Mormons :How would a mormon president answer?

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Mormons :How would a mormon president answer?

2007-12-04 16:14:27 · 11 answers · asked by Brad 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality

11 answers

1. Alma 46:40 says ……to which men were subject.. 1981 version
……which was subsequent to man.. 1830 version
Which one is correct?
2. 2 Thess 1:9 was written in 51-52 A.D.
John 5:20 was written 85-90 A.D.
Helaman 12:25,26 was supposedly written in 7 B.C. How could this be accurate if the same verses were written in the Bible 90 years later?

3. 1 Nephi 11:18 ,21,32 . Added : the son

http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Mormon_textual_changes
http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Mormon_translation_chronology

4. Was Jesus born in Bethlehem or Jerusalem?

http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Mormon_anachronisms:Jerusalem_vs_Bethlehem

5. Were humans born in a pre-existent realm?

Humans aren't born in the pre-existance.
They were intelligences then progressed into
spirits. Humans are only born in the physical realm that we are in today.

6. Did your church teach black people are black because of their misdeeds in the pre-existent realm?

http://en.fairmormon.org/Blacks_and_the_priesthood
http://en.fairmormon.org/index.php?title=Racist_statements_by_Church_leaders

They are no neutrals in the war in heaven.
You either picked Jesus's plan or Lucifer's plan.

7. Forgiveness of murder? Why does D&C say there is not?

1st John 3:
14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

8. How were the gold nephite plates moved?

By horse. There were picked by Joseph and held in a clothbag to his house.

9. Read John 4:24 and Luke 24:39. Does this a agree with LDS belief of a flesh and bones Father?

What John said was about the Holy Spirit. Which is with every believer and is spirit. The Holy Spirit is God too.

10. Why did Brigham Young make a prophecy that the Civil War would not free the slaves? History of the Church vol 2 p. 182

This one I haven't read but will. If it was in volume 2 It would be around 1833-1834. Section 87 of the D&C says the war between the states would start in South Carolina and there would be a lot of bloodshed. The prophecy became true that it was the bloodiest war in American history more than all the wars combined. Joseph Smith died 17 years before the war started. As for Brigham Young prophecying at that time, he wasn't the Prophet of the church at that time.
EDIT: Having read DHC Vol. 2 pg. 182
It is a vision of Joseph Smith seeing Brigham Young becoming a member of the quorum of 12 Apostles & has nothing to do with Brigham Young prophecying.

11. Why did Brigham Young teach the Adam-God theory for 25 years?

http://en.fairmormon.org/Adam-God

12. Read Col. 1:15,16, John 1:1, and Hebrews 13:8 versus LDS belief that Jesus became a god.

Jesus isn't a God, he is God and part of the Godhead with the Father and Holy Spirit. Lds doesn't believe in the Nicean creed of the three in one substance and essence.

13. Why do scientists say that Native American DNA is not of Jewish descent?

http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Mormon_and_DNA_evidence
http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Brochures/DNA_and_the_Book_of_Mormon.pdf
http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Brochures/Were_the_Lehites_Alone.pdf

14. The LDS claim the ancient papyri that Joseph Smith supposedly translated from Egyptian language to create the book of Abraham was burned in a fire when, later in 1967 it was rediscovered and examined by people who could translate Egyptian. All stated that the papyri were funerary documents commonly called the Egyptian book of the Dead. (Read Dear Elder page 1 and 2.) How could a real prophet falsify this?

http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham_papyri
http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham_papyri_(long)

and for some other things anti mormons bring up.
Here are some answers for LDS

Archaelogy and The Book of Mormon
http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Brochures/Archaeology_and_the_Book_of_Mormon.pdf

What is Mormon Doctrine
http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Brochures/What_is_Mormon_Doctrine.pdf

Did God have sex with Mary?
http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Brochures/Did_God_have_Sex_with_Mary.pdf

Is Lucifer the brother of Jesus
http://www.fairlds.org/FAIR_Brochures/Is_Lucifer_the_Brother_of_Jesus.pdf

2007-12-10 07:55:53 · answer #1 · answered by Brother G 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋

1) Having only your word on this, I assume that an error was found and corrected.

2)I'm missing your point, are you saying these are the only places such a thing could be written? Do you find it absolutely impossible that there might have been writings prior that stated the same thing?

3)See answer to one.

4) Bethlehem

5) That's a tough one. I don't know. I do know we are all spirit children of our Father which would seem to indicate there was a birth of some sort. But I'm not aware of any teaching regarding Birth.

6) Not as far as I am aware. I am aware that there were people within the Church who thought this, however, I'm not aware of the Church ever sanctioning this idea.

7) I do not see as to where the D&C says there is not. The closes I can come to something like unto what you indicate is the following...

27 The blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, which shall not be forgiven in the world nor out of the world, is in that ye commit murder wherein ye shed innocent blood, and assent unto my death, after ye have received my new and everlasting covenant, saith the Lord God; and he that abideth not this law can in nowise enter into my glory, but shall be damned, saith the Lord.

Perhaps the way you interpret it is not the same way I do.

8) Through various means. I'm going to assume by this question you are referring to the fact that Joseph on occasion carried the plates and being gold they should be quite heavy. Except there was never a claim that they were made of "pure" gold.

