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Please explain the innerworkings of this. I understand the Theology behind it so don't waste your time with "God hates sin" or "a perfect sacrafice was needed." I want to know how the act of God becoming flesh and "dieing" on a cross made it so that we no longer need to sacrafice seeing as the act of sacrafice never really pleased God anyway. How does God dieing make it so that He isn't repulsed by our sinfulness?

2007-12-21 07:29:43 · 39 answers · asked by Jonny 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Fireball, the only problem with this is that sacrafice was never meant to atone for sins. If a Jew stole from his neighbor he couldnot be atoned through sacrafice untill he had returned the stolen item to his neighbor and begged for forgiveness. In short, sacrafice did not atone for sins.

2007-12-21 07:37:23 · update #1

C.L. Richardson, again, I understand the theology. The problem I have with your premise is that "the wage of sin" is a Christian concept that is not mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures. Therefore, The Apostle Paul created a problem that didn't exist and then created a solution to the non-existant problem.

2007-12-21 07:39:40 · update #2

**correction; "the wage of sin is death" is a Christian concept.

2007-12-21 07:40:34 · update #3

Sweet Sara, God loves us so much that He sacraficed His Son, yet His Son is Himself and He is also God(in a triune godhead of course)?????? Furthermore, according to Christianity, Jesus isn't gone or dead, he is with God(The Father of course) in heaven. I am sorry but this is freakin absurd!

2007-12-21 07:58:46 · update #4

Yes, I have prayed for the answer.............nothing, absolutely nothing. I still believe in God but I am still waiting....................

2007-12-21 08:00:30 · update #5

39 answers

This always confused me as well....

2007-12-21 07:33:01 · answer #1 · answered by Lady Astarte 5 · 0 1

You are right that in the old testament the blood sacrifice of animals was only a temporary atonement for the sins of the people.

God is the one who came up with the plan of a once and for all substitutionary atonement. God is the one who deemed Jesus Christ as worthy to be our propiciation. "our substitute"

So the innerworkings of how this plan works is God.

When he looks upon any one who has placed their trust fully in the shed blood of Christ for their redemption and salvation He no longer sees that individual as a sinner. He only sees a justified person who has been forever washed clean by the blood of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ fully satisfied the wrath of God towards mankind's sinfulness (past/present/future). The only thing you have to do to be justified in the eyes of God is to believe that Jesus Christ is the redeemer and then put your complete trust in Him alone as your Lord.

You cannot separate the legal transaction of a debt paid in full from the theology that authorized the transaction.

2007-12-21 07:38:56 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

It doesn't. Even christians will tell you that. They don't believe Jesus' crucifixion was enough payment for all sins anymore than non-Christians believe Jesus is the only god.

Funny how they say Jesus paid the price for all sins, but don't include non-belief among the things you are forgiven of.

Edit: You can rape and molest altar-boys, kill innocent bystanders, drown your own children, and put millions to death and you still have a place in Jesus' kingdom as long as you're a believer and repent before you die. Non-believers, well, there's no hope for them, no matter how much of a good person they were in life.

2007-12-21 07:39:41 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Jesus was fully man and fully God. Even so, He walked this earth as fully man, relying upon the Holy Spirit to guide and direct Him in all He did. Because of that, He lived a sinless life. When He died on that cross, He took the sins of humanity upon Himself. At one point, Jesus is heard crying out, "My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?" That was the time that God the Father looked away from His son. When Jesus cried out "it is finished" and died, it was then that all the sins of the world were placed upon Him. When He died, He descended into hell and conqureded sin and the grave. That is why He was able to rise again on the third day, victorious over sin, victorious over death, victorious over the devil. It is His blood that washes away our sin once we come to accept Him as our Lord and Savior. I hope that helps some!

2007-12-21 07:37:06 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

God was made flesh (Jesus) and the whole purpose in that was probably to die.

Sin is the cause of death.

But Jesus was perfect, yet he died?

Because he took our sins, resulting that if we are borned again and you believe, you are saved. So that the people who are going to be saved will be perfect in the eyes of God.

2007-12-21 07:45:30 · answer #5 · answered by Tan N 4 · 1 0

Simple, man sinned and died spiritually so sinless man had to redeem us back to God. God no longer looks at us as we are but through the perfect sinless blood of Jesus! The life of the flesh is in the blood.

2007-12-21 07:37:07 · answer #6 · answered by Free Thinker 6 · 1 0

First off, It is Good that you are trying to learn more about faith... BRAVO! Questions are important
However, you can not COMPLETELY arrive at religion/faith thru logic. There will ALWAYS be a component that requires you to just 'accept it' on faith. So logic and questioning will only get you maybe 75 to 80% of the way.

Having said that...

Maybe the mechanism you are looking at is that Jesus DIED, and it is said that GOD had to look away from him at that moment, at the very moment Jesus took on the sins of the world. At that moment, it is said that Jesus cried out. "Lord Lord, Why have you forsaken me!" -- showing us maybe the pain and saddenness Jesus was taking upon himself at the moment everyone's sins were put on him.

So the mechanism was a) God looked away from him, b) he took on the sins of the world c) He died, both physically and spiritually d) he rose again, conqueriing death and the punsihment of sin

God still can not accept sin, the sacrifice of Jesus did not change his view of sin. Jesus's sacrifice just means that someone is taking the blame/punishment for our sin, NOT that Jesus's death means God doesn't care about our sinfulness.

MAYBE God chose THAT way because he knew a gesture like that would make it EASIER for US to accept.
Ever done something REALLY bad as a kid and instead of your parents yelling at you, they just say NOTHING.. and you feel guilty and WANT them to punish you? Knowing what you did was wrong, MAKES you feel like you DESERVE punishment. IF after several hours or even a day, your parents come to you and say.. "after thinking about it, here is your punishment" -- doesn't part of you feel RELIEVED that you are finally getting what you DESERVE???

I think God knows that about us, so he devised a way to give us salvation that WE WOULD ACCEPT -- that we would see as fair.
SImply coming out of the sky and saying... "you are all saved!!" might make SOME people relieved, but Others wouldn't be able to accept a gift like that. They wouldn't feel they deserved it.
BUT, if God said... You deserve death.. but someone is going to take the FALL for you.. at least there is some fairness in that. Maybe you still can't accept his gift, but ATLEAST someone got punished for my sins...it just didn't **POOF*! disappear.

2007-12-21 08:09:50 · answer #7 · answered by John S 7 · 1 0

the other sacrifices were a foreshadowing of Christ's sacrifice. Christ is the ultimate sacrifice after His death no more blood sacrifices are needed, we do still sacrifice, we submit ourselves to God's will, we give God a broken heart and a contrite spirit. meaning Godly sorrow for doing bad things. And Christ's sacrifice made personal repentance possible. We can now say we are sorry and recieve forgiveness for our mistakes. If this is not what you wanted email me privately and be more specific

2007-12-21 07:36:20 · answer #8 · answered by LatterDaySaint and loving it 6 · 1 0

God gave man the freedom to obey or disobey Him. Adam and Eve disobeyed God and ate the forbidden fruit and so became followers of Satan and so "legally" now belonged to Satan.
God did not stop loving Adam and Eve, and promised that He would crush Satan's head through the seed of the woman (see Genesis 3:15) and give mankind the opportunity to come back to Him.
Satan could have said, "Hey that's not fair, you can't just take them back,they now belong to me"... so God in Jesus paid the price of man's death penalty, and in this way had the right to take men back to Himself.He paid the ransom and redeemed us back.
God Himself paid the punishment for our disobedience, and this way gives us the opportunity to come back to Him and re-enter into the relationship that we had lost.
So, Jesus took our sin upon Himself, as if HE had committed all this evil, and in this way we can be justified... just as if we'd never sinned.

2007-12-21 07:50:18 · answer #9 · answered by Friend of Jesus 4 · 1 0

i am not sure how much you understand, you say you understand why Jesus was the only acceptable and perfect (sinless) sacrifice?

God standards say that without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. prior to Jesus crucifiction, when someone would sin and fall short of God's standard, one would sacrifice an animal, sheep or goat or bull or something like that...why? because that was Gods requirement, end of story, if God said it, we do it.

2007-12-21 07:37:29 · answer #10 · answered by SunnyBeaches 3 · 1 0

Well, if the cruxifixion of Jesus payed for our sins, then that means we have no more worries about our sins.

I think what happened is that Jesus was just here to show us an example of how to live for our Heavenly Father.

He always reminds the disciples of it. We should always do things that glorify our Heavenly Father, by doing "Tikkun Olam" Which means "Repair or Heal the world"

Jesus did a long of healing and repairing and we should follow his example even unto death. When he died, he was able to say, "It is finished" meaning he accomplished his purpose of showing us a correct way of lifestyle. When we die, we should be able to say the same thing "it is finished" my work here is done.

In other words, how much have you accomplished in healing or repairing this damaged world. or did you waste your time on your knees just praying for G-d to heal and repair all the damages?

It is our responsibility to do it!

We have all received talents on how to heal and repair the world, and we shouldn't bury them, that is what Jesus taught us.

2007-12-21 07:39:36 · answer #11 · answered by Davey Boy Smith #1 Fan- VACATION 6 · 0 1

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