Its after the rapture, after the tribulation, and satan is bound up for 1000 years. Some of us have been told that after the rapture we go to heaven and get our mansion and live there with God and all our loved ones for eternity.
This teaching is not in the word at all.
Based on what the word actually shows us. What takes place during this 1000 years on earth with Christ and us as believers and co kings with Him.
JW's please save us from your doctrines today. I want an answer from born again believers.
Ty for taking the time to respond.
In Christ
sandy
2007-12-04 02:12:35 · 13 answers · asked by Broken Alabaster Flask 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
This is a very NEW revelation to me. I have seen something here that I have not seen before. What I have seen has in the past has not lined up to what is being taught by the chrch world.(They leave out parts of the puzzle) Although I had never seen fully all of this and have had many questions myself. I took time to seek the Lord about this. What I have is what he has given me.
We need to also look at the books of Thessalonians.
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Before I begin I'd like to say(don't take this that I am saying about the scholars as the gospel truth, wheither or not if a 1,000 really means 1,000) I heard some Bible scholars say a thousand does not necessarily mean a literal thousand. That was the way the writers refered to a large number of something. That does not change the scripture one way or another but may or may not help in the understanding.
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Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
These people here in verse 4 are martyrs reigning with Christ, giving their lives for the Lord. It does not say that they are here on Earth only that they are reigning with Christ.(For a very long space of time)
This is before the coming of the Lord because verse 5 talks about the rest of the dead are not living yet till after the thousand years.
5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
1 Thessalonians 4:16&17
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
(This is where the rest of the dead live again)
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
(These are not on Earth any more. Remember a new Heaven and Earth for the first are passed away.)
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We are reigning with Christ now on Earth in the Kingdom of God.
In verses 8& 9 we see the saints of God here on earth at the end during great tribulation.
8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints .....
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When this extended period of time has expired. Satan will be loosed upon the Earth to decieve many.
2 Thessalonians 2:7
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
What is this deception?
2 Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
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Last of all God will destroy Satan.
Revelation 20:9&10
9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
We see this also in 2 Thessalonians 2
2 Thessalonians 2:8
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
After this it is the resurection and judgement.
Revelation 20:11-15
11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Psalm 23:6
Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.
Think on these scriptures. Most churches teach things that leaves out some scipture. Many will toss their theroy in as well. We have to have the entire word or we are missing out.
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To put this into my own words. The martyrs who have given their lives for Jesus are with the Lord right now, some for thousands of years. Paul said absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. (He was a martyr also.)
By the power of the Holy Ghost, since it was given, we have reigned with Christ. As he is so are we in this world.
Satan has not been allowed to roam freely because of the Holy Ghost keeps him under subjection. The saints of God are becoming weak in the spirit and are falling away from God. They are letting the Spirit be taken out of the way. The man of sin will appear shortly.
Satan will be allowed during the tribulation to decieve the whole world. Claiming to be God. He will persecute(make war) the church(woman) who brings forth Jesus(man child). Before he is able to destroy all saints. God will destroy him with the brightness of his coming.
The dead in Christ will rise first. The saints that are alive will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air.
The wicked will be cast into hell.
Thank You Brother Don
2007-12-04 07:16:20 · answer #1 · answered by Old Hickory 6 · 4⤊ 1⤋
Well to start with you are taking several verses in the bible out of context and trying to connect them together at a point in time that was not implied. At the point Jesus physically returns to earth there is no complete judgment. Only the Anti-Christ and those who have worshiped him are removed from earth. Those who were beheaded for refusing to worship the Anti-Christ are raised. Those are the only two groups dealt with directly at his physical return. By inference we know that if a person had gone through the entire tribulation and had not taken the mark and worshiped the Anti-Christ they are left on the earth and enter the millenium. Worship of Christ is not required. We also know that belief and acceptance of Christ is not require because people have the choice of coming to Jerusalem once a year to offer to Christ an offering. If they fail to do it then they will receive no rain. If they had no choice then this would not be an issue. One other thing. At the end of the 1000 years Satan is loosed and in a "season"; a season is about three months. During this time he manages to raise an army without number to go against God. So if they have not choice but to worship God then how could Satan succeed? Where the every knee will bow and every tongue confess comes into play is in the final judgment at the end of the millenium. There all those who have rejected God will have to admit that he is God and bow before him.
2016-04-07 07:45:59 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yes that is what the word says but, during that time those who have died in Christ will have their new glorified bodies during the millennial reign, but I must do more studying to see if all Christians will reign during the 1000 years satan is bound or "only" those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands during the tribulation period will rule and reign with Him during the 1000 years.... B/c in verse 4 it clearly states "who" will rule and reign with Christ during those 1000 years.... and if all Christians who have died in the Faith don't rule and reign with Christ during that time, then I assume all Christians will rule and reign once the New Jerusalem will come down from Heaven and there is a new Heaven and New Earth. There's a lot to study....
But clearly there has to be humans that may have survived through the tribulation period and live 1000 years as it was in the days of Adam and Eve in the book of Genesis. Those humans(who are still subject to the sin nature) will have children during that time who will have children and they would have never had the opportunity to experience satan being loosed, and those who have not received their new Glorified bodies most will be decieved by satan b/c they have never experienced him being loosed on this earth...
