Global Warming: Can we Scientifically PROVE that the World is NOT Flat?

Question

Can we SCIENTIFICALLY PROVE that the world is NOT Flat?

Can we SCIENTIFICALLY PROVE that airplanes fly?

Can we SCIENTIFICALLY PROVE that there is gravity?

What can we scientifically prove?

Answer 1

We can prove nothing beyond our own existence, and even that is suspect.

Answer 2

There are 2 issues really, as I see it. Global warming and whether that is a natural cycle or not. I believe it is. And then there is climate change and whether that is natural. The cycle of Global warming has a partner, Global cooling which is completely natural and cyclical, hence the cycle bit. Not one without the other. 10000 years ago we had an ice age. Followed by Global warming so that we ended up with the Great lakes around the world and Glaciers at the top of tall mountains. This is very slow but percetable over time. Climate change is natural and probably a partner of the warming cooling cycle that I have mentioned above. But it is more violent and occurs on a faster and more unpredictable pattern that natural warming and cooling. The question is are we affecting climate change? And if so by how much? And can we really do anything about it? Stragly enough a partner to increased carbon levels by man caused through the burning of fossil fuels was a phanomenom called global dimming. This was caused by particulate pollution in inefficient burning of fossil fuels. This limited the light into the atmosphere and counteracted the green house effect. Since we have become "cleaner". The level of Global Dimming has reduced and hence the green house effect has increased! Ironic don't you think? By being more responsible we may have actually killed millions of people and sentenced billions to starvation in the future! I think we know a lot less about science than we want to let on.

Answer 3

Once again Jello continues his BS about the science of climate change when he hasn't qualified mine. The science of global warming was missing the ability to see temperature and that creates the conflict for many so to accomodate Jello, here is the math and the science again, please check it and have anyone you know check it. If you aren't going to do that, stay out of the science argument, you either aren't objective or don't have the background to understand the urgency of the issues. The Environmental Working Group did studies with many many professionals related to toxicity in newborns and the toxicity ratio was 100%.

Weather is the interaction of 3 things...that's it.
1. Air pressure is the interaction between cold air(heavy) and warm air(lighter) creating winds.

2. Water vapor is the water content in the air

3.temperature.

The change of any of those 3 changes weather and the atmospheric formula.

The science was missing related to climate change because the temperature factor in the equation was calculated. There wasn't any advanced thermography used to let professionals, scientists, governments, etc. How can effective policy be put into place without the required science?

Please take a look at what the rest of the world hasn't seen yet related to the temperature factor in weather. The science is solid, is lectured at universities and being taken forward to governments so we can develop effective policy. Go to http://www.thermoguy.com/globalwarming-heatgain.html and see what the UN should be seeing in Bali.

Due to calculators and assumption, UV wasn't qualified for the fast moving wavelength it is as well as the interaction with absorbent earth surfaces including building development. The temperatures generated can be close to boiling and development is generating heat 10 minutes after sunrise.

That heat generation and contribution to lower air pressure changes weather. The fact every city, every country has the same problem means MASSIVE atmospheric dumping of heat all over the world. We think it is hot in Vegas at 120 degrees F? The individual buildings are 200 degrees. Meteorologists should say it is 200 in Vegas because of the heat generation.

The science has changed and it isn't the waving of a wand, it is the result of 28 years of research.

Answer 4

Good question.

We can prove the world is not flat simply by travelling around it and ending up back where we started.

We can prove that airplanes fly by measuring the distance between the airplane and the ground.

Gravity is a tricky one, and fairly similar to global warming. We know there is gravity because we can do experiments and measure the gravitational constant. However, we don't have any clue why there is gravity. Theoretically there is a particle that causes gravity, but we've never observed it. When I was at Berkeley they were actually discussing creating a Center for Gravitational Study or something like that because while we all know that gravity exists, we don't know how it works.

With global warming we know it exists because we've measured it with various global temperature measurement methods. We have a pretty good idea why it's happening, and thus we can project whether it will continue to happen under various possible future scenarios. It's really not that dissimilar from the gravitiational theory.

