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and other crimes of states against people trying to justify the times their church and religion has directly killed millions. On later examination though, you always find the leaders of these countries are guided by the priesthood itself, such as Stalin who was guided by a Jesuit priest..

Also in almost every former communist country, or other form of dictatorship the priests it comes out years later were working directly with the totalitarian governments at the time, and leading their very own flock to the slaughter.

My question is when will Christians ever admit to the truth about what your religion and the papacy that has ran it for the last 2000 years has been responsible for?

2007-11-29 17:16:29 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Josef Stalin's secret advisor and alter ego was the Jesuit, Alexander Poskrebyshev, who lived with Stalin in the Kremlin.

2007-11-29 17:27:52 · update #1

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Even if they could "admit" it, they would justify it. They justify all the killing that the Bible tells of as well as any killing that was done "in the name of God." They would say that it was all part of God's plan and mere humans should not question it.

2007-11-29 17:29:34 · answer #1 · answered by Trina™ 6 · 1 1

I freely (and sadly) admit all of the horrible things done by Christians and in the "name of Christianity" (inquistions, crusades, indulgences, sex scandals, etc, etc) although it was about political power, not Christianity.

However if you are referring to Stalin or Mao, they completely kicked out the Churches. Not because they were atheist (though they were) but the Church would have been a competing solidarity power, and they killed not because they were atheists but because they ruled by "eliminating" any dissension. Hitler used Luther's ideology from personal letters and Lutheran priests assisted him for power within the state, but Hitler only followed it as far as it served his political purposes. Read Goebbel's writing on him he thought Christianity was weak and pathetic and used what served him not him seriving it. In Poland he placed millions of Catholics in concentration camps and killed 3 million for being Catholic, there was less then 1% of the clergy or religious left alive in Poland after the War (you do realize 5 million non Jews the majority of which were Catholic were killed in Hitler's camps. They are called historically the 5 million forgotten). You can read Hitler's statements that the (Catholic) Church must be broken.

Will you freely admit though that the Church and religious have also done and been responsible for many wonderful things through history, universities, schools, hospitals, orphanages, fighting to end slavery, the Polish solidarity movement, etc, etc. Long before any secular organization did. IF not when will you.

Edit:Alexander Poskrebyshev had a wife, Last time I check Jesuits have never been allowed to marry. He was never a Jesuit, that is all propaganda. Same as those that say Stalin was a Jesuit, when he actually attended the Russian Orthodox School, NOT a Catholic or Jesuit one. Why do people have to lie about these things Geesh.

Edit Benji, just for your knowledge the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops is the single largest funder of AIDS awareness campaigns and the Catholic Hosptial systems provides over 1/3 of all AIDS medication (at no cost) distributed in the world. Of course the abstinance over condem thing is stupid, but once again if your guys are concerned about people accepting the truth why do you lie about it?

2007-11-29 17:26:40 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Are you sure that these people, you have made reference to, are "Christians" in the very first place? With out a doubt, Stalin mass-murdered and I can assure that those actions are NOT consistent with the will of Jesus Christ nor His Father! Remember; "By their fruits, you will know them" ... Jesus Christ admonished His disciples. Better still; does the term, "Wolves in sheep's clothing" mean anything to you?
The key thing is to know the real ones from the false ones ... much like the parable from the Bible of the "wheat and the tares".

2007-11-29 17:28:39 · answer #3 · answered by guraqt2me 7 · 0 0

Get rich quick schemes in the capitalist business world, (buyouts, IPOs, conglomerates, acquisitions, mergers, and the stock market), do not actually work. Remaining solvent does not actually exist within false economics capitalism.

Profit existing in the capitalist business world, or millionaires existing within capitalism, is pathological deception committed by the 21 organizations spying on the population with plain clothes agents, (with covert fake names and fake backgrounds).

Actual economics is the persons paying the monthly business loan payments of companies voting at work in order to control the property they are paying for.

Capitalism is the psychology of imaginary parents, false economics, and the criminal deception of employees that are paying the bills (including the stocks and bonds, or shares) of companies.

Anti-democracy republicanism is the psychology of imaginary parents, and false government.

2007-12-01 05:28:39 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It's still going on. There's an AIDs epidemic and the Church would rather see people die than condone condoms.
They say that abstinence is the way to not get AIDS, well Abstinence does not work.

2007-11-29 17:35:56 · answer #5 · answered by Benji 6 · 0 1

If you are implying that one man is responsible for communism and the deaths that may have come from it, you are crazy.

2007-11-29 17:21:52 · answer #6 · answered by Small Victories 4 · 1 0

Don't confuse catholicism with Christianity

2007-11-29 17:39:13 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

unsure about Stalin, but Hitler was most definitely driven by religious ideals - crazy ones of course - but religious nonetheless. That's why he targeted Jews.

2007-11-29 17:19:54 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

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