And then there is the following:

A solid gold block of totaling 288 cubic inches would weigh a little over 200 pounds.... But the plates would weigh much less than a solid block of the same metal. The unevenness left by the hammering and air spaces between the separate plates would reduce the weight to probably less than 50 percent of the solid block. (Putnam, 829-830.)

9) Yep, god being a Spirit does not preclude him from also having a body of flesh and bone.

D&C 93: 33.
33 For man is spirit. The elements are eternal, and spirit and element, inseparably connected, receive a fullness of joy;

10) I am unfamiliar with this prophecy and History of the Church vol 2 p.182 does not contain any mention of it, so I am unable to comment.

11) Don't know. I'm not certain that he taught it as long as you contend. I do know that Wilford Woodruff in his journals indicates that it wasn't something all the leaders of the church agreed on. I'm not aware of him teaching it in his roll as a prophet or president of the church. I do know that Brigham Young was the right man for the job at the time. Joseph was the one who reveled new knowledge to the saints, I do not think this was Brigham Young's calling although I believe he certainly did this at times. I believe his calling was to lead the saints in the more mundane struggles they would face.

12) I've always been taught quite clearly that Jesus is Jehovah of the Old Testament. So I'm not sure where you get this.

13) The Jewish population has been decimated and rebuilt from only a small population over the last 2600 years. We do not have record of what other people Native Americans encountered after Moroni completed the record we have. So a lack in similarity in DNA is not surprising. It's all about who survived and who didn't.

14) Many people brought many different papyri to Joseph Smith. Can you say with absolute certainty that the papyri "rediscovered" was the papyri translated into the book of Abraham by Joseph Smith? What is Dear Elder? I don't know what you are talking about here.

2007-12-04 18:57:52 · answer #2 · answered by zenock 4 · 9⤊ 0⤋

Why would anyone waste their time with silly questions, that have nothing to do with a religion's validity or not? If you want to know if a religion is true, pray to God about it, and trust the answer you get.

Criticism of this nature is a waste of time. Any effort to respond to criticism, slander or misrepresentation is weighted in favor of the critic. With a single "authoritive" quote a critic can raise doubts or give an impression which might take pages to correctly understand or correct.

2007-12-12 07:25:21 · answer #3 · answered by notoriousnicholas 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋

What in the world do any of these questions have to do with being president of the United States?

As Mr. Romney said, he is an AMERICAN running for president. He is NOT a MORMON running for president.

Why not ask someone like Huckabee something like, what are you going to do with all these non-Christian religions in this oh-so-Christian nation?

edit: Now I get it. You want to ask the MORMON PRESIDENT. You can ask Pres. Gordon B. Hinckley, but if you read all his talks you can probably find the answers.

2007-12-06 08:12:12 · answer #4 · answered by mormon_4_jesus 7 · 3⤊ 0⤋

Why does it problem you that a President could sense an perpetually significant criminal duty to maintain united states of america risk-free, wealthy and unfastened? a number of your info are incorrect, by way of the way. > this is no longer an completely American faith - whether this is tricky to get others to have self belief united states of america is God's fashionable place, so . . . . > "The White Horse Prophecy" isn't primary as primary and has been soundly denounced. No authority of the Church has ever spoken in help of it. > they think as do enormously-plenty all religions that interior the "end situations" maximum individuals will % to undertake their faith. They neither seek for nor foresee any type of theocracy till "Jesus returns to rule in the international." > They use the observe "gods" a similar way the OT Hebrew texts do. A god is a supernatural and authoritative being and not unavoidably "God" as we are conscious of employing the observe. > God would not stay to tell the story Kolob. Kolob, in accordance to somewhat Mormon theology, as detrimental to Democrat claims, is the call of the movie star closest to the midsection of creation and is the main suitable reference for marking passage of "God's time."

2016-09-30 21:43:01 · answer #5 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋

You might want to refer to Romney's recent address on his faith given last week. He stated that he will take his "marching orders" from no religious source, but what is right for all Americans, and that he will uphold the Constitution of the United States.

2007-12-10 05:31:53 · answer #6 · answered by Kerry 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋

Why would a hypothetical Mormon president have to answer religious questions?

2007-12-05 08:21:55 · answer #7 · answered by LaraSue 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋

Stupid Question.

Not a single one of those has anything to do with the office of President.

.......Just another Mormon hater.

2007-12-10 08:41:50 · answer #8 · answered by Ender 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋

Why would he need to? He would be president not pastor. If you want to bash, I guess relating politics and religion is a violent punch, but I would say that you should make relevant connections. If you don't want to be LDS, that is fine. If you don't want to vote for Mitt, then don't. But no need to bash.

2007-12-04 16:22:32 · answer #9 · answered by moonman 6 · 7⤊ 3⤋

I would amagine Mitt Romney will dodge as many questions as he possibly can. But they will corner him before its over. And you will see the lies. You cannot defend a false religion without lieing. Thats the way God designed us. The truth will always come out. He has allready lied saying that they believe that Christ will return to the United States and reign for 1000 years just like the BIBLE TEACHES>>>NOT<<< nowhere does the Bible talk about the United States.

2007-12-04 16:33:42 · answer #10 · answered by 2telldatruth 4 · 2⤊ 8⤋