Is it unreasonable to attempt to reason with someone who says their knowledge isn't based on reason?

Question

If someone claims they know something through faith, is it absurd to believe that they can be persuaded with rational arguments?

I'll take that bet CL... What are the stakes?

Answer 1

I'm willing to bet that whatever you believe or don't believe is 100% based on faith.

Answer 2

No; if someone believes without reason, it does not follow that they will not stop believing given a reason. In other words, some faith-based believers believe despite a lack of reason for believing, but would stop believing if they were given a reason NOT to believe.

This obviously does not apply to all faith-based believers. Some are totally unreasonable.

Answer 3

something precis has no length. There may be situations the place it fairly is not any longer achievable to appreciate no count in case you're hating or loving. There may be concern of hatred in the beginning sight. the place can we demarcate that it fairly is hatred or prejudice? it fairly is all interior the suggestions, it fairly is a extensive capture. it would desire to look so in some situations as a results of fact reason and result are analyzable to that advance via any straight forward suggestions. previous that once one ponders, hatred and love will merge into one additionally the place dualistic international disappears. the place does all the diagnosis and conclusions vanish in such stages. Love exists as a results of fact of hatred and hatred exists as a results of fact of affection. something metaphysical may be understood basically via evaluation of the opposites or likely opposites. as a result what applies to a minimum of one must be proper to the different too. If hatred has a reason, love has a reason too, if love has no reason, hatred additionally has no reason.

Answer 4

Well that was a total waste of 5 points if you were looking for a answer that you didn't already know wasn't it ? Of course it is unless they are willing to look at the basis of their belief system and learn something new it will always be a waste of time ! If however they have a mind that is open to new ideas then you may not convince them of your point of view but it may teach them that there are others that maybe worthwhile of consideration ! And isn't that a worthwhile thing in itself ?

Answer 5

If there is a conversion and someone sees the light; I think it makes the conversion more dramatic as happened when Saul became Paul. It was a matter of finding the right question. so it is not unreasonable. that is my opinion and nothing you can say will change my mind :D

Answer 6

It does seem quite unreasonable, sure. But at the same time it'd be frustrating if someone were to say "1+1=4 and I don't know why but it does, I just know it". (this is just an example) And though I'm sure it'd probably fall on deaf ears part of me would still want to show them that if they opened their eyes to just a smidgen of logic they'd see it and they'd see why.

Answer 7

It's never unreasonable to attempt to reason with someone, though it might be futile if they are unwilling to be reasonable.

Answer 8

I would say you've nailed it. They are free to say and think that if they would like, but they are also saying that they've removed themselves from rational argument or thought.

Answer 9

I'll second C.L.s wager. Most of what you know is the result of you believing someone or something.

Answer 10

Yes. I have tried and it just doesn't work. I end up beating my head against the wall, while they spin in a circle saying "I believe because I believe."

Answer 11

Faith is an expectation of hope. It is best not to mess with another persons hope.