and where did time start, before or at the time of the big bang? My thinking is, time is relative to matter. The first atom represents the beginning of time. If you could, keep it simple. I understood the bang theory well enough to ask the question, which is about it. Thanks

Answer 1

If I answer "I don't know" will I get into trouble?

Answer 2

In the natural world we live in we acknowledge the phenomena and see purpose for "cause and effect". The Big Bang shows us the start of our universe began with great energy or "effect". What is debated is the "cause". The Biblical answer thousands of years before scientific theories has been a God or deities. The state of existence before the physical universe was the realm of the gods.

What is the realm of the Gods? Rather than spiritual perhaps we can liken it to "Pure Thought.". Thinking was so perfect that after the Big Bang the laws of physics generated and governed the four forces of nature, to create our universe. After the Big Bang the temperature cooled as matter spread across the universe. Then "Pure Thought" imagined an entity, the atom, that would be the foundation block for all of matter in the universe, start forming.

At one time people were looking for "the god particle" that held the atom together and that allowed mass and energy particles to interact in regions smaller than the atom. I don't know how successful it has been yet.. It has been about 5 years since I've read up on anything about this.

Since you asked in R & S thi swas the best way I could thinkk to explan it, according to the way I understand it.

Answer 3

Technically the first atom didn't occur until a little while after the big bang, when the universe cooled down enough to allow atoms to form. As such the first atom came when there was little enough heat to oppose the attraction between one of the many protons and one of the many electrons in the universe.

As I see it, the universe is cyclical, time has always been, and one has to assume that time has always been to assume that logic always applies (as logic is meaningless without cause and effect, which is in turn meaningless without time). Before the big bang, the universe was in another state, as for what state, I cannot say (perhaps colliding with another brain, or perhaps some entropy-reducing big crunch that is as of yet undefined.)

We don't even know for sure yet that there has been any net change in the universe from a hypothetical matter-less time before the big bang. It is still (remotely) possible that half of the universe is made up of antimatter (which emits photons in the same way as matter), and as such is indistinguishable from the large distances between galaxies (some galaxies would be matter, others antimatter if this were true).

Answer 4

Here's my theory....

The big bang was not big and was not a bang...more a small silent. Everything shot forth from a singular point in relative space (small) and since there is no air there was no sound (silent) But regardless, everything the human mind can comprehend at this point is that the universe is expanding....looking back from where everything "sprung" forth leads one to a singular point a magnanimous event from a minuet of location. So what caused the minuet of location to expand? This is the part that most people begin laughing...

imagine space as round, like a marble, there are no edges defining the marble like an actual piece of matter would have to have, but bear with me here. Once the universe reaches a point where it can no longer expand it begins to contract (like when you throw something into the air and gravity pulls it down) a) Where is it expandig to? If universe is round like a marble everything will just re-collide at another singualr point across the pond....or b)there is a single point everything will contract to and then the whole process will begin again. It's rather like a pulse instead of a growing virus.

It's either this idea or the idea of alternate universes which just seems preposterous to my limited mind. If you have two universes back to back one another like 2 sheets of paper. One is normal ie Prime Material....and the other is not Prime, rather like Superman's Bizarro world and everything is opposite completely and exactly.Once the Negitive Prime expands so far it needs more room. Like Galactus it just keeps growing. So a rip in the fabric of "space" begins. All rips begin with one single tear and thus flooding the Prime Material with Negitive Prime Material und Voilla! The Big Bang!. Now what happens when the Prime Material expands as far as it can? The same thing...it rips a hole into the Negitive Prime.

Any better? Or did that just make totally no sense?

Answer 5

"To have a big bang, you have to have material (matter) to go boom."

No. We don't know the exact nature of the starting singularity, but there is no reason to believe that it was composed of matter, by any sense of the term. The first atom formed well after time (in the sense of the universe) began. The initial universe was too hot for atoms to form.

Answer 6

So you’re asking, "Which came first, the atom or the bang?"

Time does not actually exist. Really!

It is nothing more than a way to measure the passing of events.

Events are like a never ending river of domino effects.
I'm not sure which is more accurate in describing "time", liquid or gas. But it certainly is not solid.

If we could read each others minds, I’m sure what we perceive to be the passing of a particular chain of events, our measurements would all be different.

I think the mechanical ticking of a chronometer is way to binding on human phyci and living without it would cure a lot of illnesses.

But that's me.
Gypsy Priest

Answer 7

The universe started as a singularity - atoms did not form for at least 1 minute - maybe up to 5 minutes after the big bang because it was just too hot for 'atoms' to survive.

Answer 8

The m-theory states that two 11th dimensional universal branes collided which spawned a singularity, but no one is really expected to understand this theory in full unless you have a PhD in physics or something, or EVEN then.

String theory states that matter arises as one-dimensional infinitesimal strings of energy are vibrating in 8 different directions; in effect, matter is an illusion.

Answer 9

The Heavens and the Earth were altogether and GOD split them open and created the Seven Heavens and the Seven Earth and all that is between them. When the time comes HE will roll them back up again as and when HE Wishes.

All living things have come into being from Fluid. God is Formless and Infinite with Power over Every Single Thing and the Ability to appear as HE Pleases, How He Pleases and When He Pleases. GOD Surrounds all the Heavens and the Earth and the Heavens cower under the Force GOD Exerts from around them. Have you seen the end of the first Heaven???

Time is a perception we live in, the Creator has no time and in not bound by it, HE created time and for HIM everything that has started has already ended, for us created beings it seems like eons have passed .... for Him it is a blink of an eye. We have estimated that time stops in a black hole ........ clues for Mankind to think and accept the inevitable truth that surrounds us.

Answer 10

The big bang is unfortunately poorly named. It is not an explosion, it's an expansion of space. The universe is STILL big banging.

If it were possible to travel backward in time toward the center of the big bang, you would never reach it, because spacetime becomes more and more nonlinear the closer you get.

Yet, history is finite from our perspective. This is not an actual paradox if you undestand the math.

Answer 11

The first atom came 380,000 years after the Big Bang. The energy it was formed from was from the singularity that contained all energy currently reasent in the universe. No one knows what came before the singularity.