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Jude quotes them.

2007-12-04 00:51:20 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Yes it's an actual quote. I saw the original in the books of Enoch. Interesting book.

2007-12-04 01:36:15 · update #1

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You folks telling me it was good enough for Jesus' brother, but not for these other folk?

Who chose these people to decide what was inspired and what wasn't?

2007-12-04 01:01:14 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

This is actually funny how this happened. The Hebrew Bible was not cannonized until after the Council of Jamnia in 90 CE. Numerous Jewish Christians were using the Book of Enoch as scriptural proof for Jesus being the messiah, so the Jewish elders chose not to include it into the canon. Later, when the Christian Bible was assembled, the Hebrew Bible was put first, a Bible that was minus the Book of Enoch. One of the early church father, Tertullian, wrote exensively about it and most early church fathers considered Enoch "Holy Scripture."

2007-12-04 08:59:52 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Many of the original texts were deleted for many reasons. Many were first hand witness accounts of what was happening at the time of Jesus' life. Enochs writings are said to be like a diary of a time of Jesus' life that is missing from the Bible, of a time where he is not mentioned of him being sent away to study in another land after the Rabbi's sent him out of the Temple. He was harrassed by much of the Jewish community for several years and to protect him they had him sent to another land where someone in his extended family raised him for a time, which was common practice of fostering a relative from the age of 13 or 15 on, and he experienced a new understanding of his religious convictions and some healing arts that were new as well. Buddhism was comparitivly new and many were studying this in the east. There are old texts in the Budhhist monastaries of an account of "possibly" Jesus (the name is described differently because of the language) coming to several monks because his ability to read and write as well as another aspect of the teaching of peace and harmony from another land. It is an account of their newly attained knowledge and the experiences of their journey and some of the speaches Jesus had given on their travels. There is supposedly an account of his return and the gathering that had followed him from this untold land and the people that came to see about him and this new teachings he was enlightened with.
Because it was more of an historical diary rather than a divine inspired revelation (needing proof of a divine deity to convert the pagans and those of other faiths because many still believed in signs and miracles "divine intervention") Many of the diary style texts were excluded because of the details that were not "magickal" and seemed boring. To rule a multitude and get people to speak and tell others the story had to be more sensationalized and a modecum of fear had to be induced. Many of the lower classes could not read or write except for the monks and those of the higher social classes - which was not a lot of people- so to tell the story it had to grab the attention and back then anyone that could read and write were considered very intelligent and they must know the truth because of it. As I understand it there are atleast 8 books that were not considered for the "Bible" and over half were considered eye witness accounts or a diary scribed version. Where are those texts now, no one truely knows the answer (general public) but they are somewhere. Hope you can get the answers you are seeking.
Blessed be and Peace

2007-12-04 10:12:29 · answer #3 · answered by Karma of the Poodle 6 · 0 0

The book has technically never been found. That doesn't mean it never existed, but it was lost. There is a current book that claims that title but evidence claims that it was wrote somewhere after 200 a.d. Obviously not by Enoch. There are references in scriptures to other books that are lost as well. Paul mentions a letter to Laodicea (Colossians 4:16) and there are hints of a third letter to the Corinthians that was sent in between the first and second letters. These of course were lost or destroyed and we are left with the books that we have today.

2007-12-04 09:06:32 · answer #4 · answered by mlcros 5 · 0 0

Because the men who canonized the bible, decided that it wasn't inspired.

Nevermind that those men were adulterers, murderers and left bodies to rot in churches as an example to anyone who would question their authority.

That doesn't seem to bother people who trust their afterlife to the books of the NT.

2007-12-04 08:56:01 · answer #5 · answered by ɹɐǝɟsuɐs Blessed Cheese Maker 7 · 3 0

Interesting. Does he actually quote from them or does he just allude to them? Also, Paul quoted from a Greek poet in Acts.
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2007-12-04 08:54:44 · answer #6 · answered by Weird Darryl 6 · 0 0

Those that were in power at the time the bible was written decided what went in and what stayed out, That which was not included in the bible was suppose to be burnt. the truth is more schocking than you know.

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2007-12-04 10:34:30 · answer #7 · answered by happy_kko 4 · 0 0

They were never accepted as inspired. There were certain criteria for acceptance and they did not meet those standards.

2007-12-04 08:55:11 · answer #8 · answered by oldguy63 7 · 0 0

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