For all self proclaimed atheists.... Simple question.... Pure logical question?

Question

You might of heard this before. Let me ask you if you know 1% of everything?.... You would have to say no... Or else lie. So what if i said does god exist in the 99% of things you don't know. Only logical answers. All your sarcasm won't even be considered. Show me the logic behind your answers. Then tell me your not actually agnostic. :)

Unless dude... Our god transcends all the other ones. Your not arguing about zeus right now. Or unless the real god left a part of himself in your conscience
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science-knowledge... Everyone knows the true gods laws are true. Besides that everyone else answer the question, i'll answer yours when you ask one on questions.

Sorry i wasn't using a spell check and typed to fastfor my own good... With that said, back on the answerto the question logically.

Allright!.. One more time answer the question. If you have a "question ( statement) ask it in the questions part...other wise answer the question.

Answer 1

You can't prove to me 100% that leprechauns are not running your computer, not electricity. Does that mean you're going to live your life assuming that they do?

Answer 2

I see where you're going, but as has been said before, by that logic, one would have to worship every single god that man has come up with throughout history.

In all of human history, there is not one single thing that points to the existence of god to a logical mind. Just because man can conceive of something and I can't disprove it, that doesn't mean there is a significant probability that it exists.

See the invisible pink unicorn or Russell's teapot for similar arguments.

EDIT: OK, I'll try to answer. There is a probability that god exists. I am quite confident that he does not and therefore say that I know he does not exist. I also say I know that the sun will be there tomorrow. There is a probability that this will not be the case, but it is so infinitesimally small that it does not bear serious discussion. I also know that there is no invisible pink unicorn. Is it possible that in the entire 15 billion year old universe there is an invisible pink unicorn? Sure. I still 'know' one doesn;'t exist.

Answer 3

Logic? What logic? God exists in 99% of things we don't know but not in the 1% of things we do know? That logic won't hold water.

How about this for logic - no sacrasm either.

God is a man or male.
We are created in God's image.
We have sex organs. We reproduce
Does God have sex organs and reproduce?
Where does the idea of reproduction come from?
Does God have a mate or is God solitary for eternity?


Here's another logical problem.

God can do anything.
Can God not exist?

OPinion:
Every culture has a version of God that deals with great cosmic questions. How the world began. How humans began. Our purpose and mission in life. What happens after we die.
The Middle East Desert religions (Judism, Christianity, Mohammedism) are pretty strong because the people had to be strong to survive. Therefore God was a father figure, all wise, all powerful, all seeing and pretty mean spirited.
The Mediterainians, and the Indians (India) where life was much easier, had lots of Gods. men and women and they covort and have a good time, gossip, and play with humans for fun and sometiomes because they feel sorry or angry with them.
The Native Americans who depended on animals for their lives, had, you guessed it, animal Gods. Bugs, Bears, Foxes, Coyotes, etc were indowed with God-like features and human characteristics. Coyote creates the world by stomping on a cloud but he is always getting himself in trouble or he has fleas. (Native American humor is ironic and runs all through their religion)
Asian cultures which are very old, realized that logic was useful and built whole religions on it and the balance of opposites of which the universe is actually made of.

So when you talk about God, yo should be more specific and indicate which God and maybe describe this God to us so we will know what you are talking about.

Answer 4

"I am, actually, agnostic. Not atheist. There's a difference
Learn it before you start throwing the words around."

There isn't much of a difference and most agnostics are atheist. Agnostics say you cannot know whether gods exist or not. That's what it means, fine. Knowledge is not the same as belief. There are agnostics who have a belief in god/s even though they cannot know god/s exist. There are many more agnostics who still have no knowledge but have no belief in god/s either. The first group are theists, the second group, the majority, are atheists.

The word was coined by Thomas Huxley in the 19th century with precisely that meaning. If you want it to mean wishy-washy fence sitter, that's up to you but that is not what the word means.

Answer 5

Skeptism. I don't know if what I'm seeing is real. If the whole town was colorblind and you were one of them, and you think you're seeing red, but actually it's green. From what I perceive I see no God. I won't concern and waste my time on things I don't even know and think if I'm wrong. Talk about how an apple tastes like AFTER having tasted an apple. Please, if you can actually persue me by your "99%" of knowledge, then I'd be gladly converted. Otherwise, I won't. I'm not going for Pascal's Wager either, even if Christianity was the only religion and the Atheist's Wager (see Wiki) wouldn't work. I won't regret if I fall in Hell, because it happened because I lived with all my might, with all my heart. I can't possibly have any regrets. Even if God shows right in front of me, I'd still choose to rebel against him BECAUSE of the things I feel so strongly about.

