What is the Muslim claim to Jerusalem?

Question

The Jewish claim: 4,000 years: Abraham was about to sacrifice Isaac on Mount Moriah, where the Jewish Temple is today. (By the way, the Muslims changed the story and said that Ishmael was being sacrificed then blamed us for changing our own history, or some other nonsense like that).
Archaelogical fact: 1100 BC, 3,100 years ago, David re-conquers Jerusalem for the Jewish people and makes Jerusalem his capital City. His son Solomon completes the Jewish Temple on the Temple Mount, and transforms Jerusalem from the tiny town it was, to the citadel it is today.

Muslim claim: Muhammad had an out of body experience and went to Jerusalem on a winged horse that had a woman's face. Wow. Was he trippin' on a narghilah or what? He never left Saudi Arabia, c'mon.

Jewish claim: Jerusalem described and mentioned in detail thousands of times in the Torah and over 600 times in daily prayer.

Muslim claim: Never mentioned in Quran. Loosely referred to 1 time as the "farthest place."

So what is the Muslim claim to Jerusalem? Well they saw it was a cool City, and decided, "Hey we all live in little goatskin tents in the Saudi Arabian desert, let's grab ourselves somone's City and country and make it our own."
So they came to Jerusalem in 630'ish CE, fully 2,630 years after the Jews arrived there and fully 1,630 years after the Jews made it their capital City. They massacre the Jewish and Christian inhabitants, burning the synagogues and churches, and begin construction their mosque built on the ruins of two Jewish Temples that are thousands of years older.

Answer 1

They have no claim on it. You're absolutely correct and, as usual, I agree.

Answer 2

I am interested in obtaining a sample of DNA from Muhammad's camel so I can start breading them for the Melbourne Cup.

It was really Thutmose's 111 who conquered the hole of the Golden Triangle 500 years before the Bible suggest it when the Bible reads that king David conquered and placed the Stele at the Euphrates as this is a proven fact from the finding of such Stele edentifying Thutmoses instead of David.

Also the evidence is recorded in Egypt and correspondence between the Governor of Jerusalem and the Pharaoh in Egypt.

Jerusalem dates back to the Stone Age as a trading route 3,000 years BCA. The word Zion derives from Zi land of drought Hebrew and the On is the biblical name of the ancient Egyptian Holy City known as Heliopolis.

The diplomatic usage at the time as mat Urusalim (Jerusalem) which was under the control of the Egyptians until the Sea People (Philistines) invaded the lands far and wide.

Tuthmosis 111 stayed there while besieging Megiddo from his annals of war. he took with him the Ark of Amun-Ra and kept it there at Mount Moriah which was the threshing floor for his daily prayers.

Mosses who was the Egyptian priest and direct line to the throne of Pharaoh and who's name was Akhenaten who placed the 10 Commandments into the other Ark which I will save for another day.

You can write several books and there has been hundreds of books outside the main stream religion sources that should be looked at as there was a lot of plagiarism going on in those days Just like today it goes on and on.

Answer 3

Nowhere in the Koran does it say that Mohammed went to *Jerusalem* either in person or in a dream. (As others have stated, the Koran never mentions Jerusalem at all.) The Koran says Mohammed went "from the Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque," as ardent notes, to "masjid al-aqsa." Of course the mosque did not exist in Mohammed's time, so the "night journey" could not have been to the mosque in Jerusalem. It might have been from the mosque in Mecca to the one in Medina, but who knows.

The al-aqsa mosque was built circa 710 CE by Umayyad caliphs, and was named by them in reference to the Koran, not the other way around. Only later, in the hadiths, is an explicit association claimed between the night journey and the mosque in Jerusalem.

Jerusalem has been so "important" to Muslims that despite being the "third holiest city" it has never been the capital of any Muslim nation or empire. Despite Daman's claim, "tolerance" of Judaism under Islam was extremely volatile. At best, Islam was "tolerant" by 15th century standards, never by those of today. Under Islamic law, Jews and Christians must accept second class "dhimmi" status, subject to heavy taxes and humiliation, otherwise risk being killed. During the bad times, the equivalent of European pogroms occurred.

Islamic "tolerance" for Judaism while under Jordanian occupation meant that the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism (and site of the al aqsa mosque) was forbidden, and the Western Wall was inaccessible: the Arabs built homes in the area in front of the wall. Not exactly respectful of other traditions.

Today, under Israeli control, ALL religions are free to worship in Jerusalem-- as long as their worship is nonviolent. (This is sometimes a problem for Muslim males, who seethe and throw stones after listening to "inciteful" speeches by clergy at Friday prayer).

Answer 4

Very well put!!!
It would be interesting to compare how many times Jerusalem is mentioned in the TANAKH (Jewish Bible) and how many times Jerusalem is mentioned in the Quran.
According to an article I read, Muhammad used to pray in the direction of Jerusalem. When he realized Jews were not converting to his new religion, he decided to pray towards Mecca, which was a conveniently profitable place from which he could base his operation...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/06/muhammad_and_the_jews_why_the.html

Answer 5

Muslims strongly believe that Mohammad made his way to Jerusalem in a night vision. Jerusalem remians the nr.3 holiest city after Macca and Medina.

Answer 6

First of all, he did go to Jerusalem in one night. The Arabs of the time didn't believe it either, but there were several proofs that someone of your caliber couldn't possible being to understand.
Second of all, it is also mentioned in the Quraan, Chapter 17 Verse 1. Of course, someone of your caliber obvious didn't read the Arabic which clearly states "Masjidul-Aqsa" the third holiest mosque in the Islamic traditions.
Talk about a broken logic. Saladin conquered Jerusalem, so technically, your logic no longer holds any water.

Answer 7

They have no claim what so ever other than living in Jarusalem inside Israel. They all pray facing East towards Mecca with their back sides (butts) facing Jerusalem . Is that what they think of Jerusalem?

Answer 8

lk the city is not for muslims nor jewish ppl its just basicaly for the stronger and who ever has better miltary should take it thats the way it was and thats the way it is now.

Answer 9

Jerusalem was the first qiblah of the muslims 1450 years ago. And just to let you know the muslims defated the roman empire (not sure about it)which controled that part at that time they used to enforce heavy taxes,etc.but when the muslims came they showed the people mercy they let them have religious freedom and made them pay a tax for muslim protection.and must of the religious people thier converted tto Islam.Now jews come 4000 years later and cause a blood shed.And the prohet mentioned that you guys are gonna have control over half of egypt and all of al sham.And a guy named Mahdy will appear.

Answer 10

*shrug* land is land...whoever can take it, wins. Ive held this view for quite a while. I dont really care if Jews had the land thousands of years ago - they took it by force...just like most other lands were...so it's theirs....ppl always have to win their land back. So i think israel in general should just say that it's theirs cuz their army is stronger than the palestinian ppl, instead of saying they have a right to it through the torah etc.
i hate the whole israel and jerusalem business. I went there this summer and it has a bad feel to it. I would like it if all 3 religions, which all have history in the city, could just live there together instead of bickering, then the world would be better.

Answer 11

They have a claim due to the fact many Muslims live in Jerusalem and have for some time.

What is insulting is that they claim to have a theological claim to the temple mount.

Excuse me, but the only reason why you have any reverence for the site is because it is holly for us.

Mohammad prayed toward the temple mount long before any "midnight ride." And why did he do so, because that is what we do.

How would you feel if hundreds of years ago some conquers came though Mecca and destroyed the great mosque, and then a second group came and built a site on top of it.

Then finally after hundreds of years you gain control of Mecca. Would you not want to restore what you had lost?