Creationists: Pretend I don't believe the Bible OR Evolution. Do you have anything left to your debate?

Question

I accepted a "challenge" from a Creationist for an e-mail debate about Creationism recently. I agreed, as long as he actually supported Creationism instead of just attacking other theories. So far he has only attacked Evolution and quoted the Bible .

Surely you have somebody that can do better.

It is possible to support a valid theory about something without attacking the opposition or appealing to the authority of the Bible. Just read any actual scientific paper, whether it involves evolution or not. `They actually look at evidence and offer their explanation of it, usually with little or no mention of how anybody supporting another theory is doing bad science.

Answer 1

Reliable methods for detecting design exist and are employed in forensics, archeology, and data fraud analysis. These methods can easily be employed to detect design in biological systems.

As Dr. Stephen Meyer said (when being interviewed by Nightline), “From the evidence of the information that’s embedded in DNA, from the evidence of the nanotechnology in the cell, we think you can infer that an intelligence played a role. In fact, there are sophisticated statistical methods of design detection that allow scientists to distinguish the effects of an intelligent cause from an undirected natural process. When you apply those statistical measures and criteria to the analysis of the cell, they indicate that the cell was designed by an intelligence.”

And for those who put so much faith in peer-review, check this out: http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=2640&program=CSC%20-%20Scientific%20Research%20and%20Scholarship%20-%20Science

Also, take a look at this: http://www.doesgodexist.org/Pamphlets/Mansproof.html

Answer 2

I can see that you are having a hard time choosing a religion. I can assure you that the religion of evolution is the wrong choice. Yes it is a religion and not science. Science backs up the bible. It takes a lot of faith to believe evolution, thus making it a religion. The videos I have listed on here are from secular places because I know you will not accept religious ones. If you are searching for the truth you can find it and it will set you free. If you are just trying to be clever, nothing anyone says will change your mind. If this is the case I hope you are right. Then I will have just spent my life doing good and have nothing to lose. If I am right and you are wrong then I am afraid you do not have such an easy time when your time on earth is over. I pray that you are truly looking for the truth.

What would you like to debate? The sciences? Here is the first of a set of 10 videos by Scientist who have degrees in bio-chemistry and biology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmQCNdOSmHw&feature=related

Would you like proof of the bible through archeology? Here is a video on the exodus done by the History Channel where it shows that even the Egyptian records show that it is true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J20V-LLSKI4

If you watch these videos from Scientist and Secular television and want to know more you can email me and I will get you some more proof that the bible is true. We can talk about how the prophets that lived thousands of years ago told the story of the times we live in. We can talk about how the earth can not be billions of years old and use science to prove it. We can discuss the differences between micro and macro evolution. We can talk about how some archeologist will hide any finds that dont support their theroys.

Answer 3

Richard Dawkins is refusing to communicate creationists as a results of fact he knows what the full concept of those debates is: A circus designed to income legitimacy with the ordinary public. He in basic terms won't supply them that legitimacy and that i trust him. If creationists desire to "debate" biologists (and not Darwinists, btw, physicists are no longer Newtonians for an identical reason - the technology has long previous slightly previous the unique XIXnth century formula), they are in a position to accomplish that in peer reviewed journals. there is likewise yet another cheating argument that is going something like this, that the peer-reviewed journals and the colleges in basic terms won't placed up creationist arguments. and that's authentic. however the reason they gained't placed up them isn't as a results of fact the creationists are being discriminated against, yet as a results of fact the paintings being presented does no longer meet the factors of medical scrutiny and are as a result rejected. in actuality, if somebody got here up with a respected paper casting doubt on the belief of evolution itself, they does no longer sweep it under the carpet, they may be scuffling with one yet another to be the 1st to placed up it. if actuality learn creationism does no longer face as much as the scrutiny of the peer-overview technique, and that expert scientists have extra perfect issues to do with their time than take part in a circus whose basically objective is to solid doubt interior the minds of the ordinary public with a view to furnish legitimacy to an concept that has already been discredited.

Answer 4

Well, what else would you expect to get? You would debate with arguments attacking evolution, and you would present the source of your belief, the bible. What were you expecting.

Answer 5

Where did the first cell of life come from? The first living cell? Who gives you air to breath and where did the seeds of all our veggies and fruits come from? Does science know any of that? Get back to me when they can tell you. Then we will have a debate. At this point,,you believe what you want to believe and not what your eyes tell you is true. There is a creator,,,,this world was designed by one who has more intelligence than any scientist that ever lived or will live....if you can't look at your own body,,,or around you at this world and believe in a creator then we have no debate....

God's proof of his existence is all around you...scientists have no knowledge of how it all began....so how can you debate...you have no proof at all on your side.

Answer 6

Even Behe's arguments aren't very good. The only real one he came up with is irreducible complexity and that was proven false because nothing indicates it has to be complex.

Answer 7

Read Romans 1:18-32 in the Holy Bible, New Living Translation it is written about you.

Answer 8

if a single cell developed into some sort of living being that eventually evolved into greater creatures which eventually step out of the sea onto land and thru the eons developed into monkeys or apes that eventually evolved into neanderthals and so forth until we get to man , then why doesn't a man ever walk out of an ape colony anymore?

Answer 9

He/She did the "don't listen but say irrelevant things until my opponent gets bored" technique? Hard one to counter that one.

Answer 10

There is evidence for creation, I have posted it before, do some research.