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2007-11-29 07:24:43 · 13 answers · asked by James O 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

How quick some are to label me with a "dirty worldly lifestyle" even though he knows me not

2007-11-29 12:03:13 · update #1

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Hey James,

I think you are turning this around because our church is so often called the infamous Whore of Bablyon. I see what you are getting at.

I pulled this from EWTN's site in case anyone is interested:

"How does this relate to the Antichrist? The future Antichrist will be a world-wide power, essentially pagan, which will persecute the Catholic Church (and orthodox Christians in general) everywhere, as the Babylonians persecuted the Jews and 1st century Rome the Church. These are biblical types! The Babylon of John's day, Rome, stands for the kingdom of the future Antichrist and is no more likely to be situated in Italy than Rome needed to be situated in Babylonia (modern Iraq). John was informing his readers of these prophetic types by drawing their attention to the contemporary fulfillment they found in pagan Rome. The Antichrist will come out of the Christian world (Greco-Roman civilization) to be sure (1 John 2:19), but America is as much an inheritor of that civilization as Europe and just as likely to be the source of the Antichrist.

Finally, after distorting the text and history to read what they want into the Bible, and thereby obtaining God's "blessing" on their hatred of the Catholic Church, some "Christians" ignore the only texts of Scripture which tells us about the religious leanings of the Antichrist. The Catholic faith being a religion you would think they would see what it teaches on the only criteria the Bible actually gives about the Antichrist. In St. John's letters (1 John 4, 2 John 1), he tells us that the spirit of the Antichrist denies the Incarnation (the Son of God becoming man) and thereby also the Trinity (the Father and the Spirit, too). This is the spirit of the Antichrist. There is not a single text in 2000 years, including the new Catechism of the Catholic Church, where the Catholic Church, her popes, her bishops, her official teachings, her saints, or her acknowledged ecclesiastical authors, deny the Word-made-flesh or the Blessed Trinity. Instead, all of Christianity owes the preservation of these Truths to the Catholic Church, whose great Councils formulated them and whose saints and popes have defended them to this day, often at the cost of martyrdom. The present pope, John Paul II, has written three great encyclical (circular) letters on the Trinity, one for each Divine Person, and he has without a doubt preached Jesus Christ to more people than any other person in human history. The Catholic Church does not have the spirit of the Antichrist but of God, since no one without the Spirit can say "Jesus is Lord" (1 Cor. 12:3), something the Church and Catholics always have done and continue to do!"

2007-11-29 09:05:22 · answer #1 · answered by Spiffs C.O. 4 · 0 0

I would ask any one of those who answered here to point out the specific passage in scripture that positively identifies the "Whore of Babylon" ... as anyone or anything.

Such people claim to eschew tradition, yet they demonstrate a suprising affinity for their very own false traditions, as shown by their statements here.

As for some specific non-biblical evidence, easily able to be found existing in the world today:

The European Union Headquarters in Brussels, Belgium has out front of it, a rather prominent sculpture of the "Woman Riding the Beast" who is the pagan goddess Europa, for which Europe is named.

Meanwhile, the Southern EU Parliament Building in Strasbourg, France is an exact reproduction of the Tower of Babel ... from which Babylon got its' name.

For anyone to insinuate that the Catholic Church ... the only church that Jesus ever founded, authorized, empowered, and eternally guaranteed, for the purpose of our salvation ... could become a "whore" of anything ... seems to indicate a glaring and rather curious lack of faith in Christ ... and a level of biblical illiteracy and confusion that explains much about their personal beliefs and practices.

This, and the fact that virtually ALL protestant groups have thoroughly European origins ... and that protestants almost universally celebrate a form of communion which refuses to acknowledge Christ's authentic purpose and intent for the sacrament ... would also make them, and many of their like minded members, prime candidates for the title ... complete with a "cup of abominations" of their very own design.

2007-11-29 08:12:19 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

No. The whore of Babylon referenced in Revelation is Rome. The whore--Rome--is described as being "drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus" (Rev. 17:5-6).

The Roman Catholic commentary of the Jerusalem Bible, the evangelical Protestant commentary of the New International Version Study Bible . . . and the liberal Protestant commentary of the Oxford Annotated Study Bible all concur that "Babylon is the symbolic name for Rome" and that (1st century) "Rome" is the "type of place where evil is supreme." (Jerusalem Bible, commentary to Rev. 17)

Elsewhere in the New Testament, in 1 Peter 5:13, "Babylon" is possibly used to refer to Rome. This is bolstered by the remark in Rev. 17:9 that she sits on "seven mountains"(the King James Version Bible-the New International Version Bible uses the words "seven hills"), which could be the seven hills of Rome. "Rome" would therefore be the 'new Babylon' and all of the symbolism characterizing Babylon as a wanton "whore", would be transferable to Rome, according to this view.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_Babylon

However, the Protestants who confuse the victims of the whore of Babylon with the city that martyred the early catholic-orthodox Christians demonstrate their near-total inability to interpret the Bible.

Probably their biblical education used Chick comic books.

Cheers,
Bruce

2007-11-29 07:45:09 · answer #3 · answered by Bruce 7 · 3 1

No, the whore of Babylon is characterized as a one world religious system that follows the dictates of man, not Christ, that has amassed great wealth,and having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof.

That pretty much describes the agenda of the Roman Catholic Church.

2007-11-29 08:01:08 · answer #4 · answered by Not perfect, just forgiven 5 · 1 3

I think it's quite more than possible. They are the false teachers and prophets spoken of.

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

2 Pet 2:1 [NIV] But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2 Pet 2:2 [NIV] Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
2 Pet 2:3 [NIV] In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2 Tim 4:2 [NIV] Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
2 Tim 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

2007-11-29 07:51:09 · answer #5 · answered by SpiritRoaming 7 · 2 1

I think it is possible. They often use the words of Christ to spread hatred which is clearly turning the Gospel message of Love and Salvation completely upside down. They also tend to say things that make many folks hate to even hear the name of Christ and it is difficult to see what is evangelical about that.

2007-11-29 07:36:18 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

The Babylon in Rev?
maybe.

2007-11-29 07:27:48 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 5

Catholicism is pagan in origin, and fully Babylonian in practice and tradition. You're in the whore of Babylon if you're catholic.

2007-11-29 07:27:36 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 3 7

fundamentalist protestants are the ones that speak out about your filthy worldly life style. so i doubt it.

2007-11-29 07:28:42 · answer #9 · answered by mg© - anti VT™ MG AM© Fundi4Life 6 · 3 6

Most of them are too prude for that.

2007-11-29 07:27:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 4

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