In answers to my previous question about organised religion demanding money?

Question

It was said that God says that he requires tithes, apparrently he says this in the bible. Can anyone tell me why God (not the church) needs a tenth of a persons wage every time he/she gets paid.

Eds. You brought me right back to the point I was making.

Yes it is the church who gets your money.

Justbeingher.

The church is supposed to be the people helping the needy. Not themselves.

Joseph8568.

I dont mind the idea of sharing money, however organised religion doesnt want to do this, each one wants all the money for themselves.

Modern major general.

You prove the point.

I should think that the church leaders are pi**ing themselves laughing at your answer. You know, another mug, just listen to him, this is easy money, EASY.

No labels.

I agree with you.

Organised religion is the best con trick going. It has no equal. The Mafia was so jealous of their racket, that in America they started getting their own people into the Roman church, so that they could mussle in on the con. It absolutely beggars belief that people in the 21st century are still being taken in by this con.

For those who keep tipping their money up, good luck to you because they will take every penny you have with no embarrassment at all. Just like the casinos.

Lix. As I have already said and at least you are agreeing. The money goes to the church and not to the needy.

The churches then become very wealthy by building up their assets. Organised religious groups and organisations are amongst the wealthiest organisations in the world.

Answer 1

God doesn't need your money, but you need to learn to give it.

If you love money more than you love God, money is your master and you are a slave to it.

If you don't trust the church give to charity, but learn to give.

Answer 2

The tithes were originally to pay for the 10% of the Jewish people who were in the priesthood.(Old Testament. Rather logical when you think about it, since priests spent all day grovelling to their tabernacle or slaughtering innocent aimals, so they didn't have any time to do any real work)

That said, modern born-again churches need money so they can continue to broadcast their mind numbing drivel and conceited intolerance, or else pay for political influence and continue to create carnage across the globe

On a lighter note, it should be noted that proselytising religions like Christianity were the first, and are STILL the best form of pyramid selling scheme ever devised

Answer 3

What a load of hogwash. Where in the new testement does it say we have to pay tithes. That is old covenant stuff and not applicable under the new covenant. Churches try to hood wink members into tithing and use guilt tacktics to get it. Instead of just being honest and saying that they need funds for the upkeep of the church and to pay the minister a wage, they try to twist scriptures to use tithing to get money. It has nothing to do with Christianity. If can't afford simply don't pay it.

Answer 4

Dear Friend,

God does not need any of our money or things. God owns...everything!

This command is not for God's benefit, but for our benefit. Why? Because we are naturally (sinful), selfish. Therefore it is by "obedience" that we bring our "first fruits" (tithes and offerings) to an all powerful and loving Creator; our Heavenly Father. God is in the heart business and "knows" what each of our intentions are. Just think of the basics for a minute. God asks that we tithe the first (best) 10% of our earnings, and we keep 90%. Sounds like a GREAT deal to me. After all, God could have asked for 90% and given us only 10% to live on. Hmmmm. I think I like HIS way, better than mine. Hahahaha However, only the Holy Spirit can teach us to be "cheerful" givers. To give back to God because by doing so, HE WILL BLESS US ALL THE ...MORE!

As for organized religions ASKING for money. I don't believe in it at all. Why? Because they are NOT ...TRUSTING in an all knowing ...all powerful God to provide for their needs. Scritpure is very clear... However, if we ask out of selfishness, God will not provide. James 4:3 says, Ye ask, and RECEIVE NOT, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts." (Wrong motives)

And it does not mean we ask OTHERS for money and say it came from God. We are to ask GOD first, and WATCH how He miraculously provides. Period! Does that make sense?

Sincerely in Christ Jesus,

lostnsavd...

1 Samuel 15:22 "To obey is better than sacrifice."

Answer 5

Well the CHURCH would have you to think you're giving it to God, but if all the preacher does is preach, he has to be able to pay for his houses, cars,clothes,etc. somehow. the tithes thing went out when Jesus died. that was part of the Mosaic law.

