Bible highlights doing research on zec 3:1,2 any help would be great?

Question

(Zechariah 3:1-2) 3 And he proceeded to show me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah, and Satan standing at his right hand in order to resist him. 2 Then [the angel of] Jehovah said to Satan: “Jehovah rebuke you, O Satan, yes, Jehovah rebuke you, he who is choosing Jerusalem! Is this one not a log snatched out of the fire?”



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Is the log Joshua or Jerusalem?
Is the angel the same one in Jude 9?
Is it the same fire as Jude 23?
Is Satan standing at Joshua side or the angels or Jehovahs?

ill try a differant translation.

Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right side to accuse him. The LORD said to Satan "The LORD rebuke you, Satan! The LORD, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?"

so far i have read 4 differant translations and versions all read differant.

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Answer 1

heh- I have talk 4 this week and was just about to start working on it when I read your post. VERY good questions!
I went to the CD and typed in the Scripture in "search" and after sifting through some material, I came across the following, taken from "Paradise Restored to Mankind- Satan's Failure in resisting the High Priest" (pm ch. 10 pp 177-179 pars. 6-10):

"6 The Satan who is pictured here was no mere ecclesiastical “devil’s advocate” who was acting as a prosecuting attorney for Jehovah. He was the same Satan that appeared at the meeting of the angelic sons of God in heaven in the seventeenth century before our Common Era and wrongly accused the patriarch Job before the face of Jehovah God. (Job 1:6 to 2:7) But why, in that vision to Zechariah in the year 519 B.C.E. was Satan the Devil trying to resist the high priest Joshua before the angel of Jehovah? Because on the twenty-fourth day of the lunar month of Chislev of the preceding year High Priest Joshua had taken a decisive step for the worship of God. He and Governor Zerubbabel and the faithful remnant of Israel began working at the foundation of the second temple of Jehovah in Jerusalem. (Haggai 2:18, 19) High Priest Joshua was thus working for his reinstallation in the full service of Jehovah at a completed second temple. Such taking up of his duties at a completed temple would put Joshua in a new light.

7 Satan the Devil, who fights the true religion, was out to resist High Priest Joshua on this score, so as to downgrade him and keep him out of his full service to Jehovah in behalf of the nation of Israel. That would keep Joshua in poor appearance because of a major deficiency in his service to God. To that end Satan would try to counteract the prophesying of Haggai and Zechariah and rouse up overwhelming opposition on the part of the enemies of Israel against the rebuilding of the temple. In that way he could charge High Priest Joshua with failure to discharge his full high-priestly duties, and this would result in reproach upon Jehovah.

8 Satan, however, was too late in his malicious attempt. Before he could give force to his resistance and launch his wicked charges against High Priest Joshua, the angel who was acting as a judge for Jehovah said to Satan: “Jehovah rebuke you, he who is choosing Jerusalem!” The Most High God was the One high enough to rebuke Satan, and not some subordinate angel who was merely representing Jehovah. Thus the angel was giving due regard to Jehovah’s position. (Jude 8-10) Furthermore, Jehovah had already begun action to the magnifying of his own holy name. He was already choosing Jerusalem as the city for his temple. Satan could not alter this divine choice nor make it an unrealizable choice. He was the one to be frustrated, rebuked by beholding the temple completely rebuilt in the year 515 B.C.E. This rebuke would be from Jehovah, for he had successfully accomplished this!

9 Why, though, did the angelic judge of Jehovah add the question: “Is this one not a log snatched out of the fire?” Because, after a rescue from the fire not too much was to be expected instantly of a symbolic “log.” “This one” who was pictured by the log snatched out of the fire was the high priest Joshua. But, due to his office, Joshua represented the whole nation of Israel for whom he served as high priest before God. Joshua was not the only one who had come back from exile in Babylon, where Satan the Devil had tried to burn to ashes their identity as Jehovah’s chosen nation. More than 42,000 other Israelites had also come back, along with thousands of servants and singers. So the whole number of the remnant were, all together, like a “log snatched out of the fire.” It was Jehovah’s mercy and faithfulness to his promises that snatched them out of the symbolic Babylonish “fire” and restored their nationhood on the “holy ground.” Since this was so, He was patient toward their long delay in rebuilding His temple, but He stuck to his purpose to have a temple there at Jerusalem for which purpose he chose her. Hence Satan should not be too hasty with his charges.

10 Satan’s resistance to High Priest Joshua was blocked. So what is done with Joshua to clear him of anything about him that Satan might have used as a ground for bringing charges against him? Zechariah describes it for us, saying: “Now as for Joshua, he happened to be clothed in befouled garments and standing before the angel. Then he answered and said to those standing before him: ‘Remove the befouled garments from upon him.’ And he went on to say to him: ‘See, I have caused your error to pass away from upon you, and there is a clothing of you with robes of state.’”—Zechariah 3:3, 4."

Answer 2

1 Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the Angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to oppose him. 2 And the LORD said to Satan, “The LORD rebuke you, Satan! The LORD who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?”

Joshua is the brand (burning / burnt log), saved from destruction in the fire.

Hmmmmm. Looks simple to me.

Answer 3

The translation you have is in error. It should read, quote, "Is not this man (the high priest Joshua) a burning stick snatched from the fire?

The filthy clothes represented the sins of Joshua and they were removed and he was cleansed and forgiven. He then was clothed in God's righteousness.

Answer 4

i wish people would use the right bible

the preist was doing right
the devil was against him and resisting
the angel of the Lord rebuked the devil
and it says is not this a brand , plucked out of the fire
Joshua was dirty and garment spotted and not clean
thus the devil disputing the matter
and the angel of the Lord cleansed his iniquity
and changed his raiment
(all this a type of sinful man being redeemed , as satan resists god toward us and God standing for us and cleansing us from iniquity...and changing our dirty garments for clean)

a type of the shadow of things to come
JESUS salvation by him on the cross and sheeding of his Blood for our atonement

and the devil resisting its doing
as he still does today in all of our lives
BUT GOD
Rebukes him and forgives us cleanses us and we are made
clean before God
and the High preist which is Christ
makes entercessions for us

Answer 5

Referring to Satan, he's like a brand, a coal, a live coal that's been plucked out of the fire. Now the Bible uses this phrase in the New Testament as far as our winning some of the lost. That we, in winning the lost, are plucking coals right out of the fire, and there are people that are almost in hell. By our bringing the glorious news of Jesus Christ, and their reception of it, they are like brands plucked out of the fire.

Answer 6

The version of the bible you are quoting betrays you my friend.

Edit: I'll star your question because it is late now. I want to give you an honest answer (based on my opinion) but that won't happen until tomorrow. I hope you understand.

Answer 7

Yeah, I was going to look that up too. So I can be ready for the TMS - comments. Shouldn't we be studying instead of this, Bro. LOL!!!