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I found it clear from many scriptures of him referring to god as his father and god creating jesus that jesus and god are definately not the same.

2007-12-18 14:49:21 · 24 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

If you think that there is a scripture that refers to them being the same, please show me.

2007-12-18 14:53:52 · update #1

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Because Satan, being the "ruler of this world" (as the Bible refers to him) blinds people's minds so they will not know the truth regarding Jesus and God. He has blinded billions today into accepting as truth what the Bible disagrees with, including false teachings such as the trinity, hellfire, immortal soul, and so forth. Satan knows his time is short and he's going to take as many down as he can.

The Bible makes it very clear that Jesus Christ was created BY God (Revelation 3:14) and if someone is created by another, then they're obviously not the same and one is superior to the other. The Bible, particularly the "New Testament" plainly and emphatically teaches that Jesus is NOT God.

People will always misinterpret scriptures, take them out of context, and twist them to try and fit their false beliefs. The teaching (and acceptance) of the trinity doctrine is a perfect example of that. For example, when Jesus said "I and the father are one", he very clearly was referring to his being one as in unity with his Father, not that they were the same being. One can tell that by reading other Bible passages that clearly lay out Jesus' inferior position to God, and also a few chapters later after he said the previous statement he also went on to talk about his disciples being 'one' with him and his Father as they were 'one'. Now if that 'one' were to mean they were physically the same being, then his disciples would also physically be part of that one being, and it wouldn't be a 'trinity', but a "13-ity". So you can see the absurdity in it.

2007-12-18 14:55:22 · answer #1 · answered by X 7 · 6 5

Trinity definition according to the Athanasian Creed:
There are three divine Persons (the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost) each said to be eternal, almighty, none great or less than another, each said to be God and yet together being but one God. It goes on to emphasis that the three "Persons" are not separate and distinct individuals by are three modes in which the divine essence exist.
This is not a biblical teaching. The Trinity Doctrine was formulated in the 4th century. It was not a teaching of the Apostles. The idea of a triune god stemmed from ancient Babylonian and also later Greek philosopher's such as Plato.
The Bible does not support the Trinity Doctrine:
Matt. 26:39 - if they weren't distinct would Jesus be praying to himself and his will would have not necessarily been the Father's will.
John 8:17, 18 - Jesus spoke of himself as being distinct and separate.
Col. 1:15, 16 - Jesus had a beginning - not eternal
Rev. 1:1, 3:14
Mark 13:32 - Shows Jesus is not omniscient
Matt. 20:20-23 - Jesus said position was not his to give, but the Fathers.
John 14:28 ".....for the Father is greater than I."

There's many, many more scriptures that disprove the Trinity Doctrine.

2007-12-18 23:18:16 · answer #2 · answered by Enlightening McQueen 3 · 2 1

J.W's have known this for a long time. That Jesus and his Father are two separate beings.
John 5;19 makes it very clear.
The claim that Jesus is God is an attempt to try and prove the trinity concept.
It takes away from Jesus the credit for his sacrifice. And it takes away from his Father, Jehovah God, the credit for being exclusive in the universe.

2007-12-18 23:01:46 · answer #3 · answered by pugjw9896 7 · 4 3

John chapter 14 especially verses 5 to 12

2007-12-18 22:57:45 · answer #4 · answered by Diane D. 3 · 2 3

In Matthew 28:16-20 otherwise known as the Great Commission, it says:

16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go.

17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted.

18Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."

My footnote for verse 19 says this:

Jesus' words affirm the reality of the Trinity. Some people accuse theologians of making up the concept of the Trinity and reading it into Scripture. As we see here, the concept comes directly from Jesus himself. He did not say baptize them in the names, but in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The word Trinity does not occur in Scripture, but it well describes the three-in-one nature of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

2007-12-18 23:13:19 · answer #5 · answered by NSnoekums 4 · 0 4

There are many examples in the Bible, do an search under Trinity, or Deity of Christ.
Jesus said I AM he, God.(new testament)

I Am the bright and morning star.........The God of the old testament (before Jesus said this) and in Revelations The New Testament Jesus said he is the Bright and morning star.

Jesus and God are one.

Look it up it really is an interesting study.

2007-12-18 23:04:55 · answer #6 · answered by carpentershammerer 6 · 3 4

Because Jesus made it very clear that He is, dear one. He accepted worship and told His followers that "when you see Me, you have seen the Father. I and the Father are One." He also said, "I Am that I Am. Before Adam I Am."

There is simply no doubt of the divinity of Christ.

God bless and Merry Christmas!

2007-12-18 23:03:51 · answer #7 · answered by Devoted1 7 · 1 4

In the Christian religion, God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are said to comprise a Trinity that is at once three individual entities and one entity that encompasses all three. Thus, Jesus can refer to God his father, while also referring to himself as "I am the truth, the way, and the light."

Ultimately, does not God encompass all of us?

2007-12-18 23:00:36 · answer #8 · answered by Chantal G 6 · 2 5

The three Spirits of witness;

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the
Word, [Jesus], and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

And there are three that bear witnes in earth, the spirit,and the
water, and the blood: and these thre agree in one
1John 5:7 - 8; 9,10,11, 12,13.

2007-12-18 23:09:01 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 4

God is Jesus, but u can also say Jesus is God's Son, were all part of God, He made us, so u can also say were a part of God.

2007-12-18 23:04:21 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 4

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