Why do some christians have such a hard time seeing that belief in god is not a prerequisite for morality?

Question

Do you think that your bible is the most original and exhaustive source for human morality? Without it would you degenerate into a vile immoral scumbag?

Face it, I have NO problem being a good person without it.

"Only when we are washed in the blood of Jesus do we appear good??!!"

Do you know how SICK that sounds?

Some of you are so truly brainwashed!!!

Answer 1

Because they'd have to accept that they might not NEED Christianity if they realize they can be good people. Not having the threat of eternal damnation and hope of eternal reward seems to worry them and they can't accept that anyone can be "good" without their religion in someone's life.

Of course, they can't explain why numerous civilizations had good, moral and just people without Christianity.

Added: Mahal, I'll stack my life against your "selfless" world outlook any day. Let me know when your tour of duty with the Marines is up.

Added: Exodus - there were civilizations LONG before the Jews. Why do Christians think that morality didn't exist before Moses came down from the mountain? The Egyptians had laws, other cultures had laws - THEY knew it was wrong to murder, to steal, to build faulty buildings - look up the Hammurabi Code.

Answer 2

Without God we all will do what is good in our own eyes. That means Hitler was doin a good thing, in his own eyes. God is the only constant. God has not changed in 2,000 years. Not in 20,000,000,000. Not ever. He is the source of absolute truth.
Washed in the blood of Jesus does not mean you are takin a bath in his blood. Rather you are allowing His sacrifice on the cross to pay for your sins. Might as well, being you cannot pay it yourself.
You most likely are more honest and stable than your friends and family, but you are still a sinner. You have never told a lie, stole anything (calling in sick, when you are not is stealing), placed an angry thought toward anyone? All these are sins. While you are better than the majority of the popuation around you, you are still "a vile immoral scumbag", just like everyone around you, without Christ.
God is the source of morality, not man.
The Bible is the only source for truth. The Bible is God's comunication to man. Not to many burning bushes these days.

Answer 3

I think we need on every highway sign in America "God's Country." You know like the dollar bill has "IN GOD WE TRUST" and the Pledge has "One Nation Under God."

Try a nation without God and see what you get. You can watch Britain. It is almost there. Without God you are nothing.
My God is the most original and exhaustive source for human morality. Without God you degenerate into a vile immoral scumbag. If God had not told you what good is you wouldn't even know that. Only God is righteous. The only righteousness in a Christian is Christ and you don't even have that.

Psalm 33:12 "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord; and the people whom He has chosen for His own inheritance." Has America been a blessed nation? People all over the world would love to live in America and come here constantly trying to get in and become a citizen.

You wouldn't even know what a good person is if God had not told you what is good and what is bad. My guess is that you are a product of many generations of Christians but you've rebelled against the Lord. You are just more intelligent than your ancestors were. That is what the majority of atheists say today. Science and evolution has made them so much smarter than their elders. God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; and base things of the world, and things which are despised, has God chosen, yes, and things which are not, to bring to nothing things that are.

Answer 4

Absolutely Not,
I personally am still very much a vile immoral scumbag with God in my life. God loves me independent of my actions. I cannot change myself any more than I can change you. I humble myself and know God is working on me and I thank Him everyday that while I'm not totally free of being a vile immoral scumbag, I am not as ruthless of a vile immoral scumbag as I use to be.
The only difference between being with God or without is where you will be spending eternity when your plane hits the building. Because all your righteous acts are as filthy rags to God. And I personally put all my trust in what the LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST has already done for me, I am more than a conqueror through Jesus Christ who loves me.

Answer 5

People are born into sin or with a wicked nature! If that is not true, then explain to me how I see two and three year olds that lie and steal without ever having been taught these attributes? how do you explain the Nazi death camps and all the other genocides around the world?
And as for you being a "good person", a question! Have you EVER told a lie? What does that make you? Have you EVER stolen ANYTHING EVER? What does that make you? have you EVER been jealous of another persons possessions?
Have you EVER committed adultery? Before you answer this one consider that Jesus said that if we so much as look at another person with lust we have committed adultery in our hearts! have you ever committed murder? Again, Jesus said if we have ever hated someone that we have committed murder in our hearts!
If you`ve answered these questions honestly, then you must admit that you`re a lying, thieving, covetous adulterous, murderer by nature! If that`s the definition of a "good person", what exactly does it take to be a BAD person?

P .S . if it`s hard wired into us to be moral through millenniums of evolution, how have all these things not disappeared, but multiplied in recent decades?
Whether you like it or not, "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God!"

Answer 6

People can have great systems of moral thinking. However when it comes to practicalities, if one is in a very difficult situation, if one doesn't believe in God, one is likely to act in 'survivor' fashion and do immoral things to save one's own skin, since one has no hope beyond this world. Also isn't one going to inevitably be somewhat self-indulgent as an atheist - after all really fighting on behalf of what is right is a great struggle with no great gain for the doer if one is just one person fighting, with no ultimate reward, against at times cruel interests that might oppose.

If by good person you mean someone who is polite and courteous, and not unfriendly, but average in ethics and behaviour, you are right.

Answer 7

Without God, no one has any problem at all being moral. Even criminals plotting their next crime think themselves to be basically good. And since, without God, all morality is relative then if they think they're good, they're good.

Without God, morality becomes a preference. Even though the majority of the people might dislike something, e.g. being robbed, the robber has just as much right to say what he likes as they do. The robber isn't immoral, he just made an unpopular choice.

Answer 8

Frank Herbert said it best: "Respect for the truth comes close to being the basis for all morality. Something cannot emerge from nothing." I'm a moral person because it makes sense to be so, not because it's been arbitrarily dictated by a higher being and I fear a post-death spanking.

Answer 9

Christianity is not just being moral. The Bible says that even the demons believe in God and tremble. But the truth is that without Christ's forgiveness one is still headed to hell. There will be a lot of "moral" people and demons in hell.

Answer 10

Not sure.

I personally think that a lot of them would be and were vile scumbags until the Bible told them to be good. Maybe they think that everyone else is like them. I don't know.