So why were there more tanks deployed at Waco than the guys?

Question

had in Somalia?....get it?,,Taco Bill Clinton had more tanks deployed at Waco than he sent to defend his troops in the 'Dish?....and people actually want to see this skell back around the White House putting in his 2 cents worth again?....

Answer 1

I never said I wanted that worm hanging around the White House..I know he murdered those folks at Waco and Ruby Ridge..him,hilldemon and that reno subhuman....you can tell from those incidents where their priorities are

Answer 2

As noted there was no tanks at Waco. The ATF wanted a publicity opportunity and got more then they asked for-it was a poorly thought out and carried out plan if the plan was to arrest David Karesh. Why more armored vehicles there then Somalia was pure and simple politics, a very bad political decision, and the military planning of the raid was flawed by being based on everything working perfetly without any problems or a rescue being necessary-that was a bad military misjudgement. You would have thought someone would have considered land rescue might be necessary and maybe contacted the Indians nearly that the U.S. might need there assistance. I am no Clinton person and not a liberal but I have the same disdain for conservatives who put out BS to prove a point and get nasty then I do the liberals who do the same. I have never voted for a Clinton and never will I am also a retired Marine and a Vietnam veteran-that said Bill Clinton is a former President, Hillary Clinton is a Seator and you should be respectful to there positions, don't have to respect them just the position. If you ask a question ask the question and don't go off into personal attacks and rants. Anyone in the military or fomer military knows that you always have to respect the rank if not the person-you posing or trying to act like military or just forgot that simple standard rule?

Answer 3

There weren't.

The number of tanks at Waco (3 or less) was unnecessary, but understandable.

US Mechanized units were withdrawn from Somalia on the order of then Defense Secretary Dick Cheney, because UN units (the Pakistanis were taking their place.

The refusal of the UN troops to provide support when the Olympic Hotel went down was pitiful.

Bill Clinton inherited the mess from Bush the elder, and you are correct BJ Clinton made very poor decisions that weakened our reputation abroad and got people killed.

However there is more than enough blame to go around for the debacle in Somalia.

I agree with your sentiment, the Clintons are political opportunists, and should be sent back to Arkansas never to return to power, however I place blame on all responsible, not just the idiot in charge.

Answer 4

There were engineering vehicles which are tracked, but there were no tanks at Waco.

No friend of the Clintons, but I do know a lot about Waco. No excuse to not get facts right.

Respectfully, Gunny, there was absolutely no need for ATF to seek publicity. Their appropriations had increased each year for 4 years prior to that and there was no reason to think 1993 was going to be different.

Answer 5

The BATF, devoted to depriving the American People of firearms, had a budget review coming up. To prove that they needed a lot of firepower to battle those awful 'militia' types, they concocted a shootout with the folks at the Waco compound (instead of just arresting the leader for alleged crimes). The BATF then contacted the DEA (which has tanks for combating well armed drug smugglers) and lied, saying the Waco compound is a well armed drug manufacturing facility. They got a loan of some tanks from the DEA, hoping for an excuse to put them to use.

After the ATF started an initial firefight, the folks inside the compound simply holed up and demanded to be left alone. This was not going according to plan. The ATF needed a real shootout to justify their demands to Congress that they also get tanks, so, with Janet Reno's orders, they sent in the tanks and gunmen to force a final confrontation. It was a massacre. They pumped flammable CS gas into a building using open-flame lanterns for light, since the electricity had been turned off. The results were predictable. They drove a tank over an underground shelter filled with women and children, crushing them.

Clinton's skank wife is as hard-core a Communist as he was and she has similar disregard for the lives of the 'little people'. I wonder what massacres she will cook up in the leftist crusade against armed Citizens.

Answer 6

Those armoured vehicles were not tanks, they were M278 armoured engineering vehicles based on the M60 tank.

I don't know if tanks would have been a good idea in the streets of Mogadishu, but I wish that they had not refused to allow AC-130 gunships to participate in the mission. The gunships would have covered the troops, particularly the Blackhawk (piloted by Michael Durant) that was shot down. With gunship support, Gordon and Shughart would not have had to fight alone to protect Durant; both men gave their lives in the effort.

Answer 7

Hooah Gunny

Answer 8

If you've ever watched "Blackhawk Down", you'd get to see the peril this Army loathing lib sent those troops into without any armor.

No, I don't want any more Clintons to tarnish the Whitehouse.

The kids in cults don't need to be burned alive, and the Cuban refugee children don't need M-16's in their faces as we ship em' back to Cuba.

Answer 9

leaving your troops without basic support and then murdering your own citizens is better than someone who salts an oilwell?...man,there are some really screwed up people voting in this election,arent there?...no,I want Taco Bill and his get away from Washington all together.....both of them are just too slimy..and compared to No Tanks,an "armored engineering vehicle" is a tank...the asker never said there were Abrams out there......