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If Joseph Smith was a true prophet, why did he fail to realize that “Elias” is the N.T. form of the name “Elijah”? (D & C 110:12,13 and 1 Kings 17:1 and James 5:17) How could Elijah (Elias) have appeared to Joseph Smith in the Kirkland Temple as two different people?

2007-11-29 14:52:46 · 9 answers · asked by 2telldatruth 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Joseph lost the very valuable and expensive gold tablets. He had to be wise enough to realize the amount of food and clothing that would have provided for the poor if he had sold it and cared about the people. He lost pure gold. WOW! He messed up the Book of Mormon so badly he had to revise it 7 times or more and still had to write 2 more books to cover the goofs he had left in the Book of Mormon by then. The Pearl of Great Price was completely flawed, also. His book of covenants was a joke. Do you try to tell me this man was a prophet? A prophet that did not even think God could keep His Own word, the Bible, pure.

RICHMOND: are you saying there was Jesus, John the baptizer, Elijah and Moses on the transfiguration. That would have been 4 temples instead of the 3 Peter wanted to erect. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
Mt 17:4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”

2007-11-29 15:06:43 · answer #1 · answered by mesquiteskeetr 6 · 3 6

Actually if you really knew anything about the Bible you would know that Elias is not just a form of the name Elijah but also a title.

There are several uses of this word in the scriptures.
It is the N.T. (Greek) form of Elijah (Hebrew), as in Luke 4: 25-26, James 5: 17, and Matt. 17: 1-4. Elias in these instances can only be the ancient prophet Elijah whose ministry is recorded in 1 and 2 Kings. The curious wording of JST Mark 9: 3 does not imply that the Elias at the Transfiguration was John the Baptist, but that in addition to Elijah the prophet, John the Baptist was present.
Elias is also a title for one who is a forerunner, for example, John the Baptist, as in JST Matt. 11: 13-14, JST Matt. 17: 10-13, and JST John 1: 19-28. These passages are sufficiently clarified to show that anciently two Eliases were spoken of, one as a preparer and the other a restorer. John was sent to prepare the way for Jesus, Jesus himself being the Restorer who brought back the gospel and the Melchizedek Priesthood to the Jews in his day (see JST John 1: 20-28, in the Appendix). In this particular instance there is reflected also the comparative functions of the Aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods.
The title Elias has also been applied to many others for specific missions or restorative functions that they are to fulfill, for example, John the Revelator (D&C 77: 14); and Noah or Gabriel (D&C 27: 6-7, cf. Luke 1: 11-20).
A man called Elias apparently lived in mortality in the days of Abraham, who committed the dispensation of the gospel of Abraham to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery in the Kirtland (Ohio) Temple on April 3, 1836 (D&C 110: 12). We have no specific information as to the details of his mortal life or ministry.
Thus the word Elias has many applications and has been placed upon many persons as a title pertaining to both preparatory and restorative functions. It is evident from the questions they asked that both the Jewish leaders and the disciples of Jesus knew something about the doctrine of Elias, but the fragmentary information in our current Bibles is not sufficient to give an adequate understanding of what was involved in use of the term. Only by divine revelation to the Prophet Joseph Smith is this topic brought into focus for us who live in the last days.

2007-11-29 23:05:26 · answer #2 · answered by Richmond C 3 · 2 3

First it's Kirtland....not Kirkland

Second, it says Elias and then Elijah the prophet...


Could it possibly be that Elias in D&C is someone else or is there only one Elias in the world? And if Elias in this reference was the same person, why wouldn't Joseph have called Elias, Elias the prophet like he did with Elijah?

How can you be 100% sure that Elias in Revelations is Elijah? He is never called that in Revelation...

2007-11-29 23:04:05 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 4

All of us know that Elijah and Elias are the same person. I don't know what you are talking about. Elaborate and maybe I will be able answer your question a little better.

Actually, yes, the two following gentlemen are right: Elias is a title, as well as a name.

2007-11-29 22:58:10 · answer #4 · answered by colebolegooglygooglyhammerhead 6 · 0 5

Joe Smith did not understand the Bible...that's why he started his own cult and wrote his own books.

2007-11-29 23:34:10 · answer #5 · answered by Jalapinomex 5 · 3 3

joshep smith . was a false phrophet and was only a put on many things in the b.o.m. have been changed many times read the links below . www. falsephrophiciesbyjoshepsmith. com www. no manknowsmyhistory. com beased on fact as well

2007-11-29 23:12:36 · answer #6 · answered by the_silverfoxx 7 · 4 4

I think it is all just a bunch of lies. If they are the "true" religion and the religion is about 200 years old, what did people do before that do, go to hell?

I think it is all about money, its a cult.

2007-11-29 23:20:09 · answer #7 · answered by Mrs. Duncan 4 · 3 4

It just proves JS wasn't a true prophet of God. But, that would be a great question for the door to door missionaries. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I never realized that before.

2007-11-29 23:09:56 · answer #8 · answered by paula r 7 · 4 4

Joseph Smith had demons appearing to him, not people from the Bible.

2007-11-29 22:58:35 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 5 6

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