Mosaic Tithing Laws.
Jehovah gave Israel tithing laws for definite purposes, apparently involving the use of two tenths of their annual income, except during the Sabbath years, when no tithe was paid, since no income was anticipated. (Le 25:1-12)
These tithing laws binding on Israel were not excessive. Nor should it be overlooked that God promised to prosper Israel by opening “the floodgates of the heavens” if his tithing laws were obeyed. (Mal 3:10; De 28:1, 2, 11-14) When the people became negligent as to tithing, the priesthood suffered, for the priests and Levites were forced to spend their time in secular work and consequently neglected their ministerial services. (Ne 13:10) Such unfaithfulness tended to bring about a decline in true worship. Sadly, when the ten tribes fell away to calf worship, they used the tithe to support that false religion. (Am 4:4, 5) On the other hand, when Israel was faithful to Jehovah and was under the rule of righteous administrators, tithing for the Levites was restored, and true to Jehovah’s promise, there were no shortages.—2Ch 31:4-12; Ne 10:37, 38; 12:44; 13:11-13

No Tithing for Christians. At no time were first-century Christians commanded to pay tithes. The primary purpose of the tithing arrangement under the Law had been to support Israel’s temple and priesthood; consequently the obligation to pay tithes would cease when that Mosaic Law covenant came to an end as fulfilled, through Christ’s death on the torture stake. (Eph 2:15; Col 2:13, 14) It is true that Levitical priests continued serving at the temple in Jerusalem until it was destroyed in 70 C.E., but Christians from and after 33 C.E. became part of a new spiritual priesthood that was not supported by tithes.—Ro 6:14; Heb 7:12; 1Pe 2:9.

As Christians, they were encouraged to give support to the Christian ministry both by their own ministerial activity and by material contributions. Instead of giving fixed, specified amounts to defray congregational expenses, they were to contribute “according to what a person has,” giving “as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.” (2Co 8:12; 9:7) They were encouraged to follow the principle: “Let the older men who preside in a fine way be reckoned worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard in speaking and teaching. For the scripture says: ‘You must not muzzle a bull when it threshes out the grain’; also: ‘The workman is worthy of his wages.’” (1Ti 5:17, 18) However, the apostle Paul set an example in seeking to avoid bringing an undue financial burden on the congregation.—Ac 18:3; 1Th 2:9.

Answer 6

David,
The Israelites were required to pay tithes (one tenth). The New Testament command says that we are to give as we have been prospered on the first day of the week. That money is to be used by the church only as we are told to do. Mostly to spread HIS WORD to those outside of the LORD. Have a great weekend.
Thanks,
Eds


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Answer 7

You have a very judgemental attitude that you think all churches are greedy in their use of money. The Church is called to be the body of Christ, His representative here on earth and so when money is given, it is given to Him through us. How much do you think it costs to maintain a church building in heating and lighting bills alone. My church is in use daily and provides services to the homeless, the disabled and the socially disadvantaged, all of which cost money. Much is given to charity on a monthly basis and money gladly contributed by us is distributed as the Lord would want it. We keep the barest minimum for paying bills. Perhaps if you were involved with a church yourself, you would know all these things. :)

Answer 8

Read Malachi 3:8-11

Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.
Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.

It is all a matter of faith - God blesses in abundance those who return but one tenth of their increase. I know this to be true, and it teaches the principle of sacrifice.

Oh, and who exactly do you think YOU are calling stupid, sonny boy. Have you tested this particular commandment without giving regard to the ultimate destination of the cash?

I have, and was a recipient of assistance when I fell upon hard times, receiving assistance as a consequence of applied faith, and from more than just my church. Miracles were wrought. Don't knock this until you have tried it for yourself!!!

Answer 9

Well it was initially Constantine who reorganized the gospels and threw many to the wayside in order to produce one solid scripture for the Christian nation. It was a tool for him to unify his nation and control the masses. Taxes were probably written in to gather money for both church and state. Because after all, what was good for the church was good for the state.

Answer 10

To help forward the work of the chuch - seeing as the faithful benefit from it. Church Buildings and staff don't operate for free, nor does air conditioning, flushing toilets, or charity from the church to the poor.

Answer 11

God doesn't need your money. Everything we have belongs to God. That's where we got everything we have. It's about obedience to God and his Word.