Someone, can you please explain why Vick is worse than meat eaters?

Question

Michael Vick did a terrible thing. He hung, drowned, tortured and forced dogs to fight.

Now, I ask you, how is that any worse than what our meat industry does to beef, pork, fowl, and fish?

As consumers of such "food", are we not endorsing cruelty to animals?

Answer 1

Funny, I was just wondering the same thing a few minutes ago. Yes, what he did was wrong, but not only is the same treatment of animals raised for food just as wrong, but its ENDORSED by the government! The government actually subsidises the meat industry, and supports the use of antibiotics, steroids, and growth hormones all to overcome the deplorable conditions animals are kept in. Vicks attorneys should have used THAT for his defense. It would be hard logic to argue with. One only needs to go to meetyourmeat.com or factoryfarming.org to see what goes on in the meat industry. It surprises me how many "animal lovers" mow down dead animals for dinner each night. I have a friend who "rescues" all sorts of strays, injured animals, etc., yet sits down to a meal of slaughtered cow, chicken or pig each day. I guess its okay in her mind to "choose" which animals to love, and which to consume. Makes no sense to me. I see no reason for anything to bleed or die in order for me to eat, when mother nature provides so many delicious foods that are plant based

Answer 2

I don't consider it much worse. I believe most view it as worse because the animal is being tortured for sport as opposed as being used for food. In other words since they have enjoyment in the act of cruelty they are looked down as vicious. It is like a person who shot someone for self defense and someone who shot some random person on the street for fun. The end result is the same but one person took enjoyment in the slaughter which was pointless. The other is happy they were able to defend themselves but it was not something they did out of enjoyment but for survival. Many meat-eaters believe they need meat to survive or just plain love the taste but they do not see what is happening behind closed doors. The people that work for the company do it to make money for their means of survival. Michael Vick does not need to torture dogs to live.

Answer 3

Yes, it is worse.

It's worse because Michael Vick knew what he was doing. He got his jollies watching tortured animals kill each other. He is a sadist and he does what he does with full knowledge of what he is doing and with the intent to do it.

The vast majority of people really have no idea where their meat is coming from. If you ask someone at random where their meat comes from, I can almost guarantee you they will say, "The store." Did any of us know before we were vegetarians? Sure we knew the general idea, but did we really know what was going on... of course not.

What is important is people's intent. Most people eat meat without thinking about it, it is just food to them. They do not intend for animals to be killed, they just intend to eat, and think it is alright because they are not taking part in the abuse first hand.

Vick's intention was to laugh as the dogs he had beaten for several months tore each other apart. To me, this is obviously worse.

Answer 4

yes we do need to eat but who says we need to torture and kill animals while we do so? I don't eat meat and i certainly do eat. and Jeff have you ever seen the videos of cows and pigs being hung upside down by their limbs while a guy guts them while still fully conscious? Or chickens being shoved into crates that break their legs and then when they get their beaks cut off with hot blades. I'm sure you wouldn't think food animals are killed quickly if you saw those. Do some more research. And i do see a good similarity between the meat business and what Michael Vick did. They're still animals. who the hell gave them the right to disrespect any living creature? it's absurd

Answer 5

Well Jeff you are wrong about that. Most chickens are still alive when they are put into hot boiling water to take off their feathers. Most animals do not die instantly. Yes we are endorsing cruelty to animals by eating meat. Most of the meat that we get now a days are from factory farms, which I can tell you are one of the most nasty torturous places there are. No thought is given to the animals, they are left to suffer. So by consuming meat, we are endorsing this kind of cruelty.

Answer 6

Hey, I'd love to see the animal industry execs face some punishment for their sanctioned abuse of billions of animals, but since many lawmakers are lint in their pockets, that will happen about the thirteenth of never. It's also on a far greater scale than all the animal fighters in the world combined.

As one poster pointed out, some people have swallowed the propaganda that humans "need" animals' flesh, cows' milk, and chickens' eggs to be healthy. There is also a huge disconnect between animals we see as pets and animals we see as food, where we love one and eat the other. Not many people besides farmers get up close and personal with a cow, a pig, or a chicken. But many people either live with dogs, know someone who does, and/or have interactions with OPD (other people's dogs) on a somewhat regular basis.

Animal fighting, especially when it comes to dogs, is fairly low-hanging fruit. It's easier to get people angry about someone running animal fighting operations than it is to get them angry about the abuse and slaughter of cows, pigs, chickens, ducks, etc., because of their societally programmed perceptions.

And yes, you should ask this of omnivores.

Answer 7

Absolutely. Factory farming is not only cruel, it's dangerous. Many animals used for beef drop dead and are not even tested for Mad Cow Disease before they are butchered and served to you -- or rendered, ground up and added to the grain of other cows! And as far as cow's milk, why would you drink that? It is a substance intended for the nourishment of the cows' offspring. Contrary to popular belief, I am not a heiffer, so I refuse to drink it. Anyway, it's so full of pus and growth hormones that it's disgusting. (Cows only give milk if they are pregnant or have recently given birth. To keep the milk supply going, cows are put on a "rape rack" and artificially inseminated so that they give birth over and over until their bodies just give out...then they are slaughtered. Whatta life.) Chickens and other fowl are kept in spaces so confined that they don't have room to run around. Workers are so cruel to them that broken bones are common. Ever eat a KFC chicken leg and wonder why it's so crooked? Everyone should read The Mad Cowboy by Howard Lyman for more info. (He's the former cattle farmer who won't eat meat -- the one who was on Oprah, told the truth, and the cattle industry tried to sue: but because he was telling the truth, he won his case.)

Answer 8

Vick is evil. No comment about meat eaters & meat industry. We are programed to believe that we need protein or our family raise us with animals meal (*mommy will be upset if you don't eat your dinner that she prepared).

Answer 9

Livestock destined to be food is not hung, drowned, tortured, and forced to fight. The animals are humanely killed. I see a WORLD of difference between me, a carnivore and dog-lover, and Vick, a greedy dog fighter.

Answer 10

He didn't eat what he killed. Of course, that only applies to other animals and not humans. Jeffrey Dahmer could not use that as a defense.

Some people have swallowed the propaganda that all meat is unhealthy. This is inaccurate. Essentially, it's a lie.

Some people believe we need to eat meat. That is inaccurate as well. As omnivores, it is a natural option available to us if we so choose.