I enjoy the show and think it is wonderful what he does. His methods may seem cruel but in the wild wolves do use some physical touching to set each other back in line. Obviously when "kicking" the dog when walking you aren't supossed to kick hard, jsut enough to get the dog to pay attention. And he is right you have to stay calm but also assertive otherwise a dog feels that there is no leader and that they have to be the leader to fill that position. He doesn't beat dogs into sumission, most dogs want to have a leader and follow. Many dogs do not want to be dominant. Many of the times when he seems cruel it si the cases where he is the last resort. None of these animals are broken or beaten, but they are put into a follower position in the pack. Of course it is a tv show and they don't show just how long it may really take to solve problems. But his methods work, and the dogs he has trained or helped solve behavioral problems for are now happy family pets. Of course you need more than just calm assertive energy but it plays a big part. If you have that calm assertive energy a ddog will trust and respect you. They feel that they don't have to worry because you are calm and they don't have to try and be leader because you are assertive. Dogs are dogs and are best treated as dogs. Not humans, may sound cruel, but I love my dog to death but I treat her as a dog. And she is happy, playful, loyal, and trusting and I used Ceasar's methods. She isn't broken, sad, or beaten. She in fact is more involved in the family now. Dogs like to be dogs, they enjoy knowing what they can and cannot do, they like having a leader so they can just follow. So yes, I do really respect Ceasar as a dog trainer and owner. He cares about dogs, have you seen his pack? Some of those dogs woul have been put down but he saved them. And they are not sad or untrusting at all. They are happy dogs who get what they need and enjoy being aprt of the pack and being a dog. Of course not all his methods work for every dog. Not every case needs that. Dogs have different personalities and levels of domincance you need to determine that before training your dog as there is not just one method that works.
2007-12-18 00:25:32
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answered by conure_chick 5
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Since it is obvious that you do not have a clue about obedience training, your services should be for free. You cannot train even an adult dog for 8 hours a day. About the most that can be done at any one time is 10 - 20 minutes and that is with an adult dog and not a puppy. The attention span on this baby is extremely short and training session should be no more than 10 minutes and twice a day. Additionally, there isn't going to be much learned if you will only be training for 5 days. Obedience training is cumulative and is done over a much longer period of at least several weeks to several months.
What you can charge is determined by your experience, reputation, and accomplishments and in a case like this, should also include guaranteed expectations. Just working with dogs over several years, is not the experience that is necessary to be a dog trainer. There are too many people who are putting that title to their name and fleecing the public. Don't be one of them.
2014-10-22 21:27:04
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answered by Anonymous
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I think he is a hack !!!!
He confuses "calm, submissive" with fear. Next time you watch the show look at the dogs, they're not calm, they're afraid of being hurt again.
The business of the dog always being behind you and not being allowed to look around without having you yank his leash is just idiotic. Next time you are watching a nature film about wolves in the wild take notice of whether they run in tight formation like the Blue Angels, not watching anything but the alpha.
While I don't disagree that dogs need to know who the leader or alpha is, I do disagree with Cesar's constant quest to prove he's more macho than the dogs he's dealing with.
The pack mentality for domestic dogs is somewhat different than it would be in the wild. I'd love to see an episode of the Dog Whisperer where Cesar goes among a pack of wild dogs and makes that shushing noise and points to quiet the pack down.
In the wild dogs don't have their meals provided for them every 8-12 hours and the life span of a wolf in the wild is about 9 years.
I will, however, give Cesar Milan his due for being able to convince so many people they should shell out $350 to$500 plus expenses just to have him come to their home and tell them to walk the dog.
2007-12-18 01:33:15
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answered by Dr. Quackenbush 5
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i even have been given to spend some days around Cesar on an identical time as in his area for a canine coach. observed him artwork with a German Shepherd and an APBT and it truthfully works. No cameras, no followers, purely him, the canine and a few fellow APBT followers and rescuers. We left with somewhat some tips that have been fairly valuable as we manage a Pit bull sanctuary. no longer each and every thing works for each guy or woman, yet he's an extremely advantageous, quiet guy. the television character is slightly over the splendid, he's not loud in any respect in guy or woman.
2016-11-03 22:40:35
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answered by ? 4
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Yes I do like Cesar. I really admire his approach and wish I could be more like him. A lot of people think his methods are cruel and out of date but I cannot understand why. I think most of the time these people just don't interpret what he says and does in the right way. I have never seen him hurt a dog, and he only used an electric collar once, and that's because he's in America where their use is still commonplace. He doesn't beat dogs, stand on their paws, etc- those are out of date methods. And they're also TRAINING methods. He isn't training the dog, he is 'rehabilitating' it, using methods which sometimes put the dog in a bit of an unpleasant situation, because the dog has been allowed to get itself into a fearful/aggressive state of mind over the years. He soon has the dog relaxed, perhaps after a short spell of resistance. But their spirit was not broken, as some people say. They are happier. Some people just can't get over the short period of resistance where the dog looked scared or yelped or something- but the dog's okay. Cesar wouldn't do anything which would scar the dog for life, and he isn't beating the dog into submission he's just calmly insisting that the dog face the problem and learn a better way of behaving.
Positive reinforcement training doesn't solve all problems. If a dog is snarling and ready to bite another dog offering him a treat and telling him to sit isn't always going to work. With positive reinforcement training you have to have read books, gone to classes, practiced and memorized a sequence of steps just to get your dog to not pull on the lead, or not bark- all the while bribing them....you are begging them to behave and they will not respect you, even if they learn the action.