Edit: My "ethics" are very different from God's. There is no "truth". Only science, and even science isn't 100% sure. Thus, what is truth? What are morals? Why is killing wrong? That is the law of nature, the strong killing the weak. If we try to deny nature and consider ourselves "special", that just proves that we are arrogant beings. Etc. I'm very skeptical, I literally have no morals of my own.

Answer 6

You are asking a good question! I like your question! Our ability to understand the world is indeed very limited but SOME of us choose to be ignorant of this fact!!

SOME of us become too proud of ourselves for knowing only 1 to 2% of everything. We are not even aware of the fact that we cannot know everything that goes on in this complex world.

SOME people are too proud and arrogant to appreciate the power of God and these people will do whateve they can to disaprove God's existence. What benefits could these people possibly gain (from denying the existence of god) besides allowing their own ego to grow out of control?

It might be true that logic cannot prove the existence of God, but then is logic PERFECT? No, it is not and it sure has it limitations.

Answer 7

First, it's "might HAVE heard" not "might OF heard"

Second you can't offer me a "pure logical question" but then restrict my answer by telling me arbitrarily you have decided that I don't know 99% of "everything"....what ever that is supposed to mean.

Third offering me a false dichotomy, as if my only possible answer is "no" or "lie". Again, that is you arbitrarily restricting my answers.

Fourth its not up to me to show God is in your "self proclaimed" 99% law...it is up to you. He doesn't exist in the 1% of things I do know.

That enough logic for you, even if you don't consider the sarcasm.?

Atheist for the gods of Christianity, Islam, Hindu etc etc but I am comfortably agnostic about your 99%....

Answer 8

by 'god' do you mean zeus? ahmenhotep? buddha? jesus? "god"? yaweh? mars? aton? huitzilpochtli? huracan? marduk? ad nauseum? do all those get equal play with 'your' god? could any of those gods exist in the 99% of things you don't know? could the flying spaghettio god? only logical responses accepted.

your question is inherently flawed. you don't believe in any of these other, equally valid ideas of gods because you've always been taught otherwise .. that is, to believe in a christian god, am i correct? the people who came before you believed differently. the people who come after you will believe differently.

there is nothing wrong with faith. it is a good thing. it can be uplifting. don't get caught in the pigheadedness that your own particular faith is somehow superior to someone else's.

yes i'm agnostic, but i respect others' right to believe what they like. read up on the origins of scientology or the roots of the mormons sometime if you want some wild stuff .. no worse than anyone else's belief system if you step back and look objectively. but you need to take a large step back from the premise of 'my religion is the first of thousands throughout mankind that is REALLY REALLY correct, and it's up to you to prove me wrong.'

it's only up to you to follow your own belief system. stop worrying about everyone else. taking it to the extreme, the church of the flying spaghettio monster is every bit as valid as yours is. the only reason those folks came up with it is to prove this exact point .. ie by your own logic, prove to us that any of these other gods doesn't exist.

Answer 9

I am not agnostic. Here's why your argument is flawed.

In order for me to agree with your argument and proclaim myself agnostic I would have to accept that any proposed mythical being could in fact be real. Your argument is false because, if true, it means everything you have never seen is potentially real.

This can't be true, so your argument is flawed. But I do get a kick out of your supercilious tone. You act as if you're terribly smart, but you're actually kind of simple minded if you fell for such a simple trick. This isn't sarcasm, it's just helpful criticism. You're far less intelligent than you think.

Answer 10

Because you SAY God exists in the 99% that is unknown to me does not constitute proof. It is simply and unfounded statement that may, or may not, be true. Therefore your so called logic is faulty! And youngster, I can say with certainty that I am not an agnostic! I am mono-theist. My God exists and persists in my every day actions. My God has no gender and does not oversee any religion that exists on planet Earth but, unquestionably to me, is the overseer of this Universe. My God has allowed me the fortitude and wit to exist with others. My God may be known to others, but those others are not know to me. And that is as it should be. Your words and phaseology scream with hostility. Who or what has hurt you? It seems to me that you need to confront the source of your discomfort and negotiate an understanding with others and peace with self.

Answer 11

The logic is simple.

Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that your religion is correct?
No? Default to atheism.

Can you prove that a deity is necessary?
Yes? Move on to general theism and look for more data.
No? default to atheism.

Simple enough for you?

You are making the error in assuming that we are making a positive statement, when the term means a negative claim. The lack of theism.


As for agnosticism, it seems you are using the terms differnetly than we are. Let me define how I and most othe atheists use it.
Atheism is a belief claim, if you do not believe ina deity, you are an atheist.
Agnosticism is a knowledge claim, if you do not claim to know, you are an agnostic.
Thus most atheists consider themselves both, but use the term atheist.