What do Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses think about each other's validity?

Question

Is a main tenet in a cult to have works as a condition for salvation?

Answer 1

Actually tHE "Main Tenet" in APOSTASY is thinking that a Person can Be Saved By BASICALLY "(Sitting on tHE)ir Hands" ! ! !

tHEse "SIT ON hands" Christians LIKE 2 USE tHE word "Grace" ! ! !

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Answer 2

I'm a Mormon, so I'll answer that I'm not sure what you mean by "validity"... obviously we don't think the Jehovah's Witnesses are right about everything or we'd be Jehovah's Witnesses instead of Mormons. But they're no less "valid" than any other religion. Your beliefs are your beliefs.

As for the second part of your question, I don't know much about cults, since I'm not in one. The LDS Church (Mormons) is NOT a cult. I don't think the Jehovah's Witnesses are, either, although I don't know much about them.

We do believe in good works as a condition for salvation-- but not that any person on Earth can be as perfect as God. We believe in being "saved by grace after all we can do." Meaning, yes you do have to at least TRY to be good. Your sins don't get forgiven if you don't repent of them, and part of repenting is changing your ways.

Does that answer the question?

Answer 3

I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses. What do you mean by validity? I think they are a different religion from mine.

I've talked to Mormons at school, work, when they came to my home, and when they approached me in the parking lot. I used to have a neighbor who was Mormon. I've talked to them when I went door to door. The Mormons I've met have ranged from devout practicing to superbozo or "Jack" Mormon. One is now excommunicated from the Mormon religion.

I believe people have the right to choose how to live their life and which religion they want to belong to or don't want to belong to. So, in that respect, I believe they are a valid religion. However, I know they are not the right religion for me. That's why I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

They are some similarities but many differences. Other people who have answered your question have already done a good job of explaining those similarities and differences.

Roughly 90 percent of Jehovah's Witnesses are active or practicing, so the other person who claimed our membership was over 15 million was wrong. 15 million is the number of individuals who attended our yearly Memorial of Jesus' last supper with his disciples. This includes non-Witness relatives, friends, neighbors, and Bible students of active Jehovah's Witnesses. Many disfellowshipped JWs and inactive JWs also attend this Memorial. You could say that the Memorial is to JWs what the Easter celebration is to Roman Catholics.

Answer 4

Not only is it the main tenet of a "cult" but it is the main tenet of the Bible to have works for your salvation. Christ said it himself. I can give you at least 10 references in the Bible that say works are necessary for salvation.

Care to know where they are located? Look in Matthew for starters and see what Christ said about it. Several others are in the Epistle of James.

Find those and then lets talk.

Answer 5

Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses don't think any more about their "validity" than Methodists, Baptists, Catholics, Episcopalians, Scientologists, or any other organized religious sect.

Until the age or 48, I was a member of the United Methodist Church, studied with the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses, and eventually was confirmed into the Catholic Church. My first husband was a member of the Southern Baptist Church, who studied for the ministry at a Baptist university.

Neither the Mormon Church or the Jehovah's Witnesses have ever denied the existence of Jesus Christ, and both exhalt the same God the Methodists, Baptists, Catholics, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Church of Christ, and every Christian religion exhalts.

Check out Islam!

Answer 6

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism) is a beautiful Christian religion, not a cult. This very question has been in the news lately; several reporters have pointed out that even the Southern Baptist Convention (a very large evangelical organization in the United States) lists Mormonism under the category "newly developed religions," not "cults and sects." You should be extremely careful when trying to learn about Mormons from others. There are many who hate the Mormons and spread lies, distortions, and conspiracy theories about them. Others think they understand Mormon doctrine because of "what they've heard," but are actually misinformed. I think learning about Mormonism from actual Mormons (from Mormon missionaries, from Mormon members, or from sites created and maintained by Mormons on the Internet) is much better than trusting second-hand information.

Because Mormons are Christian, we believe in most of the things that Christians believe, including:

1) Christ is divine and salvation comes only through Him.
2) The Bible is the word of God.
3) Men ought to love one another.

