because they have not been able to reach the right interpretation of the Bible the first time?
Watchtower 15, 1989, page 17
From such experience it can be seen that Jehovah God caused the Bible be written in such a way that one needs to come in touch with His human channel before one can fully and accurately understand it. True, we need the help of God's holy spirit , but as its help alsocomes from us primarily by association with the channel Jehovah God sees fit to use. "
Did God choose wrong people after all or could it be that the Watchtower Society make false claims?
2007-12-18 05:44:14 · 8 answers · asked by Nina, BaC 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Vot anar: I do my own performance becaue I know me and God knows me. Jesus' offer is the same for everyone. You are so hanged up on Trinity which you do not even understand.
I am going to be with God FOREVER, that is a long time. That is a great promise. Better than your bloody paradise
2007-12-19 11:08:12 · update #1
Very good, Nina.
Here you are exposing their grave error about not TOTALLY RELYING on the Holy Spirit for illumination of God's Word. Here they say they need His "help", as if He was some sort of consultant or something! But then they seem to also mention audaciously (other than calling Him an "it") that they actually are the chosen channel for Him to operate! Of course, they dress up this insolent assertion with such religious rhetoric and false humility as "as Jehovah God sees fit". What a bunch of hot air!
Oh, boy, are they important or what? The sovereign (John 3:8)Holy Spirit NEEDS them, as if He couldn't or wouldn't use and speak through anyone else? This is absolutely insolence at its best, or worst, however you want to look at it!
Remember, when Jesus confronted the Jewish leaders with their spiritual arrogance in their claims to being "God's channel" due to having Abraham as their father, what did He say? Yes, that their father was the devil (John 8). It appears that the Russellite leaders' foolish claims to fame here are not too far from the religiously hypocrital Pharisees'. And just like them, they certainly haven't gotten their interpretation of the Bible even close to the truth!
2007-12-19 10:59:51 · answer #1 · answered by Tom 4 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Speaking of "Annointed" perhaps the Watchtower Society are annointed to twist the Bible and bend it to their own human cult of understanding.To make things worse, they make their own Bible known as the "New World Translation". The Devils trap. God forgive them for they do not know what they do. Or if they do know, then they are lunatics. If they are the annointed truth, then the Bible is a myth full of fantastic speculations. A suicide in philosophy.
2007-12-18 21:59:14 · answer #2 · answered by periclesundag 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
No. just the flesh getting in the way of the Spirit of God.....
2007-12-18 05:48:54 · answer #3 · answered by Seeno†es™ 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Well at least they did FINALLY reach it.
While others are still stuck in the murky muck of false doctrine, like the trinity.
Oh, by the way, did you see how your fellow trinitarians shed some more light on the "truth of the trinity" for us "heretics" who do not believe?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071218101519AA7RO5H&r=w#NbUvWDC7VDVA0.QGGlh7
2007-12-18 06:30:37 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 4⤋
No.
More than a century ago, Jehovah's Witnesses recognized the bible truths that hell is not hot, that the soul is not immortal, that God has a personal name, that Jesus is not Jehovah, that most humans will be resurrected as humans, and that God's Messianic Kingdom will restore paradise to earth and end the suffering of humankind.
http://watchtower.org/e/jt/index.htm?article=article_03.htm
Amazingly, those ideas remain tightly and uniquely identified with Jehovah's Witnesses. Some enlightening regarding details has emerged in 130 years, but it is a simply untrue to pretend that these teachings constitute "false claims".
Incidentally, Jehovah's Witnesses use literally dozens of different legal and corporate entities, many of which have names similar to "Watchtower Society". Rather than to a corporation, beliefs and teachings are common to persons of the same religion, specifically to the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
When a questioner refuses to even use the actual and respectful name of a religion, it would seem to expose the questioner's lack of objectivity and lack of credibility.
In any event, it seems rather obvious that ongoing bible research, as well as occasional advances in archeology and etymology, would result in refinements of one's understanding. That was true for Jesus' apostles and other early Christians, and it is true today.
In the first century CE, certain ideas took DECADES to resolve, even among men and women who walked with Christ Jesus. Even in the presence of Jesus, the idea of 'eating flesh and blood' stumbled some disciples (not outsiders, but disciples) who were unwilling to wait for the now-obvious answer (Jesus was simply speaking metaphorically).
After Jesus' impalement, sincere disciples were confused about whether Christianity should involve only Jews, or maybe only Jews and Samaritans, or maybe only these and circumcised Gentiles. There was confusion about using tongues within the congregation, about tolerating sin and "Jezebel", about when Jesus would "return", and about when Armageddon would arrive. Much of this confusion was quite public; even though the apostle Peter enjoyed tremendous privileges and direct communication from heaven, Peter seems to have been the source of an incorrect teaching "out among the brothers" that was perhaps not resolved until the apostle John wrote his Gospel more than 60 years later!
(John 6:61-68) Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were murmuring about this, said to them: “Does this stumble you? ...he went on to say: “This is why I have said to you, No one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.” Owing to this many of his disciples went off to the things behind and would no longer walk with [Jesus].
(Acts 18:25-26) [Apollos] had been orally instructed in the way of Jehovah and, as he was aglow with the spirit, he went speaking and teaching with correctness the things about Jesus... When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they took him into their company and expounded the way of God more correctly to him.
(John 21:21-23) Peter said to Jesus: “Lord, what will this man do [that is, the apostle John]?” Jesus said to him: “If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you? You continue following me.” In consequence, this saying went out among the brothers, that [the apostle John] would not die. However, Jesus did not say to him that he would not die, but: “If it is my will for him to remain until I come, of what concern is that to you?”
Does the bible support the idea that full knowledge would be instantly understood by everyone? No. Instead, the bible contains such reasonable ideas as these:
(1 Corinthians 13:12) For at present we see in hazy outline by means of a metal mirror, but then it will be face to face. At present I know partially, but then I shall know accurately even as I am accurately known.
(Daniel 8:16,17;12:4,9) [The voice] proceeded to call out and say: “Gabriel, make that one there understand the thing seen.” ..And he proceeded to say to me: “Understand, O son of man, that the vision is for the time of the end.” ...“And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.” ...And he went on to say: “Go, Daniel, because the words are made secret and sealed up until the time of the end.
Learn more:
http://watchtower.org/e/jt/index.htm?article=article_02.htm
http://jw-media.org/beliefs/beliefsfaq.htm
2007-12-19 06:36:57 · answer #5 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
annointed=Gods will.....Gods choice is never wrong we just cant always understand the why
2007-12-19 05:18:52 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
JWs are not the "anointed people." They're this much above a cult.
2007-12-18 05:47:43 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 3⤋
None of them understand the Bible. If they did, they would realize that Jesus didn't exist, and neither does God.
2007-12-18 05:47:39 · answer #8 · answered by Godless AM™ VT 7 · 1⤊ 10⤋