What Is the ultimate basis of your belief? or non-belief?

Question

My basis of non-belief is as simple as this...

santa claus uses "magic" to reach all the boys and girls in one night.

Peter pan uses "magic" pixie dust to fly back and forth to neverland(somewhere in space)..

superman uses "superpowers" (equal to magic) to fly, and lift hundreds of tons...

Yoda uses "the force" (also equal to magic) to levetate objects with his mind(telekenesis)

and all of these things are "fiction"

God uses "miracles" to do great things(also equal to magic)

does anyone else see the obvious place the being noted above belongs?

Irish gal, obviously can't answer the question asked, just reply to my answer...

the actual question is in bold, at the top of the page...

James, you answered the question...

intuition and conjecture are your ultimate basis for belief, thank you...

terras, good observation

david G, you could have sufficed it to say: the bible...

libby, percieved order? understood

Answer 1

I appreciate the fact that you do not believe in magic; I do. There are plenty of people who don't believe in love because they have never "felt" it. That doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

The ultimate basis for my belief is the serenity I feel when I meditate, focus and do my prayers/ceremonies. When I went without, it just felt that something was out of wack with my emotions.

Hope that actually makes sense, I tried to make it less confusing.

Answer 2

The answer, at least for me, is in the sky. Jesus is just one of many personifications of the Sun and the 12 diciples are the 12 constellations of the zodiac.

The "Star in the East" is the Dog star we know as Sirius, and the "Three kings" are the stars of Orions belt which line up with sirius on the 25th of Dec. the line created by these four stars point to the point where the sun rises which is in the vincinity of the "Crux" or Cross constellation.

This is a story that has been told time and time again through out the history of the human race, theres no reason for me to beleive that the newest version is any more true than the ones that came long before it.

Answer 3

I first realized how awesome God is when I connected Matthew 27:46 to Psalms 22 -

And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 27:46

Psalms 22, which was written about a thousand years before the fact, starts out like the above verse. 22 goes on to describe the Crucifixion in detail, even the Romans casting lots for Christ's garments.

So, instead of having a weak moment, as some have suggested, Jesus was actually teaching right from the cross. He was pointing to Psalms 22, saying that prophecy's been fulfilled.

Man could not make all those events fall into place ... just exactly as stated in Psalms 22. Still not convinced, read Psalms 23, the Resurrection Psalms.

How awesome is that?

Answer 4

I feel G-d all around me. In the stars, moon, sun, clouds, sky, trees, ground, rain, snow. Everything possible on Earth. When people are are on their death bed suddenly get better. I saw on the news a soldier who got stabbed in the head with a knife, and he was speaking while they were taking it out of him and he didn't die. That's truly a miracle. I don't feel it was merely a coincidence.
I've always faltered with my faith through my life onto whether G-d is real or not. I've always thought it unfair how my life was and always blamed him for my problems. If most people take a look back on their lives and see how they could have made their lives so much better, then maybe their wouldn't be a need to blame G-d for everything terrible that happens.
I know G-d is listening to me, even though I refuse to hear. I know that he can't control what I do or what others do, and that I'm so thankful that I have my own life and choices. I don't have proof of His existence only my own personal conviction that He is in my life and loves me.

Answer 5

Core answer: the Bible.

I find your examples indicative of just the oposite of your conclusion -- that all of these fictions are imitations of God and reflect the spiritual need in (most) people for something beyond the 'natural'. Interestingly enough, one of the premises of evolution is that the environment provides the needs of the creatures inhabiting it. The fact that a need is in evidence points to the existence of the thing that satisfies that need.

You might want to post this question in the Philosophy section too.

Answer 6

I always look at this way:

I look at a circle of stones (very old and similar to Stonehenge) and look at it and I say I think something created this because it is perfect and can not be explained only by natural causes. It is a belief I have and a feeling I get when I am in nature. I have no proof nor do I feel the need to make others feel the same way.

Answer 7

Your first question, "What Is the ultimate basis of your belief? or non-belief?"

was changed to a completely different question with your final line, "does anyone else see the obvious place the being noted above belongs?"

So... which question are you really asking? Because I was looking forward to answering the first question. But I'm not interested in the last one.

Answer 8

My basis for non-belief:
nowhere do I see anything to show me why an individual would create anything for no reason. And, I see nowhere in nature (which can be seen and experienced) are males the main gender associated with life.
(No offense. I know females can't 'carry on' life on their own (which is why my first poiint is an individual) but the feminine is a requirement for life but treated as an un-vital resource in that old error ridden book of lies and mistranslations.

Answer 9

my non-belief in The Bible is qualified and stems from scripture.

I qualify that The Bible exists and that it a fairly accurate testament of belief and of things that, historically, could have happened. That does not mean that I accept the miracles or the doctrine, only the most basic history.

One of the most prominant issues for me that disolves my belief like cotton candy on the tongue is James 1:5-8

"5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. "

I find that this passage is like what I call "Mary Ann's Law" (given to me by my old friend Russ in Calif). This law states that "If you have perfect faith that you will find the best parking place when you go to park your car that you *will* find it - but if you faith waivers at all, you will not be given that place."

What James is saying is that if you ask God, he *will* give you the answer, unless your faith waivers. Since none of us are perfect, our faith must waiver. If we can ask of God and our faith doesn't waiver, then all those people who diligently and sincerely prayed to God for truth would have all found Christianity.

I *know*, because I've spoken with them, that many people from many faiths have sincerely asked God for truth. They strongly profess and testify that they were given the answer by God, then go on to say that all those others that I'd spoken with were misled and must have "waivered".

Sorry - can't have it both ways. This one is a deal breaker for me.

Answer 10

Good question. I have no idea what the ultimate basis is for my belief in God and Christianity. I just know undoubtedly that He's there.

There is a word that defines my above description: Faith.