Mormons are a unique branch of Christianity, however. We are neither Catholic nor Protestant, so naturally we have some different beliefs. Most of the differences are minor. One significant difference has to do with the authority to act in God's name. Mormons believe that soon after the death of Christ and His apostles, the early Christian Church was greatly influenced by Greek and Roman philosophies and political pressures. Despite the efforts of many good men and women, the true Church of Christ was eventually lost because of these outside pressures and internal, man-made changes. Mormons believe that God reestablished the original Church of Christ in 1820 through a man named Joseph Smith.

To learn more about Mormons, visit my site at http://www.allaboutmormons.com !

Hope this helps! Mormon Christianity has changed my life by helping me better follow Jesus Christ.

Answer 7

well I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

What I know about about Mormons is there membership compared to us.

Worldwide memberships or people attending there services as of 2006.


Jehovah's Witnesses: 16,675,113
Mormons: 12,868,606

Worldwide there are over 6,741,444 JW's preaching around the world, and over 50,000 to 60,000 Mormons I believe.

I don't hate Mormons, I respect them, after all they are kind of smilier to us in many whys, but also different too. I work with a Mormon, he is really nice, we talk about each others belief's a lot. We agree on somethings, and somethings we don't. In fact from my experience, and many others as well, Mormons are very easy to talk to, and listen to our belief's more often then members of other faiths do.

Answer 8

Every religion is a cult.

Why do people think they can just call another group a cult and because they say so, it is.
Basically you are claiming anyone that doesnt believe exactly like you is a cult. It doesnt matter that the Bible mentions works as essential. You dont agree with that doctrine, so its a cult.

If your definition of a cult is anyone that doesnt agree with your interpretation of the Bible then I get to call you a cult and every other sect that doesnt agree with you perfectly can also call your sect a cult. By your own logic you would be a cult, too.


Mormons dont find it neccesary to focus on other peoples religions. We focus on our own faith and beliefs. Even our missionaries are taught to share their testimony and our beliefs but dont go around telling other people what is wrong with their individual religions. Bible bashing proves nothing. This is all individual interpretations and beliefs that noone else can prove to another. Spending your time trying to tear down other religions also proves nothing except that you must not have very much to say about your own beliefs if you have to focus on someone elses.



You and telldatruth and that guy joseph on here should start an anti mormon group. You can all congratulate each other on how you are saving us poor misguided brainwashed cult members.

Answer 9

Christianity has differed over the the Impact the atonement has on believers....

Basicly there are three main theories...

classical ransom, Abelardian theory, and the Anselmian satisfaction theory.


Mormon doctrine encompasses a substitution theory of the Atonement complimented by their own scripture...:

"The relationship of justice, mercy, agency, and God's unconditional love. Christ's infinite atonement was required to satisfy the demands of justice based on eternal law, rendering Him Mediator, Redeemer, and Advocate with the Father. Thus, he proffers divine mercy to the truly penitent who voluntarily come unto him, offering them the gift of his grace to "lift them up" and "be perfected in Him" through his merits (2 Nephi 2 and 9; Alma 12, 34, and 42; Moroni 9:25; 10:33; compare Isaiah 55:1-9). "

They often will quote you James 2:20 ("faith without works is dead")

all three main theories are well founded in scripture....

JW's were split over their view of the atonement, a form of substitutionary atonement, and some of those views can be read here in their own words:


http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/docs/1878_Herald_of_the_Morning.pdf

Mormons are extremely tolerant, more so than the questioner I dare say, and in their "Pearl of Great Price" you'll find their 11th article of faith:

"11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may. "

Answer 10

Relentless gave this scripture; "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast." Eph. 2:8-9
Correct; that means YOU cannot save yourself. It is ONLY through Christ Jesus can you be saved. You show your "Love" (that is works) by saving someone else and leading that other to God Almighty. "Whosoever did this for the least did it for me." Your faith/love/works depends on what YOU DO for your fellow man. Your words and actions must be with good motives. God reads the heart first you know. Remember that.

Answer 11

Did you notice

that all the previous answerers quoting Hallalluya didn't show their faces?

In answer to your question.

They both think each other invalid, this is how shallow they are. If you have any sence at all, just take them both for what they are.

Which is a bunch of people, so entwined in their own little worlds (which for them is their haven) that they are prepared to indoctrinate all their off-springs with their own manic views. NOT NICE PEOPLE and certainly not the American way!