Easter, Eid and paganism?

Question

Catholicism celebrates Spring solstice

Easter is always celebrated on the first sunday after the first full moon of spring solstice

Eid mubharak is always celebrated on the first sunday, after the first full moon, of winter solstice

Looks liek a bunch of pagans created relegieons to convert the masses to celebrate the solstices....


Why do we eat eggs and bunnies, what have these got to do with Christ?

I know they have a lot to do with a persian goddess called ishtar, whose reincarnation was represented with eggs, and whose fertility is represented with bunny rabbits

By celebrating the spring solstice and the winter solstice, the old romance of the sun god and moon god, to the esoteric inside Catolicism and Islam are one in the same.

Catholcism claims to love Jesus, but esoterically thwey worship ishtar

and Islam thinks Jesus is not god, therefore no need to pretend about how they like him

what says you?

If i am wrong

please check your calendars for this years winter solstice

then check for the first full moon,
and check for the first sunday, and guess what
it's going to be Eid sunday

Crusader, no need to serve the beast, let evil take care of itself, don't sell yourself for 30 pieces of silver

Frau:

I have already stated that pagans were doing these things before Chrisitans, which is exactly why paul hated it

Sorry darling

but the order of kingdoms as prophesized in the bible before they arrived, and as they occured in history was babylon, persia, greece and rome

Ishtra to the babylonians

Venus to the greeks

Mithra to the romans, or Venus columbia

later to become Cathlocism

and this is who they worship throguh mary

which is why the pope thinks it's a good idea to call Mary a co-remdemptress

You want to be a pagan,
interesting

Chrisitianity is a bout how millions of creatureas fell from the sky wanting to be gods themsleves

who then convinced adam and eve on how to become gods themselves

and pagan worship is about worshipping millions of gods, i'm sorry, creatures who wanted to be gods

do you see a correlation?

Thank you Dragon, equinox and not solstice

no they should not be out of rhythml, but is the rhythm a celebration of God, or about gods who wanted to be god ?

Answer 1

eggs and bunnies have to do with springtime fertility.
colored eggs date back to ancient Egypt, long before Christianity; as part of the springtime ressurection of Osiris, who died on a Friday and came back on a Sunday.

Religions are like languages: they borrow from each other all the time. nothing new.

Answer 2

Ishtar is not a Persian Goddess. She is a Goddess of Babylonia and Akkad (the kingdom of Sargon the Great). Sumerians knew her as Inanna. Her symbol is the eight-pointed star, i.e., the planet Venus.
Muslims consider Jesus a prophet. They consider Muhammad the final prophet. They may not worship Jesus as God but cleary venerate him.
Solstice and equinox celebrations preceded the establishment of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam by thousands of years. Paganism, an umbrella term for a wide variety of pre-Judeo-Christian religions, is nature based. The movements of the Sun provide the basis of calendrics for both secular and sacred purposes.
But it's not just solstices and equinoxes that we co-opted by Christians, but also a wide variety of holidays such as Saturnalia and Saint Patrick's Day. The former was celebrated from the 17th through 23rd of December and included a number of the holiday's aspects deemed common at Christmas such as gift-giving. The latter was the date of the Roman Liberalia, a Festival of Astarte, and also the start of the Akitu Festival, a twelve-day celebration that ended with the hieros gamos or sacred marriage rite, i.e., ritualized sexual intercourse between the King and High Priestess in Sumeria, Akkadia, and Babylonia.
Yes, there's a correlation. Early Christians decided that it was well to borrow Pagan holidays, because a. many of them had converted to Christianity and didn't want to entirely lose the holidays that were sacred to them, b. wanted to make conversion to Christianity easier for Pagans, and c. because they, too, had to follow the cycle of the seasons and Solstices, Equinoxes, Moons and other nature based occasions are not beyond them.

Answer 3

Jesus rose a few days after Passover, in the spring. Christians don't celebrate His resurrection because pagans have their own observance at that time. We celebrate because we are celebrating Jesus' sacrifice and resurrection. I think you could make a case for every day of the year being a bad day to celebrate a Christian event because it belongs to some pagan observance. What matters is how YOU view it, not how other people do. I don't eat bunnies and eggs on Easter, but I don't see any harm in doing so. And no, just because it's called Easter doesn't mean Christians are secretly worshiping Ishtar. Don't look for esoteric meanings in the Christian faith. Esoteric meanings are strictly prohibited. The only way they could play a role is if Christians let them. We don't.

Answer 4

You mean Spring Equinox. Winter and Summer have solstices; Spring and Fall have equinoxes.
Eid al fitr was in October this year, Eid Al Adha is in December. The time of the Eids, like the time of the Chinese New Year, is based on a lunar year calendar, so it comes about 11 days earlier each year by the modern solar year calendar. So they are not associated with any Solstice or Equinox. On the other hand, Passover and Easter are based on lunar months within a solar year, so the date is slightly different each year, but remains within the same season, near the Spring equinox as you pointed out.
Would you expect any celebration of God to be out of rhythm with God's creation? Why should it have to be? The new life of Spring adds a layer of symbolism to the celebration of Resurrection on Easter.

Answer 5

That Islam and Christianity used the pagan way of determining holidays so they could induce pagans into their new religions.

btw: Solstice isn't Easter - the solstice takes place in summer. Easter is in spring - see below.

You have it backwards. Pagans were celebrating solstices LONG before Islam and Christianity - who do you think Paul hated so much? Do some history research.

And the term Easter comes from the Germanic goddess Ostara, whose celebration was in Spring. That's where Easter, rabbits and colored eggs come from - resurrection of Spring and the earth - fertility.

Quit trying to accuse pagans of jumping your holidays - it's the other way around.

Answer 6

Eid Mubarak isn't a Muslim holiday, its a phrase used by Muslims to wish each other a happy holiday. The actual name of the holiday is Eid ul-Fitr.

Eid ul-Fitr doesn't fall on any particular day of the western calendar because the Muslims use a lunar based calendar with a different number of days in the year than the western calendar.

Thus, the Eid holiday "rotates" throughout the western calendar from year to year. Since the Islamic calendar is not solar-based, none of the Islamic holidays have anything to do with solstices at all.

Answer 7

the Edi is tomorrow u dumb @ss which is a Wednesday
where did u get all that b.s from it seems like u know nothing about Islam so stop pretending to be smart because the harder u try the dumber u will appear so stop ur hate and peace out man
we love Jesus more than Christians do , worshiping Jesus wont mean u love him more he hates that act because he never claimed of being god nor the son of god he is human from flesh and blood .

Answer 8

us pagans have been around longer then christians
Christians have stolen our celebrations because they are seeing how much fun we have

May be us pagans should take back our holidays and not allow christians to celebrate them

ya that is a good idea

Answer 9

Paganism is good. I am a pagan. Embrace your paganism. It's natural, it's good.

Answer 10

I suggest everyone read this article:
http://www.catholic.com/library/is_catholicism_pagan.asp