How can god, Jesus, and the holy ghost be the same thing? Isn't that just a bit silly?

Question

Even Jesus didn't claim to be god, so why do people suggest he was??

Answer 1

Because the priest says so!!!

One of the things I fail to understand is why those who believe in the trinity (and there's more than plenty of them on here) cannot explain what it is.

They give feeble examples that make no scientific or logical sense. They do not show us proof from the Bible. Whatever verse they bring up actually disproves the trinity.

Then they get annoyed and call the rest of us "heretics" for not believing in the trinity.

L.C- how many people in the Bible used the phrase "I am"?

Trying to squeeze the trinity into the Bible always results in your having a Billionity and not a TRInity.

Answer 2

There are many scripture proofs that tell us Jesus is God. Such proof is in Revelation Re 1:8
"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

Re 21:6
He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life.

Consider Jesus' words to the people in the temple when he said he would provide living water.
John 4:10 and 7:38.

Re 22:13
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

The reason why denying the Trinity is considered heresy is because by suggesting Jesus was a man utterly changes the reality of who and what God is - which is incomprehensibly three persons in one.

If God is three persons but One God He then distinctly different to being one God with two cohorts, as it were.

We might not understand it, we have to take the Trinity by faith - it is not wishful thinking. Consider some do not understand why fornication should be a sin, common enough, but the person must live in faith that fornication is a sin.

Christian are not called to have blind faith. The Bible tells us what true faith is: Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.

We can see through the NT especially that Jesus is God.

Hebrews is all about arguing for Jesus' divinity.

And the Trinity is not in the least Babylonian. Rather more when the Babylonians took the Israelites into captivity they learnt what the Israelites believed and incorporated certain aspects into their own religion as suited the personalities of their gods. It is a common ploy to dismiss the Bible as a conglomerate of Pagan beliefs, when really the Pagan religions borrowed ideas from other beliefs at the drop of a hat. Nothing the Israelites believed had anything to do with Paganism as neither does Christianity. Christianity and Paganism are poles apart.

Answer 3

I don't know about it being silly, but it doesn't seem to make sense. Not only did Jesus not claim to be His Father, but He gave us ever indication that His Father was a separate individual.

However, Jesus DID claim to be god. He claimed that He was Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the Great I AM. It is because of this claim that some people get confused between Him and His Father.

That confusion has persisted and has resulted in many differing theologies among the various christian sects. Thank goodness for the restoration of truth in these latter days. The vision that Joseph Smith had cleared up the nature of God once and for all. God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ appeared to Joseph. God the Father motioned to Jesus and said to Joseph, "This is my beloved Son. Hear Him." In that moment, Joseph realized the true nature of God: That He is perfect and glorified and that He has a physical body like a man. That He is a separate being from His Son, Jesus Christ. That Jesus Christ also is perfect and glorified and also has a perfect, immortal physical body.

Answer 4

There are 3 persons in the God=Head:

1. God the Living Almighty Father.

2. Jesus Christ the Living Only begotten Son in the flesh

3. The Holy Ghost, the mediator between you and Jesus Christ

The Holy Ghost might talk to you in a whisper, if you live right.

Jesus Christ is the God of this Universe,

He takes His Orders from His Father, the Almighty God.

He is obedient to all calls he get from Him.

This is the old gospel that has come back to your knowledge,

Take it or reject it,

Be blessed or ignorant!

It is called obedience

Answer 5

well, you can thank the overly zealous christian roman church for that one, some 1000 years ago. the initial trinity was the holy spirit (ghost was added later and yes, that is silly.), jesus the prophet and the almighty being (insert god here). many years after the apostles died, the church looking to streamline the church and doctrines within took many silly, albeit well-meaning but still silly/foolish, steps to consolidate the religion. it got together in a rather big gathering in rome and accepted some bibles and literally threw out others they considered heresy. what was left was disjointed and also left gaps in church dogma. know what? this is 2007 and almost 2008 AD so you insert what you want, believe what you chose, follow what you see fit to follow, etc. if this is your religion, then make it yours. don't let organized religion organize your life and beliefs. it's ok to do this as more good deeds are done OUTSIDE church than while inside, right?

Answer 6

Jesus Christ is deity as no human being could take upon himself the sins of the world, die upon the cross, and bring himself up again. I do agree with you, however, that Christ, The Father, and the Holy Ghost are three distinct separate personages.

It is repeated so spoken in the bible. While separate, they are ONE in purpose. That is mentioned when Christ said "the Father and I are one." It does not mean they are one person. Just like when we are taught that when you get married, you become ONE. Does not mean that the husband and wife fuse into a single person.

Answer 7

People tend to believe what their god tells them without Really realizing who their god is.
2 Corinthians 4:3,4 says...... If, now, the good news we declare is in fact veiled, it is veiled among those who are perishing, among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.
And at John 14:28 says...I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am. So Jesus declared that they weren't equal and that his father and he were evidently two seperate beings because how can you go away to yourself? siilllyy.
Also Isaiah 40:25 says But to whom can YOU people liken me so that I should be made his equal?” says the Holy One.
And when Jesus said, when you've seen me you've seen the father also" he didn't mean literally because millions saw Jesus but the God says “You are not able to see my face, because no man may see me and yet live.” found at Exodus 33:20

Answer 8

Just to add something I was reading the book of John the other day. Tiny bit of history on John the Babtise, he was a cousin of Jesus. An OLDER cousin and everyone knows that to be true. Anyway there is a passage when John states that Jesus was before him. How would that make sense if John was older than Jesus but yet Jesus was before John. Answer, Jesus had to be God in order for that to make sense. I'm sure there are lots of famous versus that prove the trinity to be true. Thats just something I came across.

good day

Answer 9

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Answer 10

Lynn: The bible also says a man and woman would become "one" in marriage. Obviously we are not LITERALLY one. It signifies the closeness of the bond. Also a "popular" scripture used in the world - John 3:16. How could God send HIMSELF. When one studies the bible - all of it - not just one verse chosen to "prove" their belief - they will see that there really is no trinity...

Answer 11

The three are separate individuals, ONE is purpose, will, and authority.

Jesus is considered God because, with the authority given to Him by the Father and under the direction and guidance of God, Jesus created all things physically upon and above the earth. IOW He is the one that spoke the world into being.