Answer 5

I accept that global warming is going on and that human activity is the present cause. However, the climate is extremely complex and so a scientific proof is very difficult to establish. All that the scientific community has been able to do is establish that human activity is certainly contributing CO2 to the atmosphere and that this is probably contributing heavily to a process that is probably going to lead to serious global warming that would have very damaging effects if not halted. They have also measured the warming that has recently taken place and it confirms their worst predictions.

The degree of probability can be measured and assessed and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change have done so and found very high degrees of probability to their predictions. The levels are 90% and above and the consequences of backing the wrong horse are so serious that it would be extremely foolish to ignore their advice.

The scientific community accepts that GW can only be analysed with probability not proof but there is no doubt that the world is round, that air-planes fly and that gravity exists. But as I said before, even though the contribution of human activity to global warming is only a probability the probability is so strong and the consequences so serious that it is foolish to ignore it.

Answer 6

Yes to all of them. This is the difference between global warming and science.

We can prove through math that the above are true.

There is no math that proves global warming is real.

Drop an object from the Empire State Building. I can tell you where that object is, how fast it's going and the rate that it is accelerating at any given time.

Pilots have been flying in flight simulators for years learning to fly the Airbus380 and the Boing787. The simulators fly like the real plane. The pilots are fully trained and fully qualified the first day those planes are rolled off the production line.

You can't tell me if it will be warmer next month, next year, or 10 years from now.

[Edit] Gravity just a theory? Please - It's a natural law. Our knowlege of gravity allows us to accurately send satellites to the outer planets. We know how gravity works even though we can't see the force that creates gravity.

Answer 7

That's a lot of questions and I'm not sure what you mean by prove scientifically.

There is a flat earth society - who claim that the round earth is a hoax, but it's farly easy to disprove that.

The curvature of the earth was accurately measured in ancient times (using well shafts and shadows) and is easily replicated if someone were so inclined.

Answer 8

There is a problem with proving the most fundamental 'truths'.

In science there is no attempt to do so. Fundamental truths are assumed.

The world being flat is a good one. In certain mathematical settings the world IS flat. A universe can consist of the surface of a sphere where there is no up or down.

Read the book "Flatland". It was written over a hundred years ago. You can read it in two hours. You'll love it.

Answer 9

Yes and no.

We can prove the earth is round (or at least mostly round) because "round" has a defined meaning. Once we define what round means we can see if the earth fits that defintion, which it does.

The Law of Gravity is a theory. An almost universally accepted theory is called a law but it is still just a predictive model of how things work. We are constantly refining this model (more accurately measuing the Gravitational constant) and have never actually found a gravity particle (graviton). Realistically no model can be ABSOLUTELY proven but the Law of Gravity (and other scientific "Laws") is as close as we can get.

Edit: The negative rating indicate that poeple don't seem to know their definitions. A Law is a universally accepted theory (but still a theory). Science is NEVER 100% sure of anything. Gravity is only about 99.99999999999999999% confirmed.

I will admit that this for all intents and purposes proven. (Much more "proven" than GW which I accept as proven, at least statistically)

Here they are from the Oxford dictionary:

Law: A theoretical principle deduced from particular facts, applicable to a defined group or class of phenomena, and expressible by a statement that a particular phenomenon always occurs if certain conditions be present

Theory: A scheme or system of ideas or statements held as an explanation or account of a group of facts or phenomena; a hypothesis that has been confirmed or established by observation or experiment, and is propounded or accepted as accounting for the known facts; a statement of what are held to be the general laws, principles or causes of something known or observed

Answer 10

Yes. Quite simply all you have to do is observe the Earth's shadow during a lunar eclipse. The shadow proves the Earth is spherical.

Answer 11

first, buy a globe
second, buy a plane and observe if planes fly just because of illusion
third, try to jump to a building. if you don't die, you have proved there is no gravity
and if you want, flush water on yourself