Is the trinity of the Christian faiths just a copy of the Egyptian trinity ?

Question

Osirus the father , Isis the mother & Horus the son .
Babylon also had a trinity.
Is it just a copy of the Satanic trinity ?

Saul_sab .....If you read the question again you will see i am calling the Egyptian trinity satanic , I did not call the Christian trinity satanic , even though i do not believe the trinity , i do not wish to insult Christians who do.

Scotgirl....They where not 3 people but 3 gods

Answer 1

The historian S.H. Hooke tells in detail of the ancient Sumerian trinity: Anu was the primary god of heaven, the father, and the King of Kings. Enlil, the "wind-god" was the god of the earth. He was also a creator God. Enki was the god of waters and the lord of wisdom. This was highest Sumerian trinity. A lesser trinity "was composed of Sin, the moon-god, Shamash, the sun-god, and. . .Hadad, the storm-god." . The historian H. W. F. Saggs explains that the Babylonian triad consisted of three gods of roughly equal rank. Their "inter-relationship is of the essence of their natures."

"Nature." "Essence." Sound familiar?

There is no scripture in the Bible where it says God is composed of three co-equal persons. Jesus said at John 17:3 that the Father is the ONLY true God.

Answer 2

Satanic trinity? Hunh? I'm only going to respond to the title of your question. Throwing around terms like "Satanic trinity" is ridiculous. So.... "Is the Christian trinity a copy of the Egyptian trinity?"

Not exactly. Christianity is what is known as a syncretist religion - meaning a little bit of this, a little bit of that, all thrown together to make something new.

I've never really heard of Osirus/Isis/Horus called a trinity specifically, but it is plausible. Most of the trinity types I've heard of are based loosely on the concept of a human family - a father, a mother, and a child.

In the Christian religion the feminine presence has been removed and substituted with an androgynous "holy spirit". I leave it up to the reader to research that.

The earliest mention that I have heard of that mention God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit as a trinity was by Tertullian, and that wasn't until 200 something years after Jesus died. It took another hundred years before the Council of Nicea would adopt the *political* measures that would unit Christendom into a catholic (universal) church... the Nicene Creed.

There are no biblical passages that explicitly state the doctrine of the christian trinity, and aside from one or two ambiguous statements, Jesus speaks of his Father as a separate being.

I've done some reading on Jung, and there are things that we, as human beings, all subconsciously see symbolically. I tihnk that a family unit is one of them - for good reason, too! Biologically hard-wiring us to think in terms of a family unit is good for the perpetuation of the species... It is small wonder to me that a three or three-in-one concept is at the basis of so many of our religions.

What bothers me is that Christianity has expunged the feminine element from their conception of God, and this has led to viewing the fairer sex as 2nd class citizens. I suppose that's a different topic, a different answer, though.

I will add that if we can't imagine (or think it dangerous to imagine!) a woman on a cross dying for our sins, what does that signify about our attitudes towards them? What kind of value do we place on someone who is unable to save someone else?


Saul

Answer 3

It's hard to say. I always thought the Christian Trinity may have been more Greek influenced from stories like that of Dionysos. Zeus and the mortal woman Semele had an affair and that birthed Dionysos, the Son of a "god" and mortal woman. So the story of a virgin giving birth to a god is not new with Christianity. Christian concepts are a mixture of several older traditions understood in a new fashion.

There is also the Phoenician story of Eshmun, a mortal man who dies and rises again to become a god who heals the sick.

god-men who are born and rise from the dead were very important concepts in ancient cultures. And many of those gods had developed mystery traditions of their own. So it's no surprise that a universal religion like Christianity became so popular and lasted so long, those type of traditions and concepts were becoming very popular anyway.

Answer 4

So right it is the way you allegedly "learn" history; -you're taking words from one language, and learn them to words of a thoroughly distinctive language family individuals. - locate those that sound the comparable (or would be compounded to sound the comparable). - forget approximately approximately another evidence of the meaning and etymology of those words. - Then use this to declare that one subculture stole it is ideals from yet another subculture. the concern that makes the Hebrew language distinctive to maximum is that it is alphabet isn't basically phonetic. Hebrew words are built of letters which themselves have meaning. So each and each word would be traced returned with the aid of the meaning of it is letters. the actuality that some Hebrew words sound comparable to words from different cultures is fully beside the point to the definitions of the Hebrew words. Oh, and there grew to become into not something on your argument that remotely resembled the Trinity doctrine.

Answer 5

It's very likely that Christians got it from there (other pagans had trinity concepts too). I've read quite a bit of scholarship on this, and the Trinity concept points to a Christian appropriation of pagan ideas.

Answer 6

The parallel wouldn't be true, because the trinity you mention are 3 people who are 3 people, and not a unified person with 3 distinct parts, as in the Christian Trinity.

By your parallell, the Christian Trinity would have to be Joseph the father, Mary the mother and Jesus the Son.

The Christian Trinity (One God), is God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Can you explain how that parallels what you have described?

At all???

Answer 7

Christianity took bits and pieces of older religions, cults, and myths.

The Christian 'Bible' uses a somewhat modified translation of the Hebrew 'Torah' as the 'Old Testament', but then adds a 'New Testament' which is a mix of historical fiction, myth, and superstitious nonsense stolen from a variety of other ancient writings, and beliefs.

Jesus wasn't the first 'savior' to be born of a virgin, perform miracles, or to be tortured and killed after being betrayed by a friend. Nor was he the first to come back to life three days later and ascend into heaven.

Answer 8

No.
If you read the different writings of the church fathers from the first to the fourth century you will see how they struggled to express the beliefs that we now call the doctrine of the Trinity. I cannot recall at any time any mention of the Egyptian Trinity.

Answer 9

Yes, but you'll have a hard time convincing a Christian that they're just following some ancient archaic belief that was copied from Egypt. The birth sequence and the supposed infanticide were also copied.

Answer 10

Yes.

Jesus said that his followers would be different from the world. Unfortunately, false Christianity arose that tried by all means possible to be accepted by the others that they adopted everything they could and sugar-coated it with Biblical words.

(trinity, Christmas, Easter, immortality of the soul, hell-fire etc)