Is it possible to Enlighten someone against their will or is this the same as dragging a vampire into the sun-

Question

light?
Tell me.

Answer 1

Can we force a flower to blossom ?????

Answer 2

This is very funny! I love a good hypothetical. So, lets forget about "against their will" and get back to the thought......enlightening someone. Here the enlightenee may awaken of their own accord, spontaneously, however uninterested they may have been, even if they were manipulated by any subtle or not so subtle influence of the enlightener, could mean that some may achieve enlightenment this way. Better to be open to all possibilities than closed. There are stranger things happening between heaven and earth than this. Now, the "against their will" bit............who would be able to say what the will, or mind, of the enlightenee was prior to this investigation? Everyone has their own way. Perhaps this is the way for some.....who would know unless it had happened to them? And if they could tell us.....they'd already be enlightened.

Laughs aside.....I concur with Renu and Phae's answers also...it is afine line philosophically.....what and when is will?

Answer 3

I have seen that when you try, you will be labeled with a spot! An we all know what happens next!
But there are those that listen, and they sometimes can not handle the enlightenment. Therefore end up worse than before.
I myself have been called a crack head, meth head, the antichrist, and more. Just for trying to do the same. Only those which seek can find the truth.
I have begun to post some pics on a site called ( [e-mail] ) The same sort of enlightenment, but on a different more complicated way. I have over 4 thousand pics and only just begun to show what it is that will eventually prove to be true.
So in conclusion, do not try to enlighten anyone, only those that seeketh will understand, and thus do no harm to you. ( becrefull what you speak of my friend! )

Answer 4

I have heard Yogis in India say that it is possible to enlighten anyone with certain techniques. The caveat is that, for most people, this would require many strong restraints to hold the person while their body went through the torment of such fast "normalization". The greater likelihood is that this would simply be too much, and their nervous system would pop like a light bulb with too much flow going through it - dead. The other problem is that this would be an "uneducated" form of enlightenment, so to speak, because the person would have no idea how to guide others.

Answer 5

No one can enlighten anyone else to begin with. You have to realize that what enlightenment actually means is for someone to come to realize something by searching within themselves for the answer. It's like an epiphany. You can't force a deaf person to hear you, no matter how long or loudly you scream at them. The only thing someone who believes themselves to already be more enlightened than someone else can do to cause another's enlightenment is to help lead them in the same direction.

Answer 6

Because everyone else has voted no, I'm going to look at the other view. While I don't think it's desirable to do anything against anyone's will, I do think it is very possible to assist in the enlightenment process unbeknownst to the other.

An occasional well-directed question can cause one to look at their limitations under a new light and every now and then a cracks lets in new light. To reach enlightenment the mind needs to open itself to allow light to penetrate old thoughtforms and perceptions and to allow expansion. Your questions have the power to help this begin.

Answer 7

Same as a vampire into the sunlight.
It is possible to drag them but at what cost?...
Death of the vampire when exposed
Depends how deep their emotion goes.
Shows us why belief is so powerful
And the truth like the sun light more so.

Answer 8

Well, there is no way to change a person against their will - but presenting them with situations or questions that make them think can set them on a course they would not have taken otherwise. It is possible to nudge a person onto the right path sometimes and I don't think it is as destructive as tossing a vampire into the sunlight - unless what you are doing is stripping away their faith and leaving them with nothing. That never helps.

Peace!

Answer 9

What I've learned about it is that every time I've tried to enlighten somebody it's failed, no matter how clever I was or not (meaning I wasn't being clever, but rather direct).

Then I've noticed successes, and these come when I have no notion of myself, when I'm not trying to gain anything. (So in this case I don't see that I'm trying to enlighten anyone.) Enlighten for me is a step in one's growing, not a one time event.

So when these successes have happened, then I notice another thing about it, the person had an outstanding question - in essence they were seeking for an answer. If a person doesn't have an essential question, it means they are confident with their state of being, thus aren't questioning it.
Confident with one's state of being can be seen as not being open to accept new information, because to allow new information in will threaten the confidence.

So you see if one feels they have it all figured out, you can't tell them anything. It doesn't matter how clever one is, with answering or asking questions, if the door is closed, then nothing can be recieved.

But you can enlighten all people by working on the level of energy, and you do this my making an essential change in yourself. Then you start to realize where your power to make changes really lies.

Betsy

Addendum: You can put another person into an altered state of consciousness through essential touch - either physically or if you're really skilled, with words - sort of like 'shaktipat' or 'laying on of hands'. So to do this, it depends upon the state of the one giving the touch, if the giver can 'surrender their personality', then they can transmit a pure energy. The receiver being in contact with that kind of energy, won't know what hit them, and not 'knowing' how to respond to it, will lose contact with identity, thus putting one into an altered state. Basically, what you are doing with this is rising their energy momentarily, and during this 'thier healer' takes over and makes some changes to the system. Then later 'after the healing', an insight can be received changing one's consciousness in a profound way. The result in the receiving one, is then one small step on the road of enlightenment. But I also know that one can't heal another in this way completely, because part of the full healing is to become independent and sovereign and take over the process completely. In other words, one can only remove the effects of personality chiseled into the body and frozen into one's structure, by physically moving. But we can all help each other to enlighten and bring us to the point of kundalini activation: the point at which our energy has risen enough that we are able to 'start taking over'.

Answer 10

I'll drag you into the light but not to destroy you . If you're a creature of the night I'll use star and moonlight. If the bonfires and goddesses dancing doesn't enlighten you, you are truly hopeless and a figment of my nightmares because I don't believe anyone is THAT hopeless.

Answer 11

For most of us "mere mortals" no. But, there are those who stand so firmly in Truth that anyone in their presence will have their head jerked there also. These pure masters have such a wide reaching affect it is not possible to be in their presence & not be changed. I have known healers who could "sneak" a healing past a persons unwilling mind. Of course, acceptance is key & healing usually will not last if the person chooses to go back to their old mindset. CC is right, a few cleverly placed comments & questions are this mortals best resource. Blessings.