7 Now when the thousand years have expired, satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.
Rev 20: 7-9
If there wasn't any other human beings left after the tribulation then, who could he have deceived the nations??? It's unclear if those who have received their new glorified bodies would be deceived by satan...
2007-12-04 02:30:47 · answer #3 · answered by unknown 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Satan will be locked up in the abyss for 1000 years (along with his demons
The Earth will be restored to it's original state
The dead will be resurrected
Satan will be let loose a little while to tempt the resurrected
Satan will then be destroyed permanently as if by fire
New heavens and New earth#
Gods original purpose right back from Genesis 1:28 will then be fulfilled
2007-12-04 02:25:52 · answer #4 · answered by kriss 2 · 3⤊ 0⤋
You are right. We rule on Earth as kings, but Jesus is the King of Kings.
Just because Satan is bound, that doesn't mean there will be no evil on the earth. We are born in to sin, but it will be easier without the Accuser after us.
After the 1000 year reign, the New Heaven and the New Earth will appear. I don't presume to know God's exact plan, but I do know it's going to be AWSOME!
2007-12-04 02:21:59 · answer #5 · answered by Jeff M 5 · 4⤊ 0⤋
The records (books) that God has kept will be opened for the righteous to judge. We the righteous will judge the angles and in a sense we will also be judging God. At the end of the 1000yrs the New Jerusalem will descend from heaven and God will create a new heaven and a new earth and the wicked will be resurrected. Then every knee will bow and confess the name of Jesus but all the wicked including Satan will be cast into the lake of fire and sin will be destroyed forever. The wicked will be burned up never to be again. They will not burn forever and ever without end.
2007-12-04 04:17:07 · answer #6 · answered by Bride of Christ 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Ok, all are in spiritual bodies. Some make the first resurrection to immortality to reign with Christ. Most remain mortal, liable to die the second death. It is a time of teaching and discipline. Satan released and the great white throne judgment.
The mansion is now, Christ abiding in us.
2007-12-04 02:21:37 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Man has wrote the bible and twisted Father God Word over
and
over, time after time, The key is; if I can get you to think that after 1.000 years the devil will be set free, then The mustard seed of doubt that Satan has created keeps you in the world frame of mind, which in-term makes Father God Word and His Promise a lie, you and I both know that Father God in Heaven don't lie,He is our God of all love and life and he lives forever and ever Remember in revalation john wrote; and angle came out of Heaven with a key to the Bottomless pitt and released the dragon which is Satan the devil, as soon as he came top side Jesus destroyed him, The part about the mansion Jesus said i'll go and prepare a place for you, where he is in us so are we in him that loves us forever and ever Amen. The Jews lie about Jesus and Father God in Heaven remember they was the one who Delivered Jesus to his Death, They are the one's in the Bible that Father God said beware of those so-called Jews for they are not Jews, so don't let that bother you to much, they will argue and argue but their blood-line of people is cursed forever, the-r doctrine is false, the Jews paid the White House for the War in Iraq, remember when Bush said on T.V. the war was funded by the Jews the riches people on the planet, When Jesus the Christ come he will be until eternity, the Devil ans those that worship him will be in the lake of fire forever and ever this is the Promise of Father God in Heaven, it is in the Bilble God said before my word come back void he would destroy everything, so that lets us know God keeps his Promises, it's Man that don't keep there's. I keep telling you in the Word of Godhe said he will show and tell you things no-one can show or tell you or can do,Have'nt you caught on to this yet Ms.Sandy, how else woulld you know if you don't ask him you must ask, and you shall recieve, he will show you he will tell you, he will take you there.This is how I Know I asked. and I recieved, There are things not writened or even spoke of God said test ye the spirit. There is no 1.000 year rule there is an eternity rule with Jesus the Christ. Dont Let the World Mustard seed decieve you, Stick to Father God in Heaven Mustard seed and you will Grow.
Ty for taking the time to ask
now you know the truth
Doug
2007-12-04 03:07:37 · answer #8 · answered by masterdk888p 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
This time will be unimaginably great! To live life with Jesus Christ ruling, without satanic temptations, without diseases and the horrors of war and cruelty. It is just going to be incredibly awesome. We all will live a very, long time since there will be no death during this time, as far as I know. Life will be about something more than survival. It will be full of creativity and artistry. I really look forward to this time. I'm in my 50's so I'm old enough to look at death and see it as possible for me. So I look forward to all that comes afterwards. Anything with Jesus is good enough for me!!!
2007-12-04 10:05:00 · answer #9 · answered by LeslieAnn 6 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Christ will rule and if you read on we will be able to enter into the gates and eat from the 12 trees of life! It will be great , no more pain or suffering and death will be no more!!!!
2007-12-04 02:31:57 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
we get raptured up to heaven with Jesus and stay there for seven years, then we return with Jesus on his side at the end of the tribulation and remain here on this earth with Jesus for 1,000 years. this is what i believe i am still studying this so i will tell you that i might not be right but i will keep looking for myself to find my answers.
2007-12-04 02:28:53 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