You shouldn't have to go to so much trouble just for your dog to respond to you- but that doesn't automatically mean you have to start hurting them, or that all people who think this way are automatically 'old-fashioned' or cruel.
Positive reinforcement training is fine for teaching individual actions but they don't solve issues and they cannot be applied to all situations- that's why it is wrong to compare Cesar's methods with those of dog 'trainers' because he isn't just getting the dog to perform an action on cue, he getting the dog to make the choice to act/respond in a desirable way- a way that comes naturally to the dog because you are actually communicating with him instead of just training them to do a trick. Cesar's way is more of a philosophy than a method, I suppose.The reward that the dog gets is a life that has structure, a good relationship with the owner, a calm mental state....not just a click or a treat.
My opinion is that of course we all want to be kind to our dogs. But some things in life require things that are unpleasant in order to move forward. People used to be oo harsh on their dogs, now people are gng too far the other way and are literally phobic about the words 'dominance' or 'punishment' without actually thinking them through. Is there no such thing as a happy medium?
Anyway, when I hear people talking badly about Cesar I know they are over reacting, over emotional and not listening to his message. They don't understand the difference between training and rehabilitation and they are too quick to glaze over and then become anti- Cesar.
2007-12-18 01:19:45
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answered by skyespirit86 3
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He's a cutie for sure, but unfortunately he is not showing people the best ways to train their dogs. Sorry. He's just not. The techniques he uses are very old fashioned and for many dogs could make matters worse (you are seeing selected cases on TV and there is a disclaimer at the start of the show to dissuade people from 'trying this at home'). Telling people to be calm assertive, doesn't really give them much info on how dogs learn new behaviors. Also his theories about pack hierarchy are based on old, disproved studies of captive wolf packs. You can often force a dog to do something, but it's not as enpowering as helping it 'learn how to learn'. This is true for both dog and trainer. Getting a dog to understand how to offer behaviors is way better than just getting a dog to stop doing something you don't like, or making it do what you want, by putting a collar and leash on it, or pushing it around. A dog trained this way can learn all kinds of things, because he's not afraid to do something wrong, he's not going to get yelled at or pushed around, or jerked around by the neck.
I think that he has a good sense of dogs, but far too many people don't and so the whole pack leader, who's dominant thing leads them to be abusive to their dogs (and get themselves bit). People see all problem behavior through the lens of this and assume that their dog is 'challenging' them or 'needs a leader' when in fact there are lots of other reasons dogs behave inappropriately. Cesar's techniques are especially dangerous when used on scared dogs. Sure he's shown where he's had success, but believe me, do what he suggests on many scared dogs and the dog not only can't deal with it, but gets worse. He doesn't show these cases on his show.
Probably the worst is that people think that after watching his show they are dog trainers and recommend his techniques, which again, are not appropriate for many dogs.
Getting dogs out to run and exercise is great advice. But when people find that being 'calm assertive' doesn't get them the result they need they often react just plain assertive with their dogs.
www.fearfuldogs.com
2007-12-18 00:10:47
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answered by Anonymous
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The man is cool i watch him all the time. I have put into practice several things with other peoples dog troubles and it as worked.He seems to do it straight away on telly but i think in some cases it must take a while to sort and they do not show us the failures.I do not think he is a cruel person he loves is dogs to much.Anyway i think he is great and i will continue to watch him every week..
2007-12-18 04:41:28
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answered by wendy e 3
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Cesar Milan has a website. I watch the program sometimes and I haven't even got a dog, but practised the techniques when a neighbours dog got into our garden. You just need to be one step ahead of them really.
Mr. Milan must be on good income; his teeth are very white.
2007-12-17 22:26:54
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answered by Julia H 4
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Cesar Milan is a "performer". If you love your dog, you may want to investigate his views on what dogs are for. You will be disappointed, I fear, as he really doesn't value dogs as pets. In addition, some of his training methods are downright cruel. He breaks the spirits of dogs with issues, and has been investigated more than once for dog deaths because of his treadmill treatments.
I do not agree with the "negative" reinforcement and "physical" forms of training. It may work to train your dog through intimidation and fear, but you never seem to end up with a dog who trusts you. I would much rather have my dog obey me out of respect and trust than out of fear.
Edit: Apparently some people are not familiar with positive reinforcement training from some of the answers here. Negative reinforcement does not solve issues-it masks them with fear. And positive reinforcement is not giving a treat. People should read up. Cesar has also used shock collars numerous times-it is part of his training technique-read his books!
Wow! I just read another answer from someone who thinks it is a waste of time to have to study techniques to train! It is NEVER a good idea to take the short road with a dog. If you are too lazy to do the homework, don't own a dog! I have a fear aggressive dog myself, and I would never consider using his tactics. The training I used worked perfectly and I now have a well-behaved dog who doesn't fear bite anyone. Proof positive that no one has to resort to his tactics to train even a dog with serious issues. I had to work for it, and I believe all the work was well worth my result.
Dog ownership is not supposed to be easy. Anything worth anything takes work-people who don't believe that are just plain lazy.
Edit: Flute-AMEN!!!
2007-12-17 23:34:21
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answered by anne b 7
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We tend to think of dog training as a series of steps for teaching particular behaviors. To teach a dog to stay in a particular position, you reward her as she remains in place for gradually longer times, at gradually greater distances, with gradually increasing degrees of distraction. Read more https://tr.im/y2dAr
Now, this is fine, training does involve teaching dogs specific behaviors with a step-by-step approach. This week, though, I’m going to discuss three mental habits that will not only enable you train more effectively but also make life pleasant for both you and your dog.
2016-02-15 18:06:54
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answered by ? 3
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