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Then he would know those who would choose sin, and therefore freewill would just be an illusion.
Dont give me the "He wants us to choose on our own" argument, because it could not be true.
He would KNOW what we would choose. Therefore God must create evil

2007-11-29 06:21:13 · 16 answers · asked by AwesomeJoeKnows 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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First of all, I would like to say, I applaud your desire to Analise.

I f in fact I did not have freewill I could not 'Choose' to follow God. Further I could not 'Choose' to not follow God.
The Fact that God knows what I will 'Choose' does not impinge upon what I 'Choose'.

Yes, there are consequences to that which I choose, and those consequences may play a role in what it is that I do choose....... However I am not forced to choose, I am given options, and I must live with my choice's.
However.
God has in fact given me an escape from the choice's I make. He is Called the Lamb of God and has paid the price not only for my Bad choice's but also for the Bad choice's of all who have sinned.
And we all know 'All have sinned and come short of the glory of God".

P.S. I hope you appreciate the fact that I choose to help you understand this, because I could have choose not to help.
And I really do not care about the points.
jojokeeper.

2007-11-29 07:26:20 · answer #1 · answered by jojo 6 · 0 0

You're thinking (pardon the pun) in the box.

The reason God knows what we will do before we do it is not because he can read the future, like a psychic, but because he exists outside of the dimension we call time, and sees it differently than we do.

For example, a purely 2 dimensional creature would not be able to see depth. He might be able to conceptualize it, define it, or even model it, but he wouldn't be able to see it. In the same way, we can conceptualize, define and model time in different directions (tell time travel stories) but we can only see (experience) time in one direction. God, on the other hand, sees all of time in the same way we see depth. Your conclusion is drawn from flawed observations. He does want us to choose on our own, and we do have the choice. (If I'm wrong here, we should let all convicted criminals out of jail, because it's not their fault.) And yet, he does already (from his point of view, not ours) know what we're going to choose.
I know this is a simplistic description, but without writing a dissertation, it's the best I can do. For a better description, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime . Pay special attention to the part about time NOT being a constant. That might help.

2007-11-29 14:37:16 · answer #2 · answered by King James 5 · 0 1

God created Lucifer. Lucifer committed the sin of pride -- he thought he was equal to God. Lucifer was cast down and along with his followers led man astray by deceiving Eve...he told Eve she surely would not die when Eve had no idea what death was. Thus, Eve exercised free-will. Seeing their error, Adam and Eve were ashamed and hid themselves from God. Because God loved them, He did not kill them immediately and established ways to attone for our sins. However, no sacrifice could make up for our sin unless it was "the perfect sacrifice"...that is, for a perfect person to be sacrificed. God provided this sacrifice by giving us the gift of His Son. We have the opportunity to accept this or deny it. We are told many will call "Lord, Lord..." and He will say He did not know them. So, yes. God knows. And He knows if we are for real or not. Lastly, God has a righteous anger that deserves to be justified in the end. So, for all those people that like to play with God and haven't yet had a God spanking, count on God having His Way.

2007-11-29 14:35:20 · answer #3 · answered by RT 66 6 · 0 1

We create evil, not God. We do what we want. God makes us do nothing while we live here. God is capable of knowing what we will do and at the same time, He does not make us do anything. Like a parent with a child, so many times we "know" what the child is about to do in our own mind. Do we make it act that way? Of course not. We are in no way controlling it. So it is with God. God can see and does not force us to keep going in error. If we try to follow Him He sees that.

2007-11-29 14:30:12 · answer #4 · answered by mesquiteskeetr 6 · 1 1

Just by the wording of you question I can see that you are in NO WAY interested in knowing the truth. You're looking for lame excuses to live your life free form any responsibility of what harm and pain you cause to people.

2007-11-29 14:28:52 · answer #5 · answered by Linda J 7 · 1 0

Actually the fact that he knows you are evil isn't really a problem, unless he is also all powerful, in which case he is responsible for every action. Just knowing about something doesn't make him responsible unless he can do something about it.

So god is either impotent or responsible.

2007-11-29 14:29:21 · answer #6 · answered by J K 3 · 0 1

God being omnipotent does not negate free will unless he specifically interacts to alter a life. It is like asking a child if they would rather go the McDonald's or go home and have liver for dinner. I know what he is going to choose but he still makes the decision.

2007-11-29 14:27:10 · answer #7 · answered by Libby anne 2 · 1 2

free will = suffering = love

we have free will, so we can do evil, but then there are opportunities to show love.

God sees our future but does not dictate it.

you have a choice right up until youve made it...

God created us, we create evil, saying God created evil is like saying Einsteins mom thought up the theory of relativity...

2007-11-29 14:29:18 · answer #8 · answered by 2009 time to shine 4 · 0 1

God didn't create evil. He created the definition of evil.

Evil is Sin and Sin is disobeying God's word. Therefore, when God made commandments he defined evil.

2007-11-29 14:25:05 · answer #9 · answered by Mickey P 4 · 2 3

sure he knows what we will do, but in a sense he has created "forks" in the road wih 2 directions we can go, at that point he does leave it to use to choose which path. He knows the answer behind every door but wont prevent us from getting hit in the *** when that door swings.

2007-11-29 14:27:08 · answer #10 · answered by Annie A 2 · 0 2

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