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even though the Constitution expresses a separation of church and state

2007-12-21 00:17:41 · 22 answers · asked by timberline06450 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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There appears to be two different bias at work here.

One is the bias against voiting for someone who professes his or her faith as a "Christian".
This has a historical base in that when one looks at the history of Christianity one sees how vicious and cruel said faith and associated faith systems have been and are in the present day.
There is also the historical fact that Christainity has worked long and hard to supress science and education among the common people . In a secular society, where church and state are supposed to be separate, this is frightening for a good many reasons which range from environmental to economic.

The second bias is one where "Christians" will vote only for another how they deem a "fellow Christian".
This is problematic because no true Christian should or would make such a judgment of another person (i.e., judge not lest ye shall be judged, etc.)
Those "Christians" who make such a judgment are usually the least educated as to the teachings of their faith, scriptures of their faith and the history of their faith which often lead them to an extreme form of fundamentalism, a fundamentalism which accurately reflects the extremist of other faiths whom they also judge and decry (i.e., the pot calling the kettle black).
This groups seem determined to work towards establishing a theocracy in this nation based on their understanding of what it means to be a Christian to the exclusion and discrimination of all other faiths. In a supposed democarcy, a government of , for and by the people, such would exclude a huge number of persons and should, therefore, not be tolerated nor indured.
Another aspect of this situation which seem rather appalling is that these "Christians" are violently opposed to various other governments throughout the world which have a theocractic nature while being blind to what they themselves are working so hard to establish in this country.

One must also remember that Christianity has an " the end of the world is immenient" philosophical basis which has lead many a leader of one or more of the various sects of Christianity to attempt to hasten the arrival of the same. A president with such leanings has the power to create such a situation in many ways. For those who do not agree with this outlook, such is frightening.

The historical fact that this nation was founded by deist who beieved that God is Aristotle's "unmoved mover" (i.e., God established creation and then retires to allow creation to run its course, leaving His creation to manage or fail to manage itself) and not Christains.
Another fact that is so often overlooked is that Christianity was practiced very differently in the late 16 and early to mid 1700s then it is today. Todays Christianity is steeped in materialism which ties it to this worldly life and not a belief in a higher power nor a hereafter where only the righteous will be blessed.
This materialistic form of Christianity has lead the practicioners of the same in this country to allow 35.5 million Americans to experience humger in 2006, has lead to the highest crime rate of any naiton including murder, assault, robbery, elder, spousal, child and sexual abuse, has led to racial inequality and a lack of civil rights, has led to an unjust legal system that only the richest can afford, has led to a staggering level of pollution and a waste of virually all natural resources to name but a few of the many problems to be found in this nation and which have all developed under our supposed "Christian" leadership.

Yes, there is a bias regarding supposed religious candidates and perhaps it is a worthwhile bias.

2007-12-21 00:54:58 · answer #1 · answered by Big Bill 7 · 1 0

Most people are not biased against male practicing Christians. I am Christian and proud of it. However, we have people like Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed who try to represent us and fail miserably. I get embarrassed to be a Christian, whenever I hear them speak. Then there is that despicable congregation from Kansas who protest at gay people's and american soldier's funerals. I don't think I need to go into why Hell has a special place on reserve for them when they go. Imagine telling us that God hates at all. But before I digress, it may seem like bias, but it isn't. Unfortunately for any group, it's always the extremists that are remembered. And no one wants that as an aspect of those who govern us all. Plus not everyone in this country is a Christian, and when christians try to mandate their doctrine, it can be somewhat threatening to non-christians. I don't think I should be shoving the ten commandments down other people's throats any more than I want Osama shoving the koran down mine.

2007-12-21 08:33:42 · answer #2 · answered by Robert O 7 · 1 0

Religion is WAY too embedded in the American society, as well as others...the Constitution expresses a lot of stuff that is not necessarily praced on a day-to-day basis...The Constitution is just a piece of paper which if you ask me is overrated..when's the last time you did something wrong and someone quoted the Constitution to you? The Constitution is just something to fall back on, a document people refer to as a last-case resort, kind of like the Bible. Even Christians do stuff that's against what the Bible says on a daily basis...I feel humanity has a need to have something on paper to quote when need be, but on a daily basis it is forgotten...Humans are imperfect creatures, after all...As far as the male thing, this may stem from older times when men were the hunters and "brought home the bacon," so to speak. Also, with the possible exception of some lesbians (smile--no offense to anyone), males are [usually] physically stronger, so females historically felt the need to follow their rules...I think this is what ultimately led to a lot of unfair circumstances...but that's just me...

2007-12-21 08:25:47 · answer #3 · answered by RR17 2 · 1 3

A separation in church and state means that our laws can not be based just on a single religion. An example of a place not governed by the separation of church and state would be the middle east. Where the law of islam is the law of the country. So if we took the law of the bible, and eye for an eye literally, and started popping out eyes and chopping off hands and sending people to the gallows for not believing in god, then that would make us a religious state. Hence, you could go to prison for thinking naughty thoughts about your neighbors wife.

However, in god we trust, we are a christian nation as far as principals and morals. Their is nothing that says a politician can't use their religion as a line for setting his morals when making a decision, as long as his decision itself isn't directly religious.

In a way, with politicians doing this, it gives you an easier way of understanding them. They say they are a strong believer is X religion, then you know where they are going to stand as far as compassion for people and etc . (Bush was a bad example). It also draws votes, as much of the country is christian and they want a christian leader, someone with the same morals and values as them.

2007-12-21 08:26:42 · answer #4 · answered by Craig 4 · 1 2

Is no separation of church and state check it out. The reason being this was and is a Christian nation no Bias just preference I want someone in office that best represents what I believe, I believe in Christ! I am against abortion I am against Homosexual marriage I am against taking Christ out of Christmas and will vote for anyone with similar believes and I will do my best to vote out someone that does not believe what I believe,That is democracy it works!

2007-12-21 08:30:12 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

I don't pay any attention to what the politicians religion or sex. That has absolutely nothing to do with the job. I pay attention to their beliefs and to how many lies they tell. I won't vote for a liar. Americans are a little more intelligent than that. As far as church and state go, there will never be a true separation there, and there shouldn't be.

2007-12-21 08:26:14 · answer #6 · answered by connie249 2 · 1 3

Like another person said, people vote for others who are like themselves, but that doesn't explain why we've never had a woman president. The majority of Americans and the majority of voters are female. I think we're afraid of the unknown and afraid to step out of our little comfort box when it comes to our image of the president (as a white Christian guy).

2007-12-21 08:24:22 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Church and State have no relation to a persons personnal voting choices. 2 completely different issues.

2007-12-21 08:20:35 · answer #8 · answered by The Lorax 6 · 3 1

"...Constitution expresses a separation of church and state"

Wrong. There is no such separation listed in the Constitution. It does imply that there will be no Government sponsored religion.

2007-12-21 08:33:53 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Separation of Church and State doesn't apply to private citizens and don't forget that America is predominantly Christian in terms of its population: 251 million Americans, out of a total population of slightly over 300 million, profess to be Christian. That’s roughly 82-83 percent of America’s population.


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2007-12-21 08:23:37 · answer #10 · answered by ♥Šωèé†íé♥ 6 · 